Brooks.... what is he good for??

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@bigsiro said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180606) said:
How we all gonna feel about Madge if he doesn’t drop Brooks?

Brooks doesn’t need to be dropped just moved.
 
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180628) said:
One thing I found interesting at HT in the Souths game, we got the penalty and Brooks wanted to kick for touch. Reynolds just stood waiting. Doueihi says something and Brooks hesitates. Dou says something again, Brooks gestures at the sideline again, then points up for what would have been "a bomb". Dou says something again, Brooks looks to the sideline, gestures to the corner again and then lines up for his kick.

And I'm wondering to myself why doesn't he just go and kick it already, why is he listening to the fullback for hail-mary that he'll have to kick on minute 40. Just take the ball and kick it.

Gave some insight into exactly how much control Brooks has of his side - either he hesitated because he wasn't sure, or because people were trying to get in his ear.

And I'd say that's my major criticism of Brooks, though I am not overly critical, is he hesitates a little too often and it can cost him in critical moments. Cooper Cronk is a Grade-A knob, but I don't think I ever saw him flinch or hestitate.

Yeah good point. Noticed that a couple times in the game. He sees something and sets up for it and the ball doesn’t come to him.
His clearly not got the confidence of the side, mostly by fault of his own meek on field personality.
Maybe if he was captain he would be respected but really a leader doesn’t need a title to be a leader.
Harry Grant was asked if he felt a shift in the side when Benji came on. He said well yeah, he was very loud directing us around and being vocal about what he wanted. Been doing it the last 3 weeks at training to.
What? Harry Grant is 22. Brooks is 26. Why doesn’t he feel senior enough to direct Harry around the park and lead training.
They say you train how you play and that my friends is how it is, atm.
 
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180628) said:
One thing I found interesting at HT in the Souths game, we got the penalty and Brooks wanted to kick for touch. Reynolds just stood waiting. Doueihi says something and Brooks hesitates. Dou says something again, Brooks gestures at the sideline again, then points up for what would have been "a bomb". Dou says something again, Brooks looks to the sideline, gestures to the corner again and then lines up for his kick.

And I'm wondering to myself why doesn't he just go and kick it already, why is he listening to the fullback for hail-mary that he'll have to kick on minute 40. Just take the ball and kick it.

Gave some insight into exactly how much control Brooks has of his side - either he hesitated because he wasn't sure, or because people were trying to get in his ear.

And I'd say that's my major criticism of Brooks, though I am not overly critical, is he hesitates a little too often and it can cost him in critical moments. Cooper Cronk is a Grade-A knob, but I don't think I ever saw him flinch or hestitate.

You are definitely over thinking it... brooks talked to Doueihi about what play they were gonna do for the last play of the half, what’s wrong with that? Would you rather him just wing it and no one knows what’s going on? There’s no rush in a situation like that
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180423) said:
Apparently if Reynolds didn’t get suspended brooks was a good chance of being dropped... but it’ll be him and Benji in the halves next week I reckon.

I know some people seem to think Benji stifles brooks game but I think he seems more comfortable with Benji there next to him for whatever reason. Maybe it’s just coincidence

A lot of people think Benji stifles Brooks game however I am not one of them. I agree he is more comfortable with Benji there. Brooks plays better when he is not the organizing half and Benji compliments him in that regard. You cant have two dominant halves together, it just does not work. Look at Moses / Norman at Parramatta together. The came last.
Brooks just had a poor game. It was not his first and wont be his last. Several coaches have seen fit to extend his contract so they must see something in his game. Next year hopefully we will have a younger organizing type five eight who can supplement his game.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180640) said:
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180628) said:
One thing I found interesting at HT in the Souths game, we got the penalty and Brooks wanted to kick for touch. Reynolds just stood waiting. Doueihi says something and Brooks hesitates. Dou says something again, Brooks gestures at the sideline again, then points up for what would have been "a bomb". Dou says something again, Brooks looks to the sideline, gestures to the corner again and then lines up for his kick.

And I'm wondering to myself why doesn't he just go and kick it already, why is he listening to the fullback for hail-mary that he'll have to kick on minute 40. Just take the ball and kick it.

Gave some insight into exactly how much control Brooks has of his side - either he hesitated because he wasn't sure, or because people were trying to get in his ear.

And I'd say that's my major criticism of Brooks, though I am not overly critical, is he hesitates a little too often and it can cost him in critical moments. Cooper Cronk is a Grade-A knob, but I don't think I ever saw him flinch or hestitate.

