Crawley Warning - ripping us to shreds

Nothing has changed, same dribble from Crawley, just a different target.

Found this gem of an article by the drop kick from last year when the Bulldogs were his favourite target for negative press. The guy has such a narrow minded approach to journalism, only ever finding fault and rubbishing clubs for practically the same thing year in, year out. Never says anything good, just feels it’s his God given purpose in life to bag clubs and tell them how wrong they’ve got their recruitment and retention. The part about Mbye is absolutely priceless! He’s been such a big loss for the Dogs 😂

Paul Crawley, NRL, The Daily Telegraph

March 28, 2019 8:28am


For years, Canterbury have been getting their retention and recruitment horribly wrong. What’s worse, it doesn’t look to be getting any better.

Here’s a squad of 30 players let go in recent years now lining up with NRL rivals.
Let’s start with Moses Mbye, who will run out against his former club as Wests Tigers fullback and captain at Campbelltown this Sunday.

On the wings, you have Brett Morris and Corey Thompson.
Centres Josh Morris and Tim Lafai.
Josh Reynolds five-eighth, Aidan Sezer half.

Throw David Klemmer and James Graham into the front row, and that still leaves Aaron Woods, Lachlan Barr, Herman Ese’ese, James Gavet and Leilana Latu fighting for bench spots.

Damien Cook would be hooker, with Parramatta’s exciting youngster Reed Mahoney back-up.

Shaun Lane and Marty Taupau make a handy back-row, with Dale Finucane at lock.

Brenko Lee also spent time at the Bulldogs.

It wasn’t so long ago the Bulldogs had Klemmer and Graham.
Others include Blake Green, Brad Abbey, Craig Garvey, Frank Winterstein, Lloyd Perrett, Trent Hodkinson, Tyrone Phillips, Adam Keighran, Richie Kenner and Bailey Simonsson.

I know there is no way the Bulldogs could or should have kept them all, and a lot of these decisions were made under Des Hasler’s watch.
But let’s isolate the five that left last year under the current administration.

Mbye, the Morris twins, Klemmer and Woods are all Origin-class players.
As Wayne Bennett once told me, the best advice he took in his early days from Don Furner at Canberra was that you don’t let players go unless you have better ones to replace them.

I also would love to have a look at who is getting paid what now, especially with the new players brought to the club, because I am growing sick of the excuses regurgitated that this was all Hasler’s doing.

In fairness to Hasler, he wasn’t given the chance to see through his plan, and he did make two grand finals in six years before he was punted to make way for Dean Pay.

Taupau came through the grades at Canterbury.

If you remember correctly, the reason Hasler was sacked was not because of the salary cap situation, but because people within the club didn’t like the style of football the Dogs were playing under Des.

Apparently, they’d lost their “DNA”.
So Pay was brought back on the promise of a return to the famous “Dogs of War” culture.

While the new administration didn’t sign Pay, they were talking of a contract extension before this season.

Could anyone really say with a straight face the Dogs are playing a better brand of footy now?
And just as some of Hasler’s decisions were questionable, why would Canterbury let the Morris boys go when they both signed for unders at rival clubs?

You only have to listen to Brett Morris talk about how he felt treated to understand there was more to it than money.

And the story goes Klemmer wanted out because of family reasons.
Do you reckon Bennett or Craig Bellamy would have let Klemmer walk?

Lane and Reynolds both came up at Canterbury. They would have found a way to make the star prop happy. Sydney is a big place.

And we saw what Bennett’s reaction was earlier this year when Parramatta came sniffing around George Burgess with a lucrative offer.

Bennett told them to bugger off.
I just don’t buy there wasn’t more behind Klemmer’s reason for wanting out. And Dylan Napa certainly wouldn’t have come cheap.

Last year the club told us of all the players that were on the market, only Klemmer and Josh Jackson were not for sale.Now Klemmer is killing it at Newcastle, while Jackson is left playing one-man-out, trying to lead the youngest NRL roster out of this mess.

And back to Mbye, who was reportedly told if he stayed he would be playing centre in 2019.
That came after one of the first decisions Pay made as coach was moving Mbye from the halves to fullback.

I still remember the first time I met Mbye during preseason in 2011.
Canterbury had hired a double-decker bus and filled it with players, staff and members of the media for a ride into the centre of Sydney to rally memberships.

