Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[weststigers]

So much rubbish chat about Halves, it’s Galvin and Jerome next year 100% Sezier hopefully remains in the squad and Latu develops. Bud needs to go.

What we need are middles, not big name has beens like the safitis. We need players with commitment, youth and skill that are ahead of our newly introduced developing players. This will spur them all on to grow.

Players floating around the edge of their starting side. I believe the play is that we pay overs for 3 players on a long term. This will pull hopefully them away from their clubs.

Going through the list of players no signed for next year. Here are some targets

Klese Haas
Corey Waddell
Joe Chan (MO)
Jamayne Tanou Brown (been injured all year)
Charlie Guymer (played tonight, looked great)
Tom Eisenhuth

Players we should go after and pay overs for:
Liam Henry
Naf Whyte
Davvy Moale

I've said before Klese Haas would be a decent pick up.

An out there one would be Pangai if he was on 500k to 600k and NAS if Stef leaves.

Prop rotation of Pole, Pangai, Klemmer and NAS looks a bit better than what we have now. Plus if Bateman goes down, Pangai can move to 2nd row and Twal comes in.

I think you could run with that pack for a couple of years until we understand if any juniors are pushing for spots and if anyone decent comes onto the market.

 

[27kelpie]

to the players u mentioned-very generous

I believe Klese Haas, Tom Eisenhuth have had great years of growth and showed they can compete at the highest level. Joe Chan showed a lot of raw talent but is behind blore. I’m unsure with Jamayne why he has missed so much this year. Waddell is solid and a decent age. The kid on debut tonight looked very promising.

The other three are in great systems and showed supreme talent this year. Liam Henry is all effort. Naf Whyte is pure power and Mooale is similar to Steff, 48 games and is 22 years old, big body would be a good pairing with Pole and Steff.

 

[Merlot]

fk knows what the answers r,sick of loosing

 

[27kelpie]

I've said before Klese Haas would be a decent pick up.

An out there one would be Pangai if he was on 500k to 600k and NAS if Stef leaves.

Prop rotation of Pole, Pangai, Klemmer and NAS looks a bit better than what we have now. Plus if Bateman goes down, Pangai can move to 2nd row and Twal comes in.

I think you could run with that pack for a couple of years until we understand if any juniors are pushing for spots and if anyone decent comes onto the market.

NAS’s body is starting to fail him though. Pangai would be good but I can see him being lazy at the tigers. He needs to be under a dictatorship.

 

[weststigers]

NAS’s body is starting to fail him though. Pangai would be good but I can see him being lazy at the tigers. He needs to be under a dictatorship.

Pangai is a risky one. I don't think anyone in the NRL will offer more than a 1 or 2 year deal because of what you mentioned. He shows glimpses, but hasn't found consistency at any club.

Seems to be pretty calm under Bennett. Has only played 2 games but averages 90 metres from 40 minutes off the interchange. Too early to tell if he's turned the corner.

With NAS, I haven't heard anything about his body failing him. What are the issues with his body?

 

[27kelpie]

Pangai is a risky one. I don't think anyone in the NRL will offer more than a 1 or 2 year deal because of what you mentioned. He shows glimpses, but hasn't found consistency at any club.

Seems to be pretty calm under Bennett. Has only played 2 games but averages 90 metres from 40 minutes off the interchange. Too early to tell if he's turned the corner.

With NAS, I haven't heard anything about his body failing him. What are the issues with his body?

He missed most of the start of this season, I think it was his knee

 

[weststigers]

He missed most of the start of this season, I think it was his knee

Hamstring...came back in April. He's been pretty sturdy over his career. Latu has done a few hamstrings...what does that say about him?

 

[27kelpie]

Hamstring...came back in April. He's been pretty sturdy over his career. Latu has done a few hamstrings...what does that say about him?

Ok was it a hamstring, I thought it was something he had surgery for in the off season.

NAS would be a good signing but as impact off the bench. I wouldn’t see Melbourne letting him go. But I think we could get Chan and lock down that second edge. Melbourne owe us one.
Really we need to keep Steff. I feel we are doing everything the right way, which is not throwing the bag at him and giving him everything.

 

[The Chad]

Interesting.

Pangai Jnr is considered worth a look, despite repeated poor discipline & literally giving up on his club.

 

[weststigers]

Interesting.

Pangai Jnr is considered worth a look, despite repeated poor discipline & literally giving up on his club.

Yeah...what would Wayne Bennett know

 

[balmain boy]

That last statement is just a straight up lie and you know it

In case you didn't realise only one of our junior rep sides made the finals. Two of them came last. Of those Harold Matt's GF winning players, most are too small to play first grade consistently at a high level.
Our Flegg side lost by 60 last week, we're last in Cup and NRL. We like to talk ourselves up but most clubs have talent equal to or greater than what we have.