You are definitely over thinking it... brooks talked to Doueihi about what play they were gonna do for the last play of the half, what’s wrong with that? Would you rather him just wing it and no one knows what’s going on? There’s no rush in a situation like that

Brooks gestures to the sideline more than once. Doueihi speaks more than once. How many times do they need to discuss it? Brooks immediately shaped to kick for touch but he hesitated twice.

I am asking why he didn't act more decisively. He's the halfback, he didn't need to discuss with Doueihi what he's doing. The rest of the team seemed pretty clear what he was doing.
 
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180702) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180640) said:
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180628) said:
One thing I found interesting at HT in the Souths game, we got the penalty and Brooks wanted to kick for touch. Reynolds just stood waiting. Doueihi says something and Brooks hesitates. Dou says something again, Brooks gestures at the sideline again, then points up for what would have been "a bomb". Dou says something again, Brooks looks to the sideline, gestures to the corner again and then lines up for his kick.

And I'm wondering to myself why doesn't he just go and kick it already, why is he listening to the fullback for hail-mary that he'll have to kick on minute 40. Just take the ball and kick it.

Gave some insight into exactly how much control Brooks has of his side - either he hesitated because he wasn't sure, or because people were trying to get in his ear.

And I'd say that's my major criticism of Brooks, though I am not overly critical, is he hesitates a little too often and it can cost him in critical moments. Cooper Cronk is a Grade-A knob, but I don't think I ever saw him flinch or hestitate.

You are definitely over thinking it... brooks talked to Doueihi about what play they were gonna do for the last play of the half, what’s wrong with that? Would you rather him just wing it and no one knows what’s going on? There’s no rush in a situation like that

Brooks gestures to the sideline more than once. Doueihi speaks more than once. How many times do they need to discuss it? Brooks immediately shaped to kick for touch but he hesitated twice.

I am asking why he didn't act more decisively. He's the halfback, he didn't need to discuss with Doueihi what he's doing. The rest of the team seemed pretty clear what he was doing.

I agree! This is where brooks needs to lift . I think he has SOO type talent but he just needs to tell certain people to be quiet . Like Doueihi for example . I’ve seen Doueihi over ride him a few times in the game . You can see the shape down a certain side then the ball goes to douiehi down the other . There has to be a “I’m the halfback give me the god damn ball “ call. Too many times you see this . If Brooksy gets overrid , and it’s a crap call he should absolutely blast the person who did it . And Madge should back him.
But alas that’s not his go. If it was , most of the whinging would go away I reckon
 
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180702) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180640) said:
@jirskyr said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180628) said:
One thing I found interesting at HT in the Souths game, we got the penalty and Brooks wanted to kick for touch. Reynolds just stood waiting. Doueihi says something and Brooks hesitates. Dou says something again, Brooks gestures at the sideline again, then points up for what would have been "a bomb". Dou says something again, Brooks looks to the sideline, gestures to the corner again and then lines up for his kick.

And I'm wondering to myself why doesn't he just go and kick it already, why is he listening to the fullback for hail-mary that he'll have to kick on minute 40. Just take the ball and kick it.

Gave some insight into exactly how much control Brooks has of his side - either he hesitated because he wasn't sure, or because people were trying to get in his ear.

And I'd say that's my major criticism of Brooks, though I am not overly critical, is he hesitates a little too often and it can cost him in critical moments. Cooper Cronk is a Grade-A knob, but I don't think I ever saw him flinch or hestitate.

You are definitely over thinking it... brooks talked to Doueihi about what play they were gonna do for the last play of the half, what’s wrong with that? Would you rather him just wing it and no one knows what’s going on? There’s no rush in a situation like that

Brooks gestures to the sideline more than once. Doueihi speaks more than once. How many times do they need to discuss it? Brooks immediately shaped to kick for touch but he hesitated twice.

I am asking why he didn't act more decisively. He's the halfback, he didn't need to discuss with Doueihi what he's doing. The rest of the team seemed pretty clear what he was doing.

