Big name player in trouble

@Tigermama said:
@sheer64 said:
@Tigermama said:
The apology was pathetic. No feeling behind it. It sounded like an apology you give, when you are only sorry you got caught, acting like a drunken idiot again. An apology is not worth anything, unless you mean it. The fact that he had to keep looking down, to read what it said tells me that it didnt come from the heart. I could be wrong. I hope he learns from this and stays sober from now on.

Your a tough one Mama.

I can be Sheer64\. And I'm a great believer in "tough love". As far as I'm concerned, Mitchell's apology, didn't come across as meaningful and sincere as it should have been.
Anyway, his apology is only worth as much as his next action. Stop the drink Mitch and grow up, is my advice to him.

I'm with you on this Tigermama. Pearce is a grub who really only apologised because it was the politically correct thing to do.
 
If the NRL and the Roosters want to appear transparent in this whole thing, they should order Pearce be drug tested the moment he lands at the airport wherever they've flown to… However it appears the cover up is almost complete, probably too late to test for coke by today
 
@Tiger Watto said:
The Roosters & NRL are gona cop it from social commentators if they attempt to treat this as a singular incident. I think once the 'Oh Mitchell' phase slows down, today & tomorrow we will see this broken down into individual actions and that will be messy for he NRL. If Dave Smith was still here, his contract would be torn up immediately. Lucky for him John Grant is not so serious.

One radio host has already made comment that this is 3-4 incidents in the space of 5 minutes, and a slap on the wrists isn't gona cut it. They stated the unwanted advance on the female is harassment, disrespectful and a common occurrence with footballers whose governing body has a policy on such matters; the simulated sex act as vial and disgusting; and then he urinated on himself due to his drunken state, going on to question what happened before and after this 5 minutes on video.

Uncle Nick must be working overtime to sweep this under the carpet.

Naaah! Watto - tell ole Mate Nick to get a vacuum cleaner and suck it up. LOL
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I hate this line coming out: Thinking about selling it to the daily mail to end his career.

It was deliberate sabotage. They knew he was drunk but still had it in for him - most unfortunate. They could have suggested he very handsomely compensate the woman for all the hassles with even a trip overseas for her. IF kept in house he could have been pressured into rehab. I wonder how they feel now.

You mean blackmail?

Of course that isn't as bad…...?????
 
@Russell said:
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I hate this line coming out: Thinking about selling it to the daily mail to end his career.

It was deliberate sabotage. They knew he was drunk but still had it in for him - most unfortunate. They could have suggested he very handsomely compensate the woman for all the hassles with even a trip overseas for her. IF kept in house he could have been pressured into rehab. I wonder how they feel now.

You mean blackmail?

Of course that isn't as bad…...?????

Yeah I'm going to go with Russell on this one, that would have been a terrible idea…

**249K Blackmail offence**

(1) A person who makes any unwarranted demand with menaces:

(a) with the intention of obtaining a gain or of causing a loss, or

(b) with the intention of influencing the exercise of a public duty,

is guilty of an offence.

Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I hate this line coming out: Thinking about selling it to the daily mail to end his career.

It was deliberate sabotage. They knew he was drunk but still had it in for him - most unfortunate. They could have suggested he very handsomely compensate the woman for all the hassles with even a trip overseas for her. IF kept in house he could have been pressured into rehab. **I wonder how they feel now.**

Probably peeved that they only got $5k while the agency they sold it too got $60K. Hardly professional saboteurs.
 
@Russell said:
@Tiger Watto said:
The Roosters & NRL are gona cop it from social commentators if they attempt to treat this as a singular incident. I think once the 'Oh Mitchell' phase slows down, today & tomorrow we will see this broken down into individual actions and that will be messy for he NRL. If Dave Smith was still here, his contract would be torn up immediately. Lucky for him John Grant is not so serious.

One radio host has already made comment that this is 3-4 incidents in the space of 5 minutes, and a slap on the wrists isn't gona cut it. They stated the unwanted advance on the female is harassment, disrespectful and a common occurrence with footballers whose governing body has a policy on such matters; the simulated sex act as vial and disgusting; and then he urinated on himself due to his drunken state, going on to question what happened before and after this 5 minutes on video.

Uncle Nick must be working overtime to sweep this under the carpet.

