Crawley Warning - ripping us to shreds

@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254050) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254045) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

Fact check ...... SMH And Telegraph Are always close on readership Numbers.

http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership

And we definitely should not crawl to ANY media outlet particularly the Murdoch hookers.
There are very good reason why the Tigers treat DT jurnos with distain and all you need to do is check their record of rubbish and misinformation they put in print about the club and what damage that has done to our brand.
No .... don’t give them nothing thanks.

Yes SMH is not a league paper it is a Rah Rah leather patch brigade Rugby Union supporters paper. The journo's in SMH sport also do not have nrl 360 show either and SMH has opinion pieces from the bandana wearing Fitzsimon rugby through and through doesn't leave the North shore and Andrew Webster.

I hate Buzz and Hooper and Crawley but we can't fight these guys give them something sometimes is all. Murdoch and Foxtel are not going away

What are you talking about, SMH / Fairfax and Channel 9 are the same company. Phil Gould writes for SMH.

SMH only has a small representation for rugby and it is a very heavily league paper, as any Sydney-based media outlet will be.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper
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@Jedi_Tiger said:
When we become a winning Team and make the 'Finals'
more often than we miss out....the criticism will stop and we wont have wasted money on tasteless bones, and tasteless bones have a tendency to become very tasty treats, such as $1100 bottles of wine.
Have a great day Jedi
 
@jirskyr said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254122) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254050) said:
@momo_amp_medo said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254045) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

Fact check ...... SMH And Telegraph Are always close on readership Numbers.

http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership

And we definitely should not crawl to ANY media outlet particularly the Murdoch hookers.
There are very good reason why the Tigers treat DT jurnos with distain and all you need to do is check their record of rubbish and misinformation they put in print about the club and what damage that has done to our brand.
No .... don’t give them nothing thanks.

Yes SMH is not a league paper it is a Rah Rah leather patch brigade Rugby Union supporters paper. The journo's in SMH sport also do not have nrl 360 show either and SMH has opinion pieces from the bandana wearing Fitzsimon rugby through and through doesn't leave the North shore and Andrew Webster.

I hate Buzz and Hooper and Crawley but we can't fight these guys give them something sometimes is all. Murdoch and Foxtel are not going away

What are you talking about, SMH / Fairfax and Channel 9 are the same company. Phil Gould writes for SMH.

SMH only has a small representation for rugby and it is a very heavily league paper, as any Sydney-based media outlet will be.

I get it jirsky you read SMH good luck to you if you do as for Phil Gould look at his commentary and comments re GF and chanel 9 in general most on hear watch nrl 360 which has the DT journos
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254123) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

@Jedi_Tiger said:
When we become a winning Team and make the 'Finals'
more often than we miss out....the criticism will stop and we wont have wasted money on tasteless bones, and tasteless bones have a tendency to become very tasty treats, such as $1100 bottles of wine.
Have a great day Jedi

Hey Magpies
Yes throw a bone was a bad expression by me i meant WT letting the DT journos sometimes getting a "scoop" we tend to talk more to the SMH and Michael Chamaras (not sure on spelling) share the PR around as we don't all read SMH or watch chanel 9 etc some do watch kayo and nrl360 and we could do with some positive pieces sometimes
 
@weststigerman said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254027) said:
We need to start winning games. The media will leave us alone if we can make finals for once.

Did Bulldogs get this sort of media when they running last or second last all year? The answer is no. I would love to make the finals in 2022 but not just to appease the low media types.
 
@momo_amp_medo said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254045) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

Fact check ...... SMH And Telegraph Are always close on readership Numbers.

http://www.roymorgan.com/industries/media/readership/newspaper-readership

And we definitely should not crawl to ANY media outlet particularly the Murdoch hookers.
There are very good reason why the Tigers treat DT jurnos with distain and all you need to do is check their record of rubbish and misinformation they put in print about the club and what damage that has done to our brand.
No .... don’t give them nothing thanks.


yes but the devil is in the detail for readership - the SMH is predominantly an eastern suburbs paper, great readership along the coast and low everywhere else. DT is the exact opposite. Sunday telegraph smashes everything.

[added in edit]

EMMA is the official readership source, not Roy Morgan. Look at the sport section data, SMH 179 vs DT 228 VS ST 339 (in thousands).

[end edit]

My take is that we are hopeless at controlling the stories so we don't engage, this is rubbish as it leaves fans open to innuendo and rumours. Probably half the reason we have such an active base on social media, but even to the fans, there is nothing from the clubs.

