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@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301142) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301141) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

Censorship doesn’t change minds so you’ll be shocked to know I haven’t given up on my views and suddenly agree with the world according to Willow

You call it sensorship - I call it trolling and looking for a reaction. Either way, find somewhere else do to it.

Stinks of censorship.
 
New cases and locations currently being announced in the Wollongong area, specifically around Austinmer and Thirroul.
 
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

I completely disagree with the conspiracy theory garbage , but banning him ? What’s the go with that ? Shouldn’t it be open to discuss , and therefore disprove. Smarter people than you or I , swear that the opinion of your enemy has just as much value as the opinion of your friend . Sometimes more so .
It’s none of my business , but what if someone puts up an article about Scientology ? How does that get rated ? Like where is the line ? Because that has as much ground in reality as a story about a bloke who walked on water , and turned water in wine , and arose from the dead . Or that the coronavirus is all a hoax . Especially when this is the thread about coronavirus .
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301152) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

I completely disagree with the conspiracy theory garbage , but banning him ? What’s the go with that ? Shouldn’t it be open to discuss , and therefore disprove. Smarter people than you or I , swear that the opinion of your enemy has just as much value as the opinion of your friend . Sometimes more so .
It’s none of my business , but what if someone puts up an article about Scientology ? How does that get rated ? Like where is the line ? Because that has as much ground in reality as a story about a bloke who walked on water , and turned water in wine , and arose from the dead . Or that the coronavirus is all a hoax . Especially when this is the thread about coronavirus .

Well said Strongee . It's an open forum. He has said nothing warranting a ban.
 
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301153) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301152) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

I completely disagree with the conspiracy theory garbage , but banning him ? What’s the go with that ? Shouldn’t it be open to discuss , and therefore disprove. Smarter people than you or I , swear that the opinion of your enemy has just as much value as the opinion of your friend . Sometimes more so .
It’s none of my business , but what if someone puts up an article about Scientology ? How does that get rated ? Like where is the line ? Because that has as much ground in reality as a story about a bloke who walked on water , and turned water in wine , and arose from the dead . Or that the coronavirus is all a hoax . Especially when this is the thread about coronavirus .

Well said Strongee . It's an open forum. He has said nothing warranting a ban.

I hate blocking and banning people . I’d rather have a fight / arguement / debate with someone . Because then, like what happens the other day , you can get various perspectives , and correct some thoughts or behaviours your may have been doing . And a lot of the time you feel validation because of these opposing views . It’s all relevant . You need bad ideas to point a way to the good ones . Otherwise you just have ideas , and no idea whether they’re good bad or indifferent.
 
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts.

COVID is an example because there is indisputable evidence that people are dying.

You’re referencing beliefs, not facts.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301154) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301153) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301152) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

I completely disagree with the conspiracy theory garbage , but banning him ? What’s the go with that ? Shouldn’t it be open to discuss , and therefore disprove. Smarter people than you or I , swear that the opinion of your enemy has just as much value as the opinion of your friend . Sometimes more so .
It’s none of my business , but what if someone puts up an article about Scientology ? How does that get rated ? Like where is the line ? Because that has as much ground in reality as a story about a bloke who walked on water , and turned water in wine , and arose from the dead . Or that the coronavirus is all a hoax . Especially when this is the thread about coronavirus .

Well said Strongee . It's an open forum. He has said nothing warranting a ban.

I hate blocking and banning people . I’d rather have a fight / arguement / debate with someone . Because then, like what happens the other day , you can get various perspectives , and correct some thoughts or behaviours your may have been doing . And a lot of the time you feel validation because of these opposing views . It’s all relevant . You need bad ideas to point a way to the good ones . Otherwise you just have ideas , and no idea whether they’re good bad or indifferent.

Do we have to re-tread the rationale every time this payaso gets banned? It's all been said before when he was last sent to the bin...
 
@nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301168) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301154) said:
@gallagher said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301153) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301152) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301108) said:
@curly_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301105) said:
@willow said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301081) said:
Any more links to rubbish such as the original post I deleted will result in the offending member taking a permanent break from this site.

Is it just any article which isn’t in line with the almost unanimous view in here that will result in censorship? Are you that certain you are right and that this information was wrong?

Surely we are clever enough and confident enough to read the information and make our own conclusions?

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned”
- Richard Feynman

Anyone with half a brain knows what you're posting is rubbish and you'd think you would have learned after spending a week on the sidelines for posting such nonsense. But hey, if you want to tempt fate, go right ahead and post something else made up by some conspiracy theorist backed up with no evidence - because I'll sure as hell make sure you don't do it again on this forum.

I completely disagree with the conspiracy theory garbage , but banning him ? What’s the go with that ? Shouldn’t it be open to discuss , and therefore disprove. Smarter people than you or I , swear that the opinion of your enemy has just as much value as the opinion of your friend . Sometimes more so .
It’s none of my business , but what if someone puts up an article about Scientology ? How does that get rated ? Like where is the line ? Because that has as much ground in reality as a story about a bloke who walked on water , and turned water in wine , and arose from the dead . Or that the coronavirus is all a hoax . Especially when this is the thread about coronavirus .

Well said Strongee . It's an open forum. He has said nothing warranting a ban.

