OFFICIAL Adam Doueihi #227

[weststigers]

Never forget Lockyer moving from worlds best fullback to 5/8. Imagine being the worlds best at something only to be told for the team we need to move you elsewhere. He did an amazing job at 5/8 as well. Truly one of the greats.

or Brad Fittler - centre, 5/8 and lock

 

[the enforcer.]

Im not going to crucify Benji or Doueihi. I think more will come out on monday , on what was actually said to each other.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Just one final thing on this ; there’s been heaps of legends asked to change positions coming through .
The biggest one I can think of is Reuben Wiki started on the wing . Ended up in the front row as one of the premier props . Literally changed position 4 times and excelled every single time he was asked to move. And is widely regarded as one of the most beloved teammates ever .

Doueihi's manager is savvy and switching him from the halves will impact his contract value. The argument being if you're not using him in the halves, he could earn much more at another club as a half now, hence the request for release. The new commission will also be welcome.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I saw that and thought it strange Adel suggested Manasse coud be a good leader at the club. Sure as a mentor to help keep the younger guys on track thrugh his life experience, but the guys just getting out of prison, im all for everyone having a 2nd chance, we all make mistakes. But to come in instantly as a leader i found that comment a bit strange. I thought leadership was earned through trust, sacrifice and dedication. How could he just arrive and be a leader.

I think that you at least half balanced your concerns raised in the latter of your post with the leadership qualities that mentoring brings written above it.

I didn't want WT to have anything to do with Taylan until he proved that he was worthy of a shot, and from all reports Manase has been a model prisoner that is attempting to make good of his wrongdoings late in adolescence. I would much rather him than say JDB, despite him not being found guilty.

 

[Chunk]

No only are our senior players dumb on field, they’re dumb in real life.

I said it the other day - Javon wasn’t named at 7 to not play 7 this week,
Adam needed to read between the lines a little…
Keary said the same thing last night, you don’t name a kid to debut at 7
- if he’s not debuting at 7…
You name him on the bench or some such!!

So did AD already know he was going to play at lock before he went to the judiciary?

Why would the Tigers go through the judiciary process, if they knew he wasn't going to play?

Well that is crazy, who paid for the judiciary appearance, did AD go without the Tigers consent?

Or did he say he was going to play and then changed his mind Thursday morning?

 

[weststigerman]

Last 2 games stats for Adam Doohie

Try assists: 1
Line break assists: 0

If Andrews gets 1 try assist and 1 line break assist tomorrow, he will have done more in one game than AD did in two. Lets see how it goes.

You think we’re going to score a point? We have an optimist!

 

[Tim Sheens]

Never forget Lockyer moving from worlds best fullback to 5/8. Imagine being the worlds best at something only to be told for the team we need to move you elsewhere. He did an amazing job at 5/8 as well. Truly one of the greats.

Andrew Johns at hooker to accommodate much lesser players.

 

[Tim Sheens]

So did AD already knew he was going to play at lock before he went to the judiciary?

Why would the Tigers go through the judiciary process, if they knew he wasn't going to play?

Well that is crazy, who paid for the judiciary appearance, did AD go without the Tigers consent?

Or did he say he was going to play and then changed his mind Thursday morning?

WT wanted to clear both players so that they could best contribute to the team. Sadly, it now seems that the wrong one got off and decided to take his ball home.

 

[Chunk]

WT wanted to clear both players so that they could best contribute to the team. Sadly, it now seems that the wrong one got off and decided to take his ball home.

Yes, I understand that.

But why send him if he knew he wasn't going to play?

To make a point or something?

 

[EllisFan]

Forget about AD's poor behaviour for a second, that's clear.

However, I was wondering why did it happen on the Thursday, two days before the game?

Why wouldn't these discussions take place at the start of the week? Or even weeks a go?

Did AD find out, all of a sudden?

Just wondering how this was managed?

Tues night judiciary, Wed players day off I believe.

 

[Chunk]

Tues night judiciary, Wed players day off I believe.

I don't understand what that has anything to do with my question, sorry.

Why send him if he knew he wasn't going to play?

