Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Tucker said:
When we did give him a breather, it was around the time he was getting frustrated and there were reports he was mouthing off in the dressing room about leaving.
That is when the extended break was required. We actually won that week and there was no need to rush him back in.
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I agree, no idea if it was Marshall's inexperience as a coach or what caused it but it's his first year in grade of a potentially 10 - 15 year career that has a pretty high ceiling with the right mentoring and coaching. Even if they gave him a few games, then a few games in the box to look down and learn then a few games back in, but to tell him to play because that's what the team needs, I get he needs to learn a team first mentality but not in his first 2 - 3 years those are purely about him and his personal development. That's where I'm worried for us with Benjis inexperience I hope he learns from it to help develop the younger guys better. If he keeps doing that I just can't see how they develop. Imo the first 2 - 3 years in and out of nrl for the young guys are selfish years for them to learn and grow not worry about the team, that's why we have older heads in the shed for.
 
TurnStyle said:
Didn't mean it as a dig at you - hope it wasn't taken that way.
Still, the fact is that the year he was voted best in internationals he was at the tigers. You still have to be pretty bloody good to win it.
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No mate didn't take it as a dig at all. You make a great point I tend to agree with you turnstyle.
 
Tucker said:
Good development is not about speed.
He was elevated way ahead of his schedule and that would not have occurred at many other clubs.
Yes he looked good at times… he also looked terrible at times. When it came to shutting down broken field attack he had NFI whatsoever and why should he? He missed out on the development phase into senior footy and went practically straight from schoolboys to NRL.
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By elevated way ahead of schedule are you referring to age? In terms of age playing first grade, I can think of some players who went on to become champions in the game, Peter Sterling 17 years old, Brad Fittler 17, Terry Lamb 18 and I think Tim Brasher was either 17 or 18. Fittler and Brasher were still at school. I am sure there are many past and present who have played first grade at 18 or younger.
 
KevB said:
By elevated way ahead of schedule are you referring to age? In terms of age playing first grade, I can think of some players who went on to become champions in the game, Peter Sterling 17 years old, Brad Fittler 17, Terry Lamb 18 and I think Tim Brasher was either 17 or 18. Fittler and Brasher were still at school. I am sure there are many past and present who have played first grade at 18 or younger.
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You can add Chris Lawrence to that list there is a lot of players that when they debut in 1st grade they fit in straight away and don't look back.
 
Jolls said:
Unfortunately, not being able to shut down broken field attack, can also be applied to many around him.

We also lacked the ability to control the pace of the game to our advantage; something Sezar was bought in to do and Api lacks in his game. This really hurt us last season, and several prior.

Luai, based on his time at half in the absence of "The Chin", has at least demonstrated that he can do it. Having said that it was with an extremely fit and well disciplined team supporting him.

I am hopeful that Luai can bring this to our team. If so, between Api controlling the ruck and him controlling the game, we have a decent foundation to build from.
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His forwards at Penrith got them going forward and laid the foundation... I hope we can get close to what they showed... Otherwise defense will be in our faces all year.

Lose the ruck early it's tough to get it back
 
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KevB said:
By elevated way ahead of schedule are you referring to age? In terms of age playing first grade, I can think of some players who went on to become champions in the game, Peter Sterling 17 years old, Brad Fittler 17, Terry Lamb 18 and I think Tim Brasher was either 17 or 18. Fittler and Brasher were still at school. I am sure there are many past and present who have played first grade at 18 or younger.
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Like everything in life it’s about taking opportunities.
IF Wests Tigers had not placed Galvin in our NRL team last season, he would have been stuck playing in what were mostly our very average NSW Cup or Jersey Flegg teams and I highly doubt he would have had the opportunities to shine and standout like he did while playing for our NRL team.
He grabbed his opportunity with both hands and well done to him, but if the opportunity was not presented to him by Wests Tigers in 2024, he would likely currently be a fringe player with promise and worth 200k maximum on the open market.
So yes it’s Lachie himself who has put in the hard work, ensured he is an elite fit athlete and made the most of his opportunity, but that would have been very unlikely to have happened so soon at any other club, let’s hope this is brought into consideration when negotiating his next contract.
 
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KevB said:
By elevated way ahead of schedule are you referring to age? In terms of age playing first grade, I can think of some players who went on to become champions in the game, Peter Sterling 17 years old, Brad Fittler 17, Terry Lamb 18 and I think Tim Brasher was either 17 or 18. Fittler and Brasher were still at school. I am sure there are many past and present who have played first grade at 18 or younger.
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They all played in the days where you had a beer at halftime.
In this day and age of full time professionalism, it’s a big ask to jump from schoolboys, skip the senior levels and be the playmaker in first grade.
 
Tucker said:
They all played in the days where you had a beer at halftime.
In this day and age of full time professionalism, it’s a big ask to jump from schoolboys, skip the senior levels and be the playmaker in first grade.
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So you have answered your own question marks on Galvin’s ability with this comment and hence the reason the likes of Gus Gould and virtually the whole rugby league media have already placed him on a pedestal.
 
Vicious said:
Like everything in life it’s about taking opportunities.
IF Wests Tigers had not placed Galvin in our NRL team last season, he would have been stuck playing in what were mostly our very average NSW Cup or Jersey Flegg teams and I highly doubt he would have had the opportunities to shine and standout like he did while playing for our NRL team.
He grabbed his opportunity with both hands and well done to him, but if the opportunity was not presented to him by Wests Tigers in 2024, he would likely currently be a fringe player with promise and worth 200k maximum on the open market.
So yes it’s Lachie himself who has put in the hard work, ensured he is an elite fit athlete and made the most of his opportunity, but that would have been very unlikely to have happened so soon at any other club, let’s hope this is brought into consideration when negotiating his next contract.
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Some are describing it as just another dumb move by the Wests Tigers, bringing him to prominence and to the attention of all the NRL, and as you say, elevating him from a fringe 200k player to one that can now possibly demand elite type money.

Yes, a very stupid thing to do especially when he has a greedy, conniving, scum bag of a player manager who only sees dollar signs and has no doubt done his best to convince his parents that loyalty counts for nothing and that he should go to one of the "better" clubs and turn his back on the club that gave him his opportunity.

It appears that many, if not most on here, believe that it is a foregone conclusion that Lachlan Galvin will move on, but unlike them, I believe that against all the odds that Galvin will end up staying here for the longer term and that common sense will prevail.

My belief is that good will triumph over evil and that consideration will be given for the opportunity he was given here and it will be recognized that this club is on the rise and that by staying here he can create a legacy.

I'm sure many will be telling me that I'm dreaming.
 
Vicious said:
So you have answered your own question marks on Galvin’s ability with this comment and hence the reason the likes of Gus Gould and virtually the whole rugby league media have already placed him on a pedestal.
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What was my question?
I was making comment regarding development and his family’s reluctance to sign on considering our form in this area.
 
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