Coronavirus Outbreak

[coivtny]

I am not a GP, Specialist or Scientist. I am a concerned parent of two and a citizen of Australia. I choose to follow people who are experts in their field not keyboard warriors. I want my freedom back and those of my family and friends. If experts believe two jabs can mitigate the severity of a virus that can not be erraticated then I am happy to respect their decision. Wife and I had AZ jab last week and next one mid Sept. We will get through this tough times but we all need to step up for the sake of each other. Not really much to ask. My 52nd birthday today so hope WT can Jag a win.

Many happy returns mate. Like you, I've had one AZ jab and will line up for the second one on September 1.

 

[swag_tiger]

There's still people who believe there's no such thing as COVID19 and believe that they can crack the government if they don't listen to them or the laws that are inplace. They say this has had less deaths them the common flu and there's a reason there has been no flu cases. They don't take into consideration that it's so low due to the lockdown. Sadly this is a war of 2 sides.

 

[Guest]

England is looking good now:-

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights

Some interesting figures:-

9 out of 10 people have antibodies.
468 deaths this week
Hospital admissions down
Infections are high
75% vaccination rate

Look at the deaths. That is a success story.

It would be interesting to hear from @Kul since he's living there and has been vaccinated.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

 

[Guest]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I don't disagree with what you are saying - standards should be consistent, and if you're going to be out and about - do the right thing. The irony is this outbreak started in the Eastern suburbs and the lockdown clearly worked there as it made its way to the South Western and western suburbs.

Wonder how much of a difference the demographic and different lifestyle may attribute to the success of a lockdown?

 

[Tiger5150]

There's still people who believe there's no such thing as COVID19 and believe that they can crack the government if they don't listen to them or the laws that are inplace. They say this has had less deaths them the common flu and there's a reason there has been no flu cases. They don't take into consideration that it's so low due to the lockdown. Sadly this is a war of 2 sides.

Its true those people are out there, I know a couple but luckily I think that they in such a small minority it wont actually matter. If we can get to 70-80% vaxxed they are shut out and I think that the song will change for some.

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

 

[Tiger5150]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I don't disagree with what you are saying - standards should be consistent, and if you're going to be out and about - do the right thing. The irony is this outbreak started in the Eastern suburbs and the lockdown clearly worked there as it made its way to the South Western and western suburbs.

Wonder how much of a difference the demographic and different lifestyle may attribute to the success of a lockdown?

I made a joke of this to a mate of mine in Vaucluse. Giving it to him that him and his mates started this mess. To which he replying "yeah but we just did what we were told and it was over here in a week". Hard to argue with.

 

[hank37w]

Increase to fines and 5km distance from home for all of Sydney.

It will be interesting to see if that has an effect. NSW Police going through the extra enforcement powers now...

Yeah, let's shut the gate now that the thousands of horses in the paddock have run to the far corners of the state, from Byron Bay to Broken Hill.

The Dubbo situation is akin to Sydney having well over five thousand cases on the third day of it's outbreak.

A head needs to roll and not that of Dr Chant who's advice was not taken, but little doubt the spin doctors are busy preparing.

Gold standard Gladbags

Fool's Gold mate.

 

[Pascoes_barber]

I am not a GP, Specialist or Scientist. I am a concerned parent of two and a citizen of Australia. I choose to follow people who are experts in their field not keyboard warriors. I want my freedom back and those of my family and friends. If experts believe two jabs can mitigate the severity of a virus that can not be erraticated then I am happy to respect their decision. Wife and I had AZ jab last week and next one mid Sept. We will get through this tough times but we all need to step up for the sake of each other. Not really much to ask. My 52nd birthday today so hope WT can Jag a win.

Good stuff, and happy birthday mate. Fingers crossed the buys can show some fight tonight.

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I don't disagree with what you are saying - standards should be consistent, and if you're going to be out and about - do the right thing. The irony is this outbreak started in the Eastern suburbs and the lockdown clearly worked there as it made its way to the South Western and western suburbs.

Wonder how much of a difference the demographic and different lifestyle may attribute to the success of a lockdown?

I think it made a huge difference. I made a comment a week or two ago about the demographics and socio-economics of the areas leading to different outcomes for different areas of Sydney. I firmly believe it has been a major factor.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I don't disagree with what you are saying - standards should be consistent, and if you're going to be out and about - do the right thing. The irony is this outbreak started in the Eastern suburbs and the lockdown clearly worked there as it made its way to the South Western and western suburbs.

Wonder how much of a difference the demographic and different lifestyle may attribute to the success of a lockdown?

Been the same for all plagues and viruses throughout history, with demographics playing a huge role.

We have done a good job up until now in keeping it out of our most vulnerable communities. So fingers crossed this doesn't run through some indigenous communities now that it has gotten a foot in the door.

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I don't disagree with what you are saying - standards should be consistent, and if you're going to be out and about - do the right thing. The irony is this outbreak started in the Eastern suburbs and the lockdown clearly worked there as it made its way to the South Western and western suburbs.

