Has Valandys ruined the game?

[Tcat]

Not a fan atm. Don't think the game was that bad before. I like a single ref, the high shot rules need a look at but the 6 again is crap and should go.

 

[izotope]

Teams with the Star Talent are the ones loving it
Manly with Tommy Turbo
Pamfers with Chin and Laui
Slimmeys with [This word has been automatically removed],Gutho and Brown
Souffs with Latrine ,Walker and Reynolds
Storm with Paps Hynes Munster JAC
These players only need half a chance to create something because there is a mile of room out there the attacking team gets all 50/50 calls and the toughness has been taken out it.

Well 2019 ladder before 6 again was 1. Melb 2. Roosters 3. Souths 5. Eels 6.Manly.

Scores might be blowing out more but hasn't really effected the W/L column

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Teams with the Star Talent are the ones loving it
Manly with Tommy Turbo
Pamfers with Chin and Laui
Slimmeys with [This word has been automatically removed],Gutho and Brown
Souffs with Latrine ,Walker and Reynolds
Storm with Paps Hynes Munster JAC
These players only need half a chance to create something because there is a mile of room out there the attacking team gets all 50/50 calls and the toughness has been taken out it.

Well 2019 ladder before 6 again was 1. Melb 2. Roosters 3. Souths 5. Eels 6.Manly.

Scores might be blowing out more but hasn't really effected the W/L column

True but it's made those a lot harder to beat

 

[the_third]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.

ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

 

[cochise]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

 

[mike]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

 

[cochise]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

You would need to allow striking in the ruck to get a genuine contest for possession.

 

[diedpretty]

Lets see how this clown turns around the total debacle the game has become. Either he has an agenda to reduce the number of teams or he has no idea what he is doing. I have no doubt when he introduced all these crazy changes he thought it would improve the game but unfortunately he has created a monster that is now out of control. I think he is such an egotistical SOB that he will never admit that he made mistake and he appears to rule with an iron fist. I fear that by the time he is ousted it will be too late to turn things around.

 

[the_third]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

fair play

 

[mike]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

You would need to allow striking in the ruck to get a genuine contest for possession.

Maybe they can put the ball in the middle of scrums again and have a genuine contest for the ball in the scrum as well. Then you would need real hookers rather than pseudo hookers.

 

[diedpretty]

Don’t get bitter. Get better.

Thats total rubbish

 

[the_third]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

You would need to allow striking in the ruck to get a genuine contest for possession.

Maybe they can put the ball in the middle of scrums again and have a genuine contest for the ball in the scrum as well. Then you would need real hookers as well.

as long as we don't have a game where it's all about errors. Striking in the ruck should be allowed. Stripping is great - imagine if we brought in real hookers as well....

 

[diedpretty]

I relly dont know what i think. My interest has been waning for a few years but that's because I follow a club that can't compete. I still have a high interest in top of the table clashes, semis and origin.

I enjoyed the Manly game today but probably would have turned off if it was 10-8 slugfest. Ratings will tell the story.

You must be a Big Brother fan - that wasn't football.

 

[diedpretty]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

I was thinking the same thing reading the posts.

 

[Spartan117]

VLandys....

The businessman has been brilliant.

The rules changer has been miserable.

I hate what the game has become and the stupidities around the protecting the head is well intentioned but atrociously inconsistent.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…

Manly won 2nd half 48-nil!!!Makes last nite look terrible as opposed to disatrous!!

Yes and remembering Broncos were done 46-0 on Thursday night as well, nearly as big a margin as our 50.

On the question of V’Landys ruining the game, I say without a doubt! Who’d have though there could be anyone worse than Turdberg? Unless it’s all in his future plans for a revamped comp, minus a few Sydney teams.

 

[diedpretty]

I started another thread not realising this one was up - maybe mods can merge it - what i posted was


Lets see how this clown turns around the total debacle the game has become. Either he has an agenda to reduce the number of teams or he has no idea what he is doing. I have no doubt when he introduced all these crazy changes he thought it would improve the game but unfortunately he has created a monster that is now out of control. I think he is such an egotistical SOB that he will never admit that he made mistake and he appears to rule with an iron fist. I fear that by the time he is ousted it will be too late to turn things around.

 

[tigger]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

You would need to allow striking in the ruck to get a genuine contest for possession.

Maybe they can put the ball in the middle of scrums again and have a genuine contest for the ball in the scrum as well. Then you would need real hookers rather than pseudo hookers.

Real hookers and real props.

The game has devolved to turnovers coming from errors. It really pisses me off to hear crowds cheering because someone has dropped the ball, or to see teams high-fiving because an opponent failed to play the ball properly (whoopee) . Apart from the strip, there is really no contest for the ball.

Both the scrum and the play-the-ball were once contests and I wouldn't mind to see that reinstated in our game.

Yep, I know, scrum penalties were a lottery. But let's face it, so are 6 agains.

 

[Chainlink]

I don’t mind that Vlandys has taken an approach of rapid change. However, he needs to keep applying this agile approach including accepting when things a are NOT working out. The pendulum has swung too far and he needs to undo some changes to being it back a peg.

 

[cochise]

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…


absolutely "the product" has ruined the game. V'Landys is the one who has done this.

It's a sport and a contest is the entertainment, a contest for the ball. Look at the NFL, they have a genuine contest for the ball on more plays than not, AFL, same thing.

When a comp is over 3-4 weeks in for most of the teams, he should address the bigger problems before he changed the rules for entertainment.

It needs to be thought of as a sport first, not entertainment. This is where he failed massively

What odds we have more changes coming next year.

Genuine contest for the ball in the NFL?


yes, well when its thrown and not run. It's a contest for the ball.

Not really, the average turnovers for game is 2.6. I hardly call that a contest for possession.


ok so they just run straight and the ball just gets passed to them?. Turnovers don't illustrate a contest for the ball.

Tell me where the contest for etc ball is in our game? ours is a game about errors and field position.

Even the Euros are better watching that the garbage we get served up every weekend

Turnovers include intercepts and fumbles, so there may appear to be a genuine contest for the ball, but in reality the defence is trying to disrupt the play and not gain possession.

All that doesn't really relate to what we are talking about anyway, just didn't think the NFL was a good example for a genuine contest for possession.

Rugby League hasn't had a contest for possession for 25 years, the new rules haven't changed that, just made it easier for the team with possession to keep the ball for longer.

Maybe we should go back to the unlimited tackle rule. 😉

You would need to allow striking in the ruck to get a genuine contest for possession.

Maybe they can put the ball in the middle of scrums again and have a genuine contest for the ball in the scrum as well. Then you would need real hookers rather than pseudo hookers.

They are phasing scrums out.