How did the club miss on Damien Cook? Picture by Mark Evans.
Back then big Jamal Idris was the man all the supporters wanted a piece of.

But what I remember most about that day was how this young bloke who had travelled down from Noosa to kick off his rugby league career came over and plonked himself on the seat beside me.

Mbye was only 17 yet he whipped up a conversation that lasted pretty much the entire trip, and he was fascinating.I’d been told he had a stack of football potential, but what was most impressive was his personality.
You just knew the kid was a born leader.But the problem for the Bulldogs is that by the time Mbye was ready to take on such a role, the club flicked him.
Yet Michael Maguire, a premiership winning coach, saw enough in Mbye in three months that he made Mbye his captain, ahead of other senior leaders like Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah, Chris Lawrence and Russell Packer.Mbye was once counted as a future captain at Canterbury.

Worse still, the Bulldogs reportedly still pay a chunk of Mbye’s salary.
So again, what does this tell you about Canterbury’s current retention strategy?It makes no sense.And I really feel for the players in all this.

You can see they are giving their absolute all but they just don’t have the experience to match their opposition.

This week Pay made a stack of changes, and it was almost sold as if it was these young players who had dropped the ball.
But at what point does the current administration take responsibility for the direction the club is now heading in?

Surely they can’t keep blaming Des forever.

LOST DOGS

1. Moses Mbye 2. Brett Morris 3. Josh Morris 4. Tim Lafai 5. Corey Thompson 6. Josh Reynolds 7. Aidan Sezer 8. David Klemmer 9. Damien Cook 10. James Graham 11. Shaun Lane 12. Marty Taupau 13. Dale Finucane 14. Aaron Woods 15. Brenko Lee 16. Lachlan Burr
17. Herman Ese’ese 18. James Gavet 19. Reed Mahoney 20. Leilani Latu
Others: Blake Green, Bradley Abbey, Craig Garvey, Frank Winterstein, Lloyd Perrett, Trent Hodkinson, Tyrone Phillips, Adam Keighran, Richard Kennar, Bailey Simonsson
 
Yeah, Crawley is a deadset idiot. I'm sure he reads the forum and sees the hatred for him which would further fuel his vendetta against the tigers.
 
Sure, Crawley sucks and is kicking a club while down, but he's basically right. We're an easy target, but there's not much there I disagree with. He overdoes Doueihi a little because I don't think he was ever a certainty at fullback, more just a quality backline player. Everything else is fine and pretty accurate. Until we start winning we'll see these articles. The good news is that most players are happy to be paid best offer and not worried about what Crawley writes.
 
I went down down down to MajoraAndMinora Town and asked them . They were insulted to be associated with the Crawleys They said they’ve had the vax and there’s no way they would let them in.
 
So Crawley and FOX want to blast us for trying to move on over the hill players like Benji, Reynolds and Packer... yet no dramas with the Roosters pushing out a young up-and-comer in Flanagan who could actually come good with care and a bit of persistence?
 
@Moh said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1253281) said:
So Crawley and FOX want to blast us for trying to move on over the hill players like Benji, Reynolds and Packer... yet no dramas with the Roosters pushing out a young up-and-comer in Flanagan who could actually come good with care and a bit of persistence?

he's probably been into Rothfield's vanilla essence....

bet he said nothing about souths offloading Roberts....
 
@Moh said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1253281) said:
So Crawley and FOX want to blast us for trying to move on over the hill players like Benji, Reynolds and Packer... yet no dramas with the Roosters pushing out a young up-and-comer in Flanagan who could actually come good with care and a bit of persistence?

difference is roosters win and we lose.

when you win, no one will point out your mistakes. Similarly, when you lose, no one will point out the things you're doing right.
 
@Moh said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1253281) said:
So Crawley and FOX want to blast us for trying to move on over the hill players like Benji, Reynolds and Packer... yet no dramas with the Roosters pushing out a young up-and-comer in Flanagan who could actually come good with care and a bit of persistence?

It's the whole perception of him being a club legend and being treated poorly given his amazing form. It's unfortunate that his amazing form ended a decade ago. Somehow it's still front and center in Crawley's and a lot of others mind's. Personally, I don't consider the way he's conducted himself traits of a club legend. Maybe Bennett should sign him up to show his halves the way to lead the team around successfully.
 
