Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Needaname]

The point is the 13 should generally be defending on the side that is short on numbers, it takes a good footy IQ to always be that aware, especially when fatigued.
The 13 is a specialist role, but with us it’s a revolving door.

It does, but no maybe by circumstance it is the lock that falls away to the side that’s short but the top sides generally have all of their forwards thinking in this manner. It is often the fullback that indicates what side of the ruck to return to. A pattern of ours is our forwards fall away to the blind for a breather leaving the open short.
Another pattern good teams deploy is allowing their 3rd man who is unable to fill in at marker to go back behind the defensive line ready for the following tackle with the remaining 9 players compressing across the line.
I just think we have too many players (multiple that don’t have the mindset of where to go to be ready for the next play and some others who think their job is done and are happy to clock off for the next play.
But rarely within outside do we have players thinking about positioning for the next run or play.

 

[batboy]

he will end up being like the second coming of Jonathan Thurston,

SMH....
I'm the best part of 50 and I've seen 1 Jonathan Thurston.
Saying there's another playing Ressies for the Magpies is just stupid (I am getting used to it though)

Bud has had more than a few coaches now, And a couple clubs....
And Bud is still Bud, Getting outplayed by a Rookie....

 

[Needaname]

SMH....
I'm the best part of 50 and I've seen 1 Jonathan Thurston.
Saying there's another playing Ressies for the Magpies is just stupid (I am getting used to it though)

Bud has had more than a few coaches now, And a couple clubs....
And Bud is still Bud, Getting outplayed by a Rookie....

We’ve got more chance of luai becoming the next JT than Sullivan.

 

[king_sirro]

The point is the 13 should generally be defending on the side that is short on numbers, it takes a good footy IQ to always be that aware, especially when fatigued.
The 13 is a specialist role, but with us it’s a revolving door.

The game is too fast for the 13 to adjust like you are suggesting. He would need to be superman.

 

[Vicious]

SMH....
I'm the best part of 50 and I've seen 1 Jonathan Thurston.
Saying there's another playing Ressies for the Magpies is just stupid (I am getting used to it though)

Bud has had more than a few coaches now, And a couple clubs....
And Bud is still Bud, Getting outplayed by a Rookie....

I’d say it’s a fair chance if he was being coached by Bennett or Bellamy you would see him play at or near his best much more regularly and if that ever happens you will see a quality player.

 

[Vicious]

The game is too fast for the 13 to adjust like you are suggesting. He would need to be superman.

Well tell us why we get caught short of numbers far more often than any other team ?

 

[Needaname]

Well tell us why we get caught short of numbers far more often than any other team ?

Like I said, other teams don’t rely wholly and solely on their 13 to do it.

 

[Vicious]

Like I said, other teams don’t rely wholly and solely on their 13 to do it.

So which players are the main offenders.
Does this mean our players are dumb as well as not willing to run or tackle hard ?

 

[Needaname]

So which players are the main offenders.
Does this mean our players are dumb as well as not willing to run or tackle hard ?

Nailed it.

 

[batboy]

I’d say it’s a fair chance if he was being coached by Bennett or Bellamy you would see him play at or near his best much more regularly and if that ever happens you will see a quality player.

Yeah... We know, The next JT (Right?)
#Dreamer

If he was as good as you can imagine, Why did Bennett buy an unproven kid from SG Ball over him?
He'd not playing for those coaches, because they're good coaches....
(Good Coaches know Good Players)

 

[Needaname]

So which players are the main offenders.
Does this mean our players are dumb as well as not willing to run or tackle hard ?

look it’s a snowball effect, a kind of Swiss cheese wheel.
We are the least effective team to make meters from our back 5. Which means we have to call on our forwards to get involved. Other teams have the luxury of having their back 3 or 5 getting to at least the 40m line by the 3rd tackle. We rarely make the 40 by our 5th tackle.

 

[batboy]

We’ve got more chance of luai becoming the next JT than Sullivan.

I would suggest you and I have as much chance of being the next JT as Sullivan has....
(And I've never even seen you take on a short side from Dummy Half)

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Both Fainu and Galvin can defend. Fainu has had limited opportunities due to injury but I'd rather go with a highly talented youngster rather than Sullivan whose only consistency has been his inconsistency.

What have I missed,
When have we seen anything that Fainu can do (tackle or attack) has he played any minutes in the NRL this year ?

Hope he can play as good as a lot of peoples expectations.

He has been absent through injury, not ability. He is not afraid of putting his body on the line and we know the playing qualities of his brothers. We know exactly what Sullivan can or can't deliver.

 

[Vicious]

Yeah... We know, The next JT (Right?)
#Dreamer

If he was as good as you can imagine, Why did Bennett buy an unproven kid from SG Ball over him?
He'd not playing for those coaches, because they're good coaches....
(Good Coaches know Good Players)

You might need to get back on the bat phone with that information.
Bennett signed Jamie Humphreys who is not SG Ball age, he been around the lower grades for a couple of years now.
He would have been signed on a minimal top 30 contract,
That is fine you don’t think Sullivan will become a regular quality NRL player, I do but it will highly unlikely be with Wests Tigers.
Let’s see who is right, time will tell.

 

[wonka]

I thought Bud was getting better the more games he played consecutively.
Pity he got injured.

 

[batboy]

You might need to get back on the bat phone with that information.
Bennett signed Jamie Humphreys who is not SG Ball age, he been around the lower grades for a couple of years now.

What are you, His Nan?
Got on the Bat Phone - Come back with this for you....

Back before a few weeks ago, When JD was still the Souths coach....
Bennett signed a kid Half from SG ball (or younger)...
to be the starting half for the team he was coaching.

You'd surely have heard of him by now? They call him Isaiya Katoa, Pretty good eye for Talent it seems....
Might be why he's now signed your man Humphreys when it's clear to the whole comp they'd get Sullivan for a song with the Tigers chipping in - this is of course, If they wanted him.

Now hang about,
You had him as the next JT (An Immortal in waiting) a moment ago,
Now he's just a 'regular' quality NRL player? - Which is it?

Like I said, Good coaches go for the Good Players....
Might just be why your man signed with the Wooden Spooners to play for a bloke that'd never coached a day in his life?

ps: You got the 'Highly Unlikely' bit right....

 

[Oldman]

He has been absent through injury, not ability. He is not afraid of putting his body on the line and we know the playing qualities of his brothers. We know exactly what Sullivan can or can't deliver.

All I am asking is what has he done in NRL to get everyone so excited ?

 

[king_sirro]

Well tell us why we get caught short of numbers far more often than any other team ?

How long have you got haha.

 

[stephen]

Picking a team to play to save your life I'd have Farah at hooker every time.
Time fades how good Robbie was.
Time also fades how much better than either of them Benny was.

Good comment re Benny. Sort of revolutionised the hooker role. Didn't get enough credit for his toughness either I reckon.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

All I am asking is what has he done in NRL to get everyone so excited ?

He has done about the same as Galvin, Bula or Pole did before they played. NRL. No doubt there is a lot of talent but we have to see how it translates to the NRL. What I do know is we need more quality in our NRL side and certainly imo he is an improvement of some of the players we have in our backline or some that have been in our backline and are now playing NSW Cup.