Wests Tigers v Manly *LIVE SPOILERS

@depressed said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425950) said:
@lauren said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425143) said:
@thedaboss said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424743) said:
@hodgo said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424733) said:
This is the worry about pauga he struggled last week defensively and he stuffed up again there

Just saying

His inside men didnt help him much there

Aint his fault

Both he and Laurie are having to do a lot of cover work in defence, so not sure whar the issue is.

Thought we failed with our opportunity in controlling momentum when Talau lost the ball. Felt it was silly to keep going right during those 3 sets and we'd simply kept showing our hand too early.

I don’t know why we don’t just go up the guts with a rampaging uto ! Or angled runs back against the grain… just to much side to bloody side.
Brain-dead...

@depressed said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425950) said:
@lauren said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425143) said:
@thedaboss said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424743) said:
@hodgo said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424733) said:
This is the worry about pauga he struggled last week defensively and he stuffed up again there

Just saying

His inside men didnt help him much there

Aint his fault

Both he and Laurie are having to do a lot of cover work in defence, so not sure whar the issue is.

Thought we failed with our opportunity in controlling momentum when Talau lost the ball. Felt it was silly to keep going right during those 3 sets and we'd simply kept showing our hand too early.

I don’t know why we don’t just go up the guts with a rampaging uto ! Or angled runs back against the grain… just to much side to bloody side.

Brain dead...
 
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders. Our so called no idea to identify talent recruitment team must get these positions filled with some w

Correct 100%,
 
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders.


I'm sure they see it, the issue is lack of depth - we simply don't have two class centres or back rowers to substitute.

If today's game demonstrates anything, it's you can't throw in a couple of young guys from reserve grade and expect them to perform like first graders. Next week will be worse due to the injuries to Garner and Seyfarth. Hopefully Twal is fit.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426019) said:
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders.


I'm sure they see it, the issue is lack of depth - we simply don't have two class centres or back rowers to substitute.

If today's game demonstrates anything, it's you can't throw in a couple of young guys from reserve grade and expect them to perform like first graders. Next week will be worse due to the injuries to Garner and Seyfarth. Hopefully Twal is fit.

We’ve signed duds in those positions on probably half a million dollars per year. Management signed off on them. Time for new management.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426025) said:
@voice_of_reason said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426019) said:
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders.


I'm sure they see it, the issue is lack of depth - we simply don't have two class centres or back rowers to substitute.

If today's game demonstrates anything, it's you can't throw in a couple of young guys from reserve grade and expect them to perform like first graders. Next week will be worse due to the injuries to Garner and Seyfarth. Hopefully Twal is fit.

We’ve signed duds in those positions on probably half a million dollars per year. Management signed off on them. Time for new management.

Time for something??
 
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425930) said:
Gotta say I wasn't sitting there feeling like they didn't care and weren't trying like some other games - they had a go, they just simply weren't good enough, especially in defence of course.

Agree.
I actually thought we played pretty well.

2 big moments

Moment 1
34min - we are up 12-10.
We have 3rd ser on their line. TT drops it off the scrum.
Manly score next set and again 2mins later. To go 12-20 at half time.
If we we have of iced that opportunity on their line we could of went in at half time 18-10 instead.

Moment 2
18mins to go 2nd half.
32-18.
Laurie works his magic. TT throws it slightly forward, nofa was in untouched.
Could of been 32-24 with 16 mins of play.

We land either of these of these moments and its a very different game.

Ps not picking on TT. But we are a young side and need to learn how to take these moments.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426019) said:
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders.


I'm sure they see it, the issue is lack of depth - we simply don't have two class centres or back rowers to substitute.

If today's game demonstrates anything, it's you can't throw in a couple of young guys from reserve grade and expect them to perform like first graders. Next week will be worse due to the injuries to Garner and Seyfarth. Hopefully Twal is fit.

And yet the forum members who seem to know better than Madge and co ,scream to let the koe cup guys get a run in the top side...tonight is a perfect example of what happens when you rely on the inexperienced to win you games...Cini was another fine example of let the ressies have a run...
 
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425553) said:
@getagrip said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425539) said:
@cktiger said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425513) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425448) said:
Brooks and Liddle have played well

Are you being sarcastic?

You are watching another game

Brooks brushed him at a fan day

It’s the only player he ever blames on a loss

I specifically said I didn't blame him for the loss ... but he was nothing special.
As for brushing me at a fan day?
I'm a grownup - don't go.
 
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders. Our so called no idea to identify talent recruitment team must get these positions filled with some w

They're playing on their phones.
 
@demps said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426039) said:
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders. Our so called no idea to identify talent recruitment team must get these positions filled with some w

They're playing on their phones.

What are you saying to be clear??
 