I hate blocking and banning people . I’d rather have a fight / arguement / debate with someone . Because then, like what happens the other day , you can get various perspectives , and correct some thoughts or behaviours your may have been doing . And a lot of the time you feel validation because of these opposing views . It’s all relevant . You need bad ideas to point a way to the good ones . Otherwise you just have ideas , and no idea whether they’re good bad or indifferent.

Do we have to re-tread the rationale every time this payaso gets banned? It's all been said before when he was last sent to the bin...

Why not . Especially when the punishment for debating it , is we too will go to the bin.
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301167) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .

People are brown bread mate they ain’t coming back tomorrow
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301172) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301167) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .

People are brown bread mate they ain’t coming back tomorrow

Huh ? I’m just talking about banning people . And using hypotheticals to prove a philosophical point . Of course covid is real . But banning someone who doesn’t think so , rather than making them see reason , or at least try and help to plant some ideas in thier head , well it’s pretty indicative of the rest of the world . No matter which side of the fence you sit , you just want to shit opposing world views down . There’s zero interest in debate . I’m right your wrong ! Until I’m proven wrong , then it’s your fault I’m wrong . Lol it’s head scratching .
 
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301176) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301172) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301167) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .

People are brown bread mate they ain’t coming back tomorrow

Huh ? I’m just talking about banning people . And using hypotheticals to prove a philosophical point . Of course covid is real . But banning someone who doesn’t think so , rather than making them see reason , or at least try and help to plant some ideas in thier head , well it’s pretty indicative of the rest of the world . No matter which side of the fence you sit , you just want to shit opposing world views down . There’s zero interest in debate . I’m right your wrong ! Until I’m proven wrong , then it’s your fault I’m wrong . Lol it’s head scratching .

Somebody can make them see sense in the real world. Good luck. No need to spread dangerous ideas in a public domain.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301182) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301176) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301172) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301167) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .

People are brown bread mate they ain’t coming back tomorrow

Huh ? I’m just talking about banning people . And using hypotheticals to prove a philosophical point . Of course covid is real . But banning someone who doesn’t think so , rather than making them see reason , or at least try and help to plant some ideas in thier head , well it’s pretty indicative of the rest of the world . No matter which side of the fence you sit , you just want to shit opposing world views down . There’s zero interest in debate . I’m right your wrong ! Until I’m proven wrong , then it’s your fault I’m wrong . Lol it’s head scratching .

Somebody can make them see sense in the real world. Good luck. No need to spread dangerous ideas in a public domain.

I literally just explained why it is necessary .
 
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@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301176) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301172) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301167) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301164) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301162) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301157) said:
@strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301156) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1301155) said:
There is a virus killing people. It’s not up for discussion. To discuss otherwise is endangering lives. We are in the fortunate position that most of Australia aren’t morons.

That’s a bad attitude . Everything is up for discussion, because if you don’t , that’s how bad ideas begin . We should always be pulling ourselves apart , and putting it back together . I’m not saying listen to that garbage idea , but like I said bad ideas are just as important as good ones . How do you know which way the compass points otherwise . Like what’s your reference ?

A fact is a fact. Do we want to end up like America?

If your saying a fact is truth , then no it isn’t . Nor is a fact today guaranteed to be a fact tomorrow. For instance the world being flat . For Millenia they thought that until , pythagoras . What about if I say the success rate for surviving covid is 90 something percent . That’s a fact . It totally dismissed the millions dying of it , or the various deadly strains . But it’s still a fact . What about how we all thought that covid only affected people with weak immune systems like the elderly ? that was a fact . Wasn’t a solid one , but still .
A bad idea , is only a bad idea in reference to all the good ideas . Sure this is a bad idea , but how do you know that until you start to cross check it with information . That’s all I’m saying .
Ok I’ll give you a more messed up version of this. In places like Boston it was a bad idea to go against the church , and it was a known fact that the priest were the voice of god . So they would send thier kids off to them ..... and we all know the end result of that . Everything should be questioned . Sometimes for a half a second , sometimes for years and years . It’s all relative

Those aren’t examples of facts. This is.

Haha ? What . Those were facts for the time period they were in . 1 example is a fact for today . Your using recency to disprove , this , which actually proves what I’m saying . Science is always changing . The world is constantly moving . What’s known today as fact , has no guarantee to be a fact tomorrow. So if the goal is to find truth , then bad ideas are needed as much as good ones , because most good ideas were rejected as bad ideas at the beginning . That’s it .

People are brown bread mate they ain’t coming back tomorrow

Huh ? I’m just talking about banning people . And using hypotheticals to prove a philosophical point . Of course covid is real . But banning someone who doesn’t think so , rather than making them see reason , or at least try and help to plant some ideas in thier head , well it’s pretty indicative of the rest of the world . No matter which side of the fence you sit , you just want to shit opposing world views down . There’s zero interest in debate . I’m right your wrong ! Until I’m proven wrong , then it’s your fault I’m wrong . Lol it’s head scratching .

Somebody can make them see sense in the real world. Good luck. No need to spread dangerous ideas in a public domain.

I literally just explained why it is necessary .

Society generally works because the majority of us observe rules and regulations based on common sense. I can’t come on here and swear because it will have negative consequences. I’m fine with that.

It’s been decided you can’t come on here and spread dangerous conspiracies that can harm society. I’m fine with that too.
 
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