Naaah! Watto - tell ole Mate Nick to get a vacuum cleaner and suck it up. LOL

Choc mundane has pulled the racism angle
 
@Nelson said:
@innsaneink said:
Coke stays in your system for between 2-4 days.
Good time to split

Yeah if those texts turn out to be legit that is extremely convenient timing. They could try a hair test when he gets back, they can give results over months not just days.

This is where the NRL falls down badly. You would think the first thing the integrity unit would do in any of these type of cases would be to organize drug tests. Lack of policy? Or burying their head in the sand and hope it goes away.
 
@Defiant said:
Between the alleged text screen shot of the video taker ,alleged NRL player outing this person completed by another alleged nrl player threatening trouble … it's certainly a story that keeps on giving. :roll

The best part about all this is that WT are no longer the medias whipping boy.
 
They could not get him out of the country quick enough. A couple of days ago this was just a bad look for Pearce,The Chooks and The NRL, now it is starting to smell of something a lot worse.

You would have thought he would have been still in the country when the official findings are made public, but it seems he had to go and in a hurry, it is obvious he had something to hide.

The question will now be answered who planned this escape route and were the three stakeholders all involved
 
@diedpretty said:
@Defiant said:
Between the alleged text screen shot of the video taker ,alleged NRL player outing this person completed by another alleged nrl player threatening trouble … it's certainly a story that keeps on giving. :roll

The best part about all this is that WT are no longer the medias whipping boy.

I agree, and not a lot heard from Phil Rothfield. :smiley:
 
I don't think who leaked the photos, text etc. is the issue here. That is another issue altogether.

The issue is, what Pearce did to bring the game into disrepute AGAIN! Multiple indescrepancies in this incident on top of previous form amounts to, too many chances for mine.

People are saying this type of thing went on (and far worse as well) in the 60's, 70,s and 80's but that wasn't made known etc. No it wasn't because there was no social media to splash it everywhere. People knew but there were only a handful of people who were aware and because it was not splashed everywhere it did not bring the game into disrepute. There being worse incidents or lesser incidents, doesn't make this any better or more acceptable.

I believe the League has been working hard to improve it's image over the last few years; they have succeeded to a point until idiots take it all back to square one. Domestic violence incidents are a whole different ball game IMO and should have their own penalties.

This is not the first time this guy has made a fool of himself, his friends and the game he supposedly loves. It does need to stop. Uncle Nick coming up with some marshmellow options does not cut it I am afraid. He wields too much power behind the scenes and gets too many idiots off from the penalties they should be facing. This should not be taken lightly and a pathetic insincere apology taken into account when determining a penalty.

It does not matter how good or bad a player is - whether he plays in lower grades or the NRL - the incident should stand alone. This guy is not a cleanskin and that should be taken into account. If cocaine was involved as mentioned somewhere above, and it can be proved (little chance of that if he has left the country - nothing to hide, don't need to leave) that makes it a whole lot more unacceptable.

I do not think we need people in our game that carry on like this, that are not good role models for the children of supporters of the game. or of those thinking of supporting the game (wouldn't want to now I am sure - doesn't take much to turn people off).

I think monetary fines are useless (same as speeding fines) no matter what the amount - you have to make the penalty fit the crime. The NRL and Roosters have been fined much more than Pearce could be fined - What price dragging the Roosters and NRL name through the mud again. So we are looking at game time at a minimum (not just a few scabby weeks by the way) and up to a total ban from the game, for life. I favor the latter myself, even for a second rate half back.
 
Would a penalty of deducting 4 or 6 points from the club the person plays for before or during the season be worthwhile ?
This would send a clear message from the NRL, that whichever club, brings the game into disrepute, will be punished as well.
Also the person responsible gets a minimum mandatory 1 year ban. Regardless of who they are.

This may seem a little harsh, but it could also make people think twice about their accountability.
 
@westTAHger said:
Would a penalty of deducting 4 or 6 points from the club the person plays for before the season starts be worthwhile ?
This would send a clear message from the NRL, that whichever club, brings the game into disrepute, will be punished as well.
Also the person responsible gets an mandatory 1 year ban. Regardless of who they are.

Way too easy to manipulate TAH, and how good would it be for the unscrupulous if they could get one of their main competitors behind the eight ball before the season starts.

On the fence as far as Pearce goes, but recreational drug use wise, well it is a fact of life for the majority of people and was not the demon Ice, with alcohol being the main problem, just as it so often is..
 
@Russell said:
I don't think who leaked the photos, text etc. is the issue here. That is another issue altogether.