Im pretty tired of getting nothing from the club until its general knowledge - that's not any way to treat anyone let along fgabns and paid up members. Our media team and engagement is shockingly bad
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254140) said:
Bulldogs come second last and Broncos last and they don't cop the crap we cop as a club


But maybe Wests Tigers score more click-bait for a reason.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254140) said:
Bulldogs come second last and Broncos last and they don't cop the crap we cop as a club


bulldogs do, maybe not now as the journos love the coach, Broncos are owned by News Corp.

we are a clean club, many good stories, yet we refuse to build our brand. Its a joke
 
@tiger_one said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254141) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254140) said:
Bulldogs come second last and Broncos last and they don't cop the crap we cop as a club


But maybe Wests Tigers score more click-bait for a reason.


maybe because we don't get any information and are desperate for some
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254127) said:
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254123) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254026) said:
We need to make amends with DT somewhat i think
"Independent Always" aka SMH is ok but
A. Nobody reads it, it is not a working man's / league paper
B. They do not have a TV show on fox league

Clubs probably pay for favourable articles i know racing used to do that in DT they would pay for positive space.

Fact is we have Fox sports and DT journo's on fox and it is not going away, we need to throw a bone occasionally not to Buzz but maybe Kent or Hooper

@Jedi_Tiger said:
When we become a winning Team and make the 'Finals'
more often than we miss out....the criticism will stop and we wont have wasted money on tasteless bones, and tasteless bones have a tendency to become very tasty treats, such as $1100 bottles of wine.
Have a great day Jedi

Hey Magpies
Yes throw a bone was a bad expression by me i meant WT letting the DT journos sometimes getting a "scoop" we tend to talk more to the SMH and Michael Chamaras (not sure on spelling) share the PR around as we don't all read SMH or watch chanel 9 etc some do watch kayo and nrl360 and we could do with some positive pieces sometimes

Hey Jedi : I wasn't having a go at you Mate, certainly not with you being a Jedi and all. We need more decent people like you on here.
"bad expression"....I know all about that, as some people ( me for example) read into what you say is what 'they' believe.
As Leo Tolstoy said recently...."The simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.
Have a peaceful day Jedi.
 
I've wondered for years and never really been given a clear answer to this. Do the club have anyone in-house working on PR or do we engage an external PR company. If we don't then its an absolute shambles as negative press can affect membership numbers and corporate sponsorship.

We need to get ahead of the negative stories and control the narrative.

One great example of this was earlier this year when the current NSW coach was quoted in the media as saying the Tigers should be prime for relocation as we have no fan base. As well as being factually incorrect it was a highly inappropriate thing to say about a member club and the club really should have challenged him on it. Instead we got silence and the idea was allowed to grow and fester. As a member I found this grossly insulting.

If we had a decent PR team you'd hope they would have been all over this.
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254140) said:
Bulldogs come second last and Broncos last and they don't cop the crap we cop as a club

WT sell papers or get clicks.
Remember when Britney made the headlines for shaving her head bald and tabloids exploited the crap out of it?
Well we are Britney or even the Miley Cyrus of the NRL world and Crawley and co are like every typical tabloid journo - only good for gossip-mongering. But it's becoming popcorn worthy at this point.
Like others have stated, we overturn the onfield success and the narrative changes.
I'd be more concerned if we faded into oblivion.
 
Like the rest of his NRL hack colleagues, this moron is not, and has never been a real journalist. His opinions, such as they are, are accordingly worthless as a legitimate critique of WT or of any other team or player.
 
@Newtown said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254129) said:
@weststigerman said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254027) said:
We need to start winning games. The media will leave us alone if we can make finals for once.

Did Bulldogs get this sort of media when they running last or second last all year? The answer is no. I would love to make the finals in 2022 but not just to appease the low media types.

Yes they did. Don't you remember all the board stuff with Lynn Anderson? I wasn't paying much attention to it, because I didn't care, but it was certainly there.
 
Simple answer ..some finals appearances ...a couple of top line signings...continued corporate governance ..remaining financially stable and stopping some of the stupidity that has happened at the top end ....ie Marina Go's Ides of March moment , Farahgate , Clearygate , Taylorball , having 2.5 million basically bench bound for over half of their contracts

Journos don't need to look at hard at the WT's ...we hand a lot of stuff on a platter to them
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254140) said:
Bulldogs come second last and Broncos last and they don't cop the crap we cop as a club

no one has copped more than Broncos have this year

the team suprisingly away from the spotlight this year is Manly- most had them in the top 4 this year.
 
@weststigerman said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254175) said:
@Newtown said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254129) said:
@weststigerman said in [Crawley Warning \- ripping us to shreds](/post/1254027) said:
We need to start winning games. The media will leave us alone if we can make finals for once.

Did Bulldogs get this sort of media when they running last or second last all year? The answer is no. I would love to make the finals in 2022 but not just to appease the low media types.

Yes they did. Don't you remember all the board stuff with Lynn Anderson? I wasn't paying much attention to it, because I didn't care, but it was certainly there.

to be fair the bulldogs have had a good chunk of negative publicity slung at them over the years....even to the point of reporters allegedly hiring a cherry picker to snoop on their mad monday celebrations at the pub in the rocks
 
We were the media darlings back in 2010. We featured heavily on the sports programs through Benji involvement in the footy show. Got his mate on Beau Ryan and next thing you know Heighno was in the segment as a regular as well. It peeved plenty of other fans who suggested we got favours on the field too.
We have to suck it up and get ourselves back to where we should be.
 

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