 

[The Chad]

Yeah...what would Wayne Bennett know

Phil Gould & Ricky Stuart probably know a thing or two as well I guess.

 

[weststigers]

Phil Gould & Ricky Stuart probably know a thing or two as well I guess.

Are you still upset about Horsburgh and Hetherington? You've had a right old sulk haven't you?

 

[crazycat]

I believe Klese Haas, Tom Eisenhuth have had great years of growth and showed they can compete at the highest level. Joe Chan showed a lot of raw talent but is behind blore. I’m unsure with Jamayne why he has missed so much this year. Waddell is solid and a decent age. The kid on debut tonight looked very promising.

The other three are in great systems and showed supreme talent this year. Liam Henry is all effort. Naf Whyte is pure power and Mooale is similar to Steff, 48 games and is 22 years old, big body would be a good pairing with Pole and Steff.

We really need to hire an "all effort" player, in the style of Liam Fulton. Heck if he can perform like the other Liam, lets do it.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

In case you didn't realise only one of our junior rep sides made the finals. Two of them came last. Of those Harold Matt's GF winning players, most are too small to play first grade consistently at a high level.
Our Flegg side lost by 60 last week, we're last in Cup and NRL. We like to talk ourselves up but most clubs have talent equal to or greater than what we have.

I think it was the Telegraph that provided the smorgasbord of young WTs' talent - the Large bros, Makasini etc. We have some very good young players coming through and we need to concentrate on getting them through to the NRL. I am not too bothered by results in the lower grades as we all know the club has had many injuries so younger players have been pushed up which means our results will take a hit but our players benefit from being exposed to better competition. I would however like the club to have Latu Fainu in the halves and Faagutu at lock in NSW Cup. These players are highly talented and should be forming a combination. The idea being both increase the pool of quality NRL players we lack now.

 

[Tom Shines]

I think it was the Telegraph that provided the smorgasbord of young WTs' talent - the Large bros, Makasini etc. We have some very good young players coming through and we need to concentrate on getting them through to the NRL. I am not too bothered by results in the lower grades as we all know the club has had many injuries so younger players have been pushed up which means our results will take a hit but our players benefit from being exposed to better competition. I would however like the club to have Latu Fainu in the halves and Faagutu at lock in NSW Cup. These players are highly talented and should be forming a combination. The idea being both increase the pool of quality NRL players we lack now.

how old are Makasini and Large ? They are years away … 18 yr old Galvin is the exception and not the rule …

 

[weststigers]

I think it was the Telegraph that provided the smorgasbord of young WTs' talent - the Large bros, Makasini etc. We have some very good young players coming through and we need to concentrate on getting them through to the NRL. I am not too bothered by results in the lower grades as we all know the club has had many injuries so younger players have been pushed up which means our results will take a hit but our players benefit from being exposed to better competition. I would however like the club to have Latu Fainu in the halves and Faagutu at lock in NSW Cup. These players are highly talented and should be forming a combination. The idea being both increase the pool of quality NRL players we lack now.

Just a general comment, but our juniors tend to be seen through a lens of upward linear and incremental development as a given.

These kids are 16. There's no guarantee that the best kids in their current age group can emulate that in NRL for any consistent period of time or at all in many cases.

Often the best kids in their age group simply become bog average first graders at best. The NRL is littered with kids that played Australian schoolboys or u16 origin that never progressed past NSW Cup or intermittent first grade appearances.

Don't get me wrong, it's good to have genuine talent coming through, but these kids have proved nothing other than they are better than kids their age. Much of their opposition is underdeveloped 16 year olds and their success may be more a function of their accelerated physical growth rather than genuine talent. You simply don't know until they train with the big boys and create headaches against established first graders.

It seems to me, the kids that translate from youth footy to NRL are those that are considered smallish, but excel anyway. We had Moses and Tedesco who came into grade fairly small, we now have Galvin. Reece Walsh was tiny. Thurston. Cherry Evans. Ben Barba. These guys were cutting up junior teams despite their size disadvantage. The progressive physical strength of playing in the NRL, just made them better players over time.

The hype around our 16 year olds is a little premature considering they have not tested themselves at a professional level and 2 to 3 years is a long time in your teens. Anything can happen.

Not trying to be a doubting Thomas. Just my 2 cents

 

[Mccarry]

Yeah...what would Wayne Bennett know

That he is the best best coach in the game…

 

[Nonotmeagain]

Yeah...what would Wayne Bennett know

Yeah - he left the potential problem to somebody else to manage.

 

[supercoach]

Our major problem is our pathway kids are hitting grade and being put into substandard teams and getting smashed. It comes down to depth and fifty percent of our top grade should be in reserve grade helping the kid’s transition into grade, and filling in when required at NRL level. This problem will not go away till we recruit another four NRL standard players on top of the two coming next season. That than takes up four top 30 spots .

Strong clubs like Melbourne do Not rush their pathway kids and surround them with experienced players in their feeder clubs.