Wonder how much of a difference the demographic and different lifestyle may attribute to the success of a lockdown?

Been the same for all plagues and viruses throughout history, with demographics playing a huge role.

We have done a good job up until now in keeping it out of our most vulnerable communities. So fingers crossed this doesn't run through some indigenous communities now that it has gotten a foot in the door.

That's the really scary thing. I worry with so many underlying health issues in indigenous communities that, if COVID gets hold in them, it could lead to thousands of deaths. I hope there is a massive effort put into vaccinating at risk communities out west including children.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

The 5km rule is interesting. I've just read the latest health regulation and it says you can travel anywhere within your own LGA but a 5km from your home rule applies if you want to travel outside your LGA. So I live at Forresters Beach and can keep doing that walk even though I end up nearly 10kms from home at The Entrance because I don't leave my LGA.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

The 5km rule is interesting. I've just read the latest health regulation and it says you can travel anywhere within your own LGA but a 5km from your home rule applies if you want to travel outside your LGA. So I live at Forresters Beach and can keep doing that walk even though I end up nearly 10kms from home at The Entrance because I don't leave my LGA.

Okay, I thought they tightened it to 5km from your home during the briefing. In that case I can still drive some 70km to Patonga which is equally ridiculous.

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

The 5km rule is interesting. I've just read the latest health regulation and it says you can travel anywhere within your own LGA but a 5km from your home rule applies if you want to travel outside your LGA. So I live at Forresters Beach and can keep doing that walk even though I end up nearly 10kms from home at The Entrance because I don't leave my LGA.

Okay, I thought they tightened it to 5km from your home during the briefing. In that case I can still drive some 70km to Patonga which is equally ridiculous.

Agree.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Extremely dissapointed about the cases

At the rate we r going oct public holiday is def gonna be a closed one..very annoying

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

The 5km rule is interesting. I've just read the latest health regulation and it says you can travel anywhere within your own LGA but a 5km from your home rule applies if you want to travel outside your LGA. So I live at Forresters Beach and can keep doing that walk even though I end up nearly 10kms from home at The Entrance because I don't leave my LGA.

Okay, I thought they tightened it to 5km from your home during the briefing. In that case I can still drive some 70km to Patonga which is equally ridiculous.

it is 5km from your home
my local golf course the cops were there checking ID and fining people 5km from home residence

 

[coivtny]

Watching a live report from Coogee with hardly a mask in sight and some wonder why this thing continues to spread to other areas.

But, if these people are outside they're not breaking the rules. It's not in an LGA of concern. Or, have I got it wrong?

More so that I cannot believe that there hasn't been a universal mask mandate.

The let's have a different rule for this side of the street because it is in this LGA and one for the other side that's in the neighbouring one, which in the next week or so will likely have the same rule because it has spread there is ridiculous. As is expecting the population of the former to do more than their neighbour is required to, or at the very least not be angered by such.

Leave your home or vehicle and put a mask on, uniform and simple.

I agree with you with regard to uniformity but I don't support masks being worn everywhere. I hate wearing a mask but wear one wherever it's mandated. I do an 8km power walk every day. I walk around Tuggerah Lake from Long Jetty to The Entrance and return. I do the walk in about 60 minutes which is pretty rapid and is good for my mental and physical health. I probably pass by 30 - 50 people when I walk and give them as wide a berth as possible. I couldn't physically do that walk with a mask on. I've tried and just can't draw in enough oxygen.

A nice walk just south from me, with Long Jetty having the first set of traffic lights that I come across on that drive.

I wouldn't want to wear a mask power walking, but hey, I don't want to do that either. We have a lot of bush or water separating us from the Sydney basin, but within that area they have rules set by arbitrary lines drawn on a map. The virus doesn't recognise council boundaries.

Similarly with the 5km rule, happy to abide by it, but the difference in areas is plain to see, with the basically empty 5km plus just north of The Entrance area you mentioned. I have an Aldi, woollies and Coles just inside my radius but some nearby affected by the same rule won't.

The 5km rule is interesting. I've just read the latest health regulation and it says you can travel anywhere within your own LGA but a 5km from your home rule applies if you want to travel outside your LGA. So I live at Forresters Beach and can keep doing that walk even though I end up nearly 10kms from home at The Entrance because I don't leave my LGA.

Okay, I thought they tightened it to 5km from your home during the briefing. In that case I can still drive some 70km to Patonga which is equally ridiculous.

it is 5km from your home
my local golf course the cops were there checking ID and fining people 5km from home residence

It's not. Unless you are living in one of the LGAs 'of concern', if you stay within your LGA you're OK. 5km only applies if you move outside your LGA. This is an excerpt from the SMH:
"The 10-kilometre rule in place in Greater Sydney will be cut to five kilometres from 12.01am on August 16. Shopping, exercise and outdoor recreation must be done in your local government area, or within five kilometres of home if leaving your LGA."