So what? He didn’t kick the footy instantly that means literally nothing. He talked to Doueihi probably because Doueihi was the main target for the kick. Nothing wrong with your spine players talking to each other
 
Well if he was calling the shots ‘all the plays, whether, it is him recieving the ball or going to Josh,’ he could come up with a name for a ‘halfback over call’ but while he sits back and calls “mine” like his waiting for a bomb to fall his not going to be able to override anyone.
If he does it the way he currently ‘organises’ the team it’s pretty obvious to the other team the ball will go to him and he will be under pressure.
What I don’t get is his play in the last 15mins why did he ask for / touch the ball more times within the set in then, then he did in the first 65mins, stand on both sides of the ruck and pass left and right, turning his forwards and backs over and under and shifting to benji etc.
It seemed that in the first 10min of Marshall being on the field he ran into halfback. Then when Grant came on the field Brooks arced up and tried to be the halfback.
I don’t get it. Did Benji get out there and give him a subtle serve?
Or did was he expecting to come off when Grant came back on and the fact he wasn’t pulled gave him the confidence to run the side?
 
When Pearce or Mann go left they can hit Ponga or Best.

Moses or Brown can hit Jennings or Sivva.

You gain a lot of confidence with that firepower at your disposal,
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180725) said:
When Pearce or Mann go left they can hit Ponga or Best.

Moses or Brown can hit Jennings or Sivva.

You gain a lot of confidence with that firepower at your disposal,

Your missing the point. Ball players need runners to hit outside them and the forwards to lay a platform.
But Brooks should win it on his own
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180608) said:
@bigsiro said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180606) said:
How we all gonna feel about Madge if he doesn’t drop Brooks?

Fine.

Edit; was meant to be in reply to @bigsiro

That he knows we don't have another ready for the top grade to replace him with, nor anywhere near his ability.
 
@formerguest said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180761) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180608) said:
@bigsiro said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180606) said:
How we all gonna feel about Madge if he doesn’t drop Brooks?

Fine.

Edit; was meant to be in reply to @bigsiro

That he knows we don't have another ready for the top grade to replace him with, nor anywhere near his ability.

True.
Brooks’s best attributes are that he is a strong defensive half and has a good running game.
Both are attributes of a forward or a back.
Not a halfback.
He is not a good kicker, passer or game manager.
I suggest we would be better with another forward who is a proper tackling machine or another back who is a better runner.
Not even being facetious.
 
@bigsiro said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180921) said:
@formerguest said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180761) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180608) said:
@bigsiro said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180606) said:
How we all gonna feel about Madge if he doesn’t drop Brooks?

Fine.

Edit; was meant to be in reply to @bigsiro

That he knows we don't have another ready for the top grade to replace him with, nor anywhere near his ability.

True.
Brooks’s best attributes are that he is a strong defensive half and has a good running game.
Both are attributes of a forward or a back.
Not a halfback.
He is not a good kicker, passer or game manager.
I suggest we would be better with another forward who is a proper tackling machine or another back who is a better runner.
Not even being facetious.

He got a good pass on him but think Madge got him running too much and he looking confused.

Would of been good if he got Daley or someone clearly needs help
 
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180020) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1179949) said:
@gallagher said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1179945) said:
1 try assist for the year is petty damning stat

It’s unbelievable. He’s had a terrible year and last night his performance was indefensible.

His cutout ball put Mbye away to pass to Hoffman . He gets zilcho for that , and Mbye gets the try assist for the draw and pass . There’s at least 5 -6 others like that this year .
You guys are just sitting there waiting for a Bad game to prove your point . Bunch of agenda driven douche bags

Waiting for a bad game, god give me strength, I am waiting for him to have a good game
 
@happy_tiger said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180498) said:
@rustycage said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180411) said:
It boggles the mind to think that it seems the majority of people that have had a gutfull of Brooks so desperately want Marshall as the alternative. The very bloke that has proven time and time again he can't lead a team to finals football, is hit and miss with his attack and is atrocious defensively. It's never Benji's fault. But it's always Brooks fault.

I don't want Benji or Reynolds ...time for a massive upgrade and major overhaul

Exactly Happy, we have tried and tried that combo, stop flogging a dead horse, bring in 2 new halves
 
@851 said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180937) said:
@Strongee said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1180020) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1179949) said:
@gallagher said in [Brooks\.\.\.\. what is he good for??](/post/1179945) said:
1 try assist for the year is petty damning stat

It’s unbelievable. He’s had a terrible year and last night his performance was indefensible.

His cutout ball put Mbye away to pass to Hoffman . He gets zilcho for that , and Mbye gets the try assist for the draw and pass . There’s at least 5 -6 others like that this year .
You guys are just sitting there waiting for a Bad game to prove your point . Bunch of agenda driven douche bags

Waiting for a bad game, god give me strength, I am waiting for him to have a good game

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