Watching the final episode of NRL 360 it was interesting how the journalists mentioned they all have their favourite teams that they wouldn’t write anything negative about. Buzz loves the Storm, Hooper unashamedly said he’s a massive fan of Bennett. I suspect the successful clubs do a lot to manage their image by building relationships with the journos. We either struggle with this or don’t care... Wouldn’t surprise me if the rich clubs subsidise some of the journos salaries.
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254021) said:
Watching the final episode of NRL 360 it was interesting how the journalists mentioned they all have their favourite teams that they wouldn’t write anything negative about. Buzz loves the Storm, Hooper unashamedly said he’s a massive fan of Bennett. I suspect the successful clubs do a lot to manage their image by building relationships with the journos. We either struggle with this or don’t care... Wouldn’t surprise me if the rich clubs subsidise some of the journos salaries.

More like booze accounts with Dan Murphy’s and food vouchers at top restaurants!
 
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

No need to pay for anything start winning this all goes away .. No need for jurnos when your winning they start crawling through the front gate like slugs for interviews .. YOU DO NOT BEG!
 
@Snake said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254029) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

No need to pay for anything start winning this all goes away .. No need for jurnos when your winning they start crawling through the front gate like slugs for interviews .. YOU DO NOT BEG!

I think positive press is good we do have a good supporter base
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254031) said:
@Snake said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254029) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

No need to pay for anything start winning this all goes away .. No need for jurnos when your winning they start crawling through the front gate like slugs for interviews .. YOU DO NOT BEG!

I think positive press is good we do have a good supporter base

“Positive Press” doesn’t win footy games, I think the fan base understands this.
 
@TigerWest said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254039) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254031) said:
@Snake said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254029) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

No need to pay for anything start winning this all goes away .. No need for jurnos when your winning they start crawling through the front gate like slugs for interviews .. YOU DO NOT BEG!

I think positive press is good we do have a good supporter base

“Positive Press” doesn’t win footy games, I think the fan base understands this.

By positive press i don't mean the fluff pieces from nrl.com regarding Brooks and owning the team etc I mena positive press such as nrl360 and DT leaving us alone when it comes to Paps or coaching or walking on eggshells etc.

you can see the article coming out on Sunday if we dont resign Nofo
"Fan favourite forced out of club"

Other clubs do not get hammered like we do when we have a player that is awaiting being resigned by the club
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

Fact check ...... SMH And Telegraph Are always close on readership Numbers.

http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership

And we definitely should not crawl to ANY media outlet particularly the Murdoch hookers.
There are very good reason why the Tigers treat DT jurnos with distain and all you need to do is check their record of rubbish and misinformation they put in print about the club and what damage that has done to our brand.
No .... don’t give them nothing thanks.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254045) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

Fact check ...... SMH And Telegraph Are always close on readership Numbers.

http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership

And we definitely should not crawl to ANY media outlet particularly the Murdoch hookers.
There are very good reason why the Tigers treat DT jurnos with distain and all you need to do is check their record of rubbish and misinformation they put in print about the club and what damage that has done to our brand.
No .... don’t give them nothing thanks.

Yes SMH is not a league paper it is a Rah Rah leather patch brigade Rugby Union supporters paper. The journo's in SMH sport also do not have nrl 360 show either and SMH has opinion pieces from the bandana wearing Fitzsimon rugby through and through doesn't leave the North shore and Andrew Webster.

I hate Buzz and Hooper and Crawley but we can't fight these guys give them something sometimes is all. Murdoch and Foxtel are not going away
 
Rugby League supporters are treated like 2nd class citizens - at the hands of journos that can’t pronounce words correctly and can’t string a grammatical sentence together - but can pedal their vitriol to the masses without fear of persecution.
Even down to the spectator experience - most RL grounds are under flight paths and the irritation of low flying planes is annoying ... go to the cricket in any state and you’ll be able to enjoy and focus on the play without the droning noise if Boeings overhead.
Yeah, it’s cattle class for us.
 
who knows maybe SMH journo's may start own sports shows linked with 9 or Stan until that happens it is Murdoch and DT journo's fronting nrl 360
Brent Read seems pretty reasonable at Ausyralian when he is on nrl 360 maybe he shoukd be who we chanel positive stories with
 
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