Stefano Utoikamanu #241

Moh said:
Bro come on, he did not dog it.

The whole team was nowhere near good enough and were monstered (as a team) by a team full of rep players.
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That's true...but he's about to become our highest paid player.. do u think his effort ,commitment and performance was commensurate with that...?
 
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stephen said:
I agree, but by what measure was Stef one of our better players?
If you want elite money, you should provide superior performance on a consistent basis. If Stef is so much better than the rest of our pack, should you use them as the yardstick to measure his performance?
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He did his job. 34 tackles , one miss. You can bang on about his lack of yardage but it wasn’t a game where you give your front rower 20 carries. We were getting thumped.

Look at our backs stat lines. They all missed way too many tackles
 
Winston Churchill said:
The same accepting mediocrity fans that enabled Brooks to play like shit for a decade and yet were happy week after week to walk away with swollen lips and skinned up knees. Trying too hard mate, Stef aint gonna see ya.

I didnt realise it was a forums member position to give solutions as well as opinions, my bad. Whats your solution on winning every game for the rest of the year? Go
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Your typical of the guys on here who say, we can sign 2 players for his contract money but when asked who those players are you have nothing. Not sure if you watch much Cup or Q-cup but there isn’t those supposed 2 players that can produce better than Stef. Been around the Cup and junior rep scene far too long to see that those so called players you speak of simply don’t exist. As far as my expectations are on the team wins this year, prior to the year I expected us to win 6-8 games. I think we still get 6 wins. Its crystal clear your a little embarrassed by your lack of footy IQ so you made it personal. Get out to some cup games and you can see for yourself
 
Tucker said:
I don’t see why you never apportion blame to this guy. Ever.
He doesn’t provide a platform. Doesn’t intimidate, doesn’t make strong meters and then keep play rolling with a fast play the ball. Doesn’t inspire.
Of course it’s not his fault in isolation, but he is the one talking shit about the club publicly and looking to get out. That brings more scrutiny.
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It is his fault though . The club 2-3 years ago decided that he was the future and brought in klemmer last year to get him to that next level . Father Time seems to have caught up with Klem , but what’s Stefan’s excuse . He’s 25 about the right age for taking a leap .
And he does take a leap …. When we are playing a pack where other guys have gotten us over the advantage line . He’s not a leader . And not worth a million dollars . He’s not even worth 800k .
I’m not big on hyperbole , and I try to be rational as best as I can , but on this I’m 💯 confident your Aaron woods comparison is very Apt !
 
BAGNF05 said:
He did his job. 34 tackles , one miss. You can bang on about his lack of yardage but it wasn’t a game where you give your front rower 20 carries. We were getting thumped.

Look at our backs stat lines. They all missed way too many tackles
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Don't think we'll ever agree entirely on this issue but respect your opinion, mate. Cheers.
 
Tito Santana said:
I was there. He did nothing. He doesn’t run hard. He’s not worth $900k.

Let him go along with Naden, Klemmer, Bateman, Sullivan. All are pathetic.

Bateman would pound for pound (output and contract) be the worst signing of all time.
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I'm not going to keep going back on forth on Stef - happy to agree to disagree.

He's one of the best props in the game who (again) is not even at the peak of his career. We will struggle to replace him with anyone equal or better.

Can definitely agree on Bateman. Garbage.
 
BAGNF05 said:
He did his job. 34 tackles , one miss. You can bang on about his lack of yardage but it wasn’t a game where you give your front rower 20 carries. We were getting thumped.

Look at our backs stat lines. They all missed way too many tackles
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What are you talking about ? That first 10-15 mins was the time. Pole found his front , and found yardage . Stef said he was going to take it to JWH , and he did take it too him … he took him for a nice dinner and a wine and got screwed afterwards .
 
BAGNF05 said:
You think the game plan when you’re down 20 nil is up your front rowers involvement?
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Once again WTF are you talking about !!!!! His individual performance was shit . He can’t control what happens outside him . But the best front rowers , you know the ones who are on a million , can influence th game with a game changing run , a big hit etc. like YEO did today . His backs made a meal of it , but he did what a leader of your pack is supposed to .
 
I missed the game but noticed Stef had a massive game and got 54m3 from 9 runs..
Surely our offer is taken away or reduced as that was his moment to prove he is worth more but failed.
 
Lestronge said:
What are you talking about ? That first 10-15 mins was the time. Pole found his front , and found yardage . Stef said he was going to take it to JWH , and he did take it too him … he took him for a nice dinner and a wine and got screwed afterwards .
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0-0 after 15 mins I believe.

We had a few good ball sets to take the lead but our attack was again impotent.

How that’s a props fault is beyond me. Manu made AD his [This word has been automatically removed].
 
Lestronge said:
Once again WTF are you talking about !!!!! His individual performance was shit . He can’t control what happens outside him . But the best front rowers , you know the ones who are on a million , can influence th game with a game changing run , a big hit etc. like YEO did today . His backs made a meal of it , but he did what a leader of your pack is supposed to .
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Penrith were awful. Not sure what you watched Yeo do. They were nearly as bad as us.
 
BAGNF05 said:
0-0 after 15 mins I believe.

We had a few good ball sets to take the lead but our attack was again impotent.

How that’s a props fault is beyond me. Manu made AD his [This word has been automatically removed].
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Have you played football before ? In the forwards? That first 15 minutes was horrendous by him . He got owned ever hit up. Basically doing the exact opposite of what he said he was going to do all week .
The score line has nothing to do with it . But the 20 min mark , the big dogs were barking and he was nowhere to be seen . Hence the next 60 minutes , the roosters backs were up and about because they knew thier big dogs were eating .
That’s football , and it all happened in the first 15-20 minutes .
 
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Lestronge said:
Have you played football before ? In the forwards? That first 15 minutes was horrendous by him . He got owned ever hit up. Basically doing the exact opposite of what he said he was going to do all week .
The score line has nothing to do with it . But the 20 min mark , the big dogs were barking and he was nowhere to be seen . Hence the next 60 minutes , the roosters backs were up and about because they knew thier big dogs were eating .
That’s football , and it all happened in the first 15-20 minutes .
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Played enough to know that he wasn’t beating that Roosters pack single handedly.
 
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