@hsvjones said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425969) said:
So 19 missed tackles between the 2 centres ... That has to be a record I would think

They were both pitiful, can’t believe we didn’t want to do the swap Jac for TT. Honestly think he gets a jersey courtesy of his last name. As for Pauga time to send him back to where he came from 14 missed tackles that’s atrocious.
 
@frullens said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426030) said:
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425930) said:
Gotta say I wasn't sitting there feeling like they didn't care and weren't trying like some other games - they had a go, they just simply weren't good enough, especially in defence of course.

Agree.
I actually thought we played pretty well.

2 big moments

Moment 1
34min - we are up 12-10.
We have 3rd ser on their line. TT drops it off the scrum.
Manly score next set and again 2mins later. To go 12-20 at half time.
If we we have of iced that opportunity on their line we could of went in at half time 18-10 instead.

Moment 2
18mins to go 2nd half.
32-18.
Laurie works his magic. TT throws it slightly forward, nofa was in untouched.
Could of been 32-24 with 16 mins of play.

We land either of these of these moments and its a very different game.

Ps not picking on TT. But we are a young side and need to learn how to take these moments.

Add moment 3 the first short kick off when they went back to back
 
@coastie_tiger said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426046) said:
@frullens said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426030) said:
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425930) said:
Gotta say I wasn't sitting there feeling like they didn't care and weren't trying like some other games - they had a go, they just simply weren't good enough, especially in defence of course.

Agree.
I actually thought we played pretty well.

2 big moments

Moment 1
34min - we are up 12-10.
We have 3rd ser on their line. TT drops it off the scrum.
Manly score next set and again 2mins later. To go 12-20 at half time.
If we we have of iced that opportunity on their line we could of went in at half time 18-10 instead.

Moment 2
18mins to go 2nd half.
32-18.
Laurie works his magic. TT throws it slightly forward, nofa was in untouched.
Could of been 32-24 with 16 mins of play.

We land either of these of these moments and its a very different game.

Ps not picking on TT. But we are a young side and need to learn how to take these moments.

Add moment 3 the first short kick off when they went back to back

Yeah we didn't need to go short so early.
Although I am a fan as its actually a 50-50 play.
Just not when kicking it to 6 foot 20 Saab.
 
@851 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425754) said:
@snake said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425646) said:
@starswithstripes said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425632) said:
So many times we ran in circles, backwards, sideways with no structure. Execution was poor and predictable. I don’t get it when we say we are training really well but we can’t reproduce that on game day. It’s like we train at first grade level and play at reggies level.

It’s a very badly coached side no form or function .. the club needs to move or next season will be a bigger disaster.

It is blatantly obvious to all but the Madge fans, he said we had a side capable of making the 8 when he arrived. He said he would fix the defence, he has failed big time, lets stop wasting more seasons and punt him now

He didn't saw how long it would take him to fix it.
 
@bradexl said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426041) said:
@demps said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426039) said:
@jag said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426010) said:
How come all the forum supporters can see the team issues yet management don’t.
Tonight we fielded the worst centre pairing in the competition just an embarrassment with a record missed tackles plus errors galore as usual every game by TT. Our back row are poor defenders. Our so called no idea to identify talent recruitment team must get these positions filled with some w

They're playing on their phones.

What are you saying to be clear??

Lol, just how on the doco...
That assistant was playing on his phone in the coaches box.
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424975) said:
awful defence by L Lailua, abut after unforced error by Talau

Disagree - Alphabet's fault there - should have kept sliding instead of peeling off and running back. He was the one that opened the gap in the line.
 
@jd-tiger said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1424985) said:
Our inside man on that line break, number 8, put a hit on a Manly player after he passed the ball, that's where the space came from back on the inside.

I'm all for the hits, make em count totally, but need to keep the line intact.

Glad someone else saw that instead of blaming Lucy jd.
 
@razor7 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425054) said:
Hoffman’s defence is far better than both Paula and Talau. Can’t figure what he hasn’t hasn’t had a shot

I said this exact same thing and got Absolute ridiculed by Demps and JC. But they know better so all good
 
@denehal1983 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426097) said:
@razor7 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425054) said:
Hoffman’s defence is far better than both Paula and Talau. Can’t figure what he hasn’t hasn’t had a shot

I said this exact same thing and got Absolute ridiculed by Demps and JC. But they know better so all good

Whatttt?

Just fact checked and could only see statements were made regarding Hoffman being not that good....

Wouldn't say you have been ridiculed at all mate.
 
@demps said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426098) said:
@denehal1983 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1426097) said:
@razor7 said in [Wests Tigers v Manly \*LIVE SPOILERS](/post/1425054) said:
Hoffman’s defence is far better than both Paula and Talau. Can’t figure what he hasn’t hasn’t had a shot

I said this exact same thing and got Absolute ridiculed by Demps and JC. But they know better so all good

Whatttt?

demps catching strays haha
 

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