The issue is, what Pearce did to bring the game into disrepute AGAIN! Multiple indescrepancies in this incident on top of previous form amounts to, too many chances for mine.

People are saying this type of thing went on (and far worse as well) in the 60's, 70,s and 80's but that wasn't made known etc. No it wasn't because there was no social media to splash it everywhere. People knew but there were only a handful of people who were aware and because it was not splashed everywhere it did not bring the game into disrepute. There being worse incidents or lesser incidents, doesn't make this any better or more acceptable.

I believe the League has been working hard to improve it's image over the last few years; they have succeeded to a point until idiots take it all back to square one. Domestic violence incidents are a whole different ball game IMO and should have their own penalties.

This is not the first time this guy has made a fool of himself, his friends and the game he supposedly loves. It does need to stop. Uncle Nick coming up with some marshmellow options does not cut it I am afraid. He wields too much power behind the scenes and gets too many idiots off from the penalties they should be facing. This should not be taken lightly and a pathetic insincere apology taken into account when determining a penalty.

It does not matter how good or bad a player is - whether he plays in lower grades or the NRL - the incident should stand alone. This guy is not a cleanskin and that should be taken into account. If cocaine was involved as mentioned somewhere above, and it can be proved (little chance of that if he has left the country - nothing to hide, don't need to leave) that makes it a whole lot more unacceptable.

I do not think we need people in our game that carry on like this, that are not good role models for the children of supporters of the game. or of those thinking of supporting the game (wouldn't want to now I am sure - doesn't take much to turn people off).

I think monetary fines are useless (same as speeding fines) no matter what the amount - you have to make the penalty fit the crime. The NRL and Roosters have been fined much more than Pearce could be fined - What price dragging the Roosters and NRL name through the mud again. So we are looking at game time at a minimum (not just a few scabby weeks by the way) and up to a total ban from the game, for life. I favor the latter myself, even for a second rate half back.

Good post Russell.
 
@bp tiger said:
just heard that pearce went overseas, cause he just landed a part in LASSIE. BOOM BOOM

101 Dalmations was the inflight movie .
Qantas staff said that Pearce had to be restrained :laughing:
 
@innsaneink said:
@Russell said:
@Tiger Watto said:
The Roosters & NRL are gona cop it from social commentators if they attempt to treat this as a singular incident. I think once the 'Oh Mitchell' phase slows down, today & tomorrow we will see this broken down into individual actions and that will be messy for he NRL. If Dave Smith was still here, his contract would be torn up immediately. Lucky for him John Grant is not so serious.

One radio host has already made comment that this is 3-4 incidents in the space of 5 minutes, and a slap on the wrists isn't gona cut it. They stated the unwanted advance on the female is harassment, disrespectful and a common occurrence with footballers whose governing body has a policy on such matters; the simulated sex act as vial and disgusting; and then he urinated on himself due to his drunken state, going on to question what happened before and after this 5 minutes on video.

Uncle Nick must be working overtime to sweep this under the carpet.

Naaah! Watto - tell ole Mate Nick to get a vacuum cleaner and suck it up. LOL

Choc mundane has pulled the racism angle

Does that surprise you Ink.?..I thought he would of thrown that in a lot earlier…. :unamused:
 
@hobbo2803 said:
@bp tiger said:
just heard that pearce went overseas, cause he just landed a part in LASSIE. BOOM BOOM

101 Dalmations was the inflight movie .
Qantas staff said that Pearce had to be restrained :laughing:

Latest reports he is out in undies the forecast is to rain cats and dogs
 
@formerguest said:
@westTAHger said:
Would a penalty of deducting 4 or 6 points from the club the person plays for before the season starts be worthwhile ?
This would send a clear message from the NRL, that whichever club, brings the game into disrepute, will be punished as well.
Also the person responsible gets an mandatory 1 year ban. Regardless of who they are.

but recreational drug use wise, well it is a fact of life for the majority of people and was not the demon Ice, with alcohol being the main problem, just as it so often is..

Craig Field and Kevin McGuiness were suspended by the NRL for a whole season for admitting using illegal recreational drugs back in 01 or 02 weren't they? Funny how the NRL came down on those 2 blokes like a tonne of bricks but Pearce is allowed to slink out of the country thus escaping any thorough investigation into his alleged drug use.
It really does depend on which club you play for in the NRL when it comes to handing out punishment. The NRL stinks.
 

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