JD Tiger
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@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516887) said:@nrlsurvivor said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516884) said:@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516881) said:@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516853) said:@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516802) said:@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1516800) said:Sorry guys but please enlighten me, the Newcastle cluster are they all vaxed people? If they are, wasn’t the vaccine supposed to reduce transmission - it obviously hasn’t done its job well because it has spread like wildfire
I'd go so far to say it will definitely reduce transmission. That doesn't mean it will stop it.
You have to stop looking at COVID and the vaccine through this lens that the vaccine stops it completely and saves everyone's life. It doesn't do that.
So far it is been hugely beneficial though. We've done really well with Delta and it's basically because of our high vaccination rates. Without that high vaccination rates it would have been an unmitigated disaster.
As well as reducing transmission, vaccination greatly reduces the severity of the virus if it is contracted, and there is a pretty good chance that if it doesn't die out soon that we will all contract it at some stage.
Some of us may get it at some stage and not even know that we had it, which is most likely to occur in people who are fully vaccinated.
Yeah sure, case numbers are up but this is not being reflected in the number of hospital cases and especially in the all important ICU case numbers.
It makes sense that if this latest variant of the virus is extremely contagious and as we continue to open up more that the case numbers will rise.
It is also logical that many of those that contract the virus will be fully vaccinated simply due to sheer numbers involved because the fully vaccinated out number those that are not vaccinated by well over 9 to 1.
My opinion is case numbers are going to go ballistic. The question is will that lead to increased hospitalization and ICU numbers.
In South Africa the virus appears mild with most people in hospital with COVID as incidental cases - i.e. they are in hospital with something else.
I read today that the number of cases in ICU in NSW at the moment is at its lowest point since July. Vaccination is doing its job in reducing hospitalisation. If this stays the same then we don’t need more lockdowns. The big question is whether or not it will stay the same once omicron takes hold and unvaccinated people are free. It’s too early to tell.
With many people becoming eligible for 3rd dose and increased herd immunity when 5-12s start getting vaccinated from Jan 10 we should be in a good position from around Feb onwards. The concern is what happens between now and then. IMO ATAGI should consider allowing 3rd doses earlier than the current 5 month rule… I’m scheduled for a holiday in early Jan which I’ve already postponed twice. I’ll be annoyed if another lockdown stops the holiday from going ahead.
Tough times my friend. Your fellow vaxed collegues are spreading it at the moment.
How do you figure? If vaccinated people are spreading the disease because they're out and about, aren't the non-vaccinated people doing the same thing?