To make a point or something?

 

[EllisFan]

I don't understand what that has anything to do with my question, sorry.

Why send him if he knew he wasn't going to play?

To make a point or something?

Benji didn’t know if he was playing till late Tuesday, spoke to him first opportunity

 

[tig_prmz]

Objectively

AD has been under valued / under respected his entire career.

I dont support the refusal to play but he could have rocked up and played like garbage which others do.

That's where you need a director of Football, an on-call sports psych, a counsellor or something like that to get his mental space right.

As others have said, this should have been dealt with 4 years ago when it happened with Noddy.

The problem is that we are hiring elite footballers but giving them the support network of park footballers.

This isn't shifting blame away from AD, he should know better but each year we are having issues with players because they're unhappy here and because we don't give them the support that other clubs might.

Losing sucks, but there are other teams that have lose more games than us, but deal with it better.

 

[weststigers]

So did AD already know he was going to play at lock before he went to the judiciary?

Why would the Tigers go through the judiciary process, if they knew he wasn't going to play?

Well that is crazy, who paid for the judiciary appearance, did AD go without the Tigers consent?

Or did he say he was going to play and then changed his mind Thursday morning?

Just to fill in some gaps for you.

On SEN with Vossy - AD said Benji leaves it up to the players to decide whether they will fight the charge. Direct quote from AD. I don't know who pays, but I assume the club covers the cost...not sure that matters in the scheme of things.

The team must prepare as if AD is NOT playing. Latu was going to be suspended anyway so Javon needed reps in case AD wasn't getting off.

Once AD got off on Tuesday night, Wednesday is a day off for players. AD was told Thursday morning about playing lock.

You are building a narrative that AD wasn't given sufficient notice, but the club had no idea who would be available until Tuesday night and Wednesday was a day off.

Given that Javon had trained there and Doueihi has played at lock before - it was a way to get them all in the team together. I don't see the problem.

We have scored 22 points in 4 weeks. We needed to try something different.

 

[innsaneink]

Blind Love for Doueihi - reckons he was a shoe in for Origin 😂😂

Ive only listened to them half a doz times...when the coach was on mainly

 

[TheEnz]

I think the point is that we seem to have a lot of them.

Are we hiring people of weak character, turning them into one or is it more a case of beggars can't be choosers?

What changes do we need to make so this doesn't happen again? What can Benji learn from this? What can the Club learn from this?

It's fine to keep blaming individuals when they leave or are about to leave, but that's useless. You still need to do an internal review to understand what we could have done better.

problem is that these guys that are average look like superstars when they play in a below average team. They strut around like they are candidates for the next immortal. We need to get this team above average across the whole squad and they players that shine have a right to strut around.

 

[Bellend]

problem is that these guys that are average look like superstars when they play in a below average team. They strut around like they are candidates for the next immortal. We need to get this team above average across the whole squad and they players that shine have a right to strut around.

110% correct the false dawn.

 

[Donny Brasco]

The upside is that most people are talking about someone other than Andrews making his debut.
Doohickie might have done him a favor by making it about himself and not the team.
If his argument was why are you not benching Luai who is off next year instead of me, its a fair point though it would hold more weight if he had also won 4 rings.

 

[innsaneink]

I saw that and thought it strange Adel suggested Manasse coud be a good leader at the club. Sure as a mentor to help keep the younger guys on track thrugh his life experience, but the guys just getting out of prison, im all for everyone having a 2nd chance, we all make mistakes. But to come in instantly as a leader i found that comment a bit strange. I thought leadership was earned through trust, sacrifice and dedication. How could he just arrive and be a leader.

I.just watched it then and it reminded me of someone here mentioning Manase as a mentor a few weeks back...i ridiculed whoever it was...seems.they were parrotting the pod coach all.along.
I wonder how many others opinions are influenced in such a way...ive noticed a few.

 

[barnsta]

Would prefer latu and Andrews as the halves. Yes they will lose a few games but they have crack and don't go through the motions.
Andrews stats in cup are awesome for a team coming 5th.
I like doueihi but this ain't first time he has thrown his toys out of the cot.