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I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.
 
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@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1257398) said:
The cumulative impact of losing Koroibete, Simona, JAC has been underestimated. Imagine a WTs' backline with those three players present. There us no substitute for genuine pace and the ability to finish. Any club would suffer from these losses.

Recruitment at its worst. Just one of them stayed would be good. Except simona imo he shouldn’t be talked about as a loss

Simona should not be talked about period... just an absolute LOWLIFE.

....and he wasn't that good either.

Rubbish. Simona was a very good footballer. He made some poor decisions but is entitled to forgiveness.

Simona was an excellent player. Just a terrible person

He had a gambling addiction - not sure that equates to being a terrible person. He made some bad choices related to that but he has paid a heavier price for his errors - more so than most players who have done wrong.

Um didn’t he do hundreds of members out of thier hard earned , for a fake Signed jersey or something . Ah , pretty sure that makes him a bad person.

Gambling addictions are hideous and destroy lives and yet our governments profits off it. You tell me who is worse.

So do our clubs
 
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.


Whats more they have no real understanding of building a winning culture. You cant achieve it by giving away good players who have come through your system for some shinny new piece from a club like the Storm.
 
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.
 
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1257867) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.


Whats more they have no real understanding of building a winning culture. You cant achieve it by giving away good players who have come through your system for some shinny new piece from a club like the Storm.

Exactly my point mate, we need to build on our current base not go backwards on it.
 
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

Which guys can play centre though better than Talau. No doubt JAC improves our team but if we lose Talau to get him without at least someone as good coming through the nett gain is insignificant. So who replaces Talau in your opinion.
 
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1257877) said:
Just got word from Hartigan regarding the rumour about us pulling our JAC rumour. Says it’s news to him

did he give ya anything else?
 
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257878) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

Which guys can play centre though better than Talau. No doubt JAC improves our team but if we lose Talau to get him without at least someone as good coming through the nett gain is insignificant. So who replaces Talau in your opinion.

Talau didn’t impress me at centre at all. Momirovski can do a solid job there, Doueihi can play if he’s not at 5/8 too.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..
 
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1257877) said:
Just got word from Hartigan regarding the rumour about us pulling our JAC rumour. Says it’s news to him


They mightn't pull it but they would know by now they are next to no chance.
 
@hsvjones said in [JAC](/post/1257883) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

I'm with you mate... Players like JAC don't come knocking at our door very often and when they do you need to act on it.. Current Rep player in his prime with speed for a guy like Tommy that could sign elsewhere this time next year and we end up with a duck egg.. This way we get JAC for 4 years and will assist in other top line players coming to us.. Don't get me wrong Tommy has shown some skill but not in the class of JAC..

But he is committed to the club where the other guy left us.

Culture, its important.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257882) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257878) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

Which guys can play centre though better than Talau. No doubt JAC improves our team but if we lose Talau to get him without at least someone as good coming through the nett gain is insignificant. So who replaces Talau in your opinion.

Talau didn’t impress me at centre at all. Momirovski can do a solid job there, Doueihi can play if he’s not at 5/8 too.

I’m the opposite. Momo tried hard but never really showed anything game breaking. Talau showed glimpses.

It’s almost like momo thought too much at times or something like that, maybe didn’t trust himself and that he had strength. Can’t really put my finger on it. Still a good player, much respect for his comeback after a terrible start.
 
@the_third said in [JAC](/post/1257891) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257882) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257878) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257874) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257870) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1257869) said:
@beachtiger said in [JAC](/post/1257860) said:
I don’t understand the mindset of some in wanting to give Talau or Nofo to jet JAC. What you are saying is you want us to weaken one position (wing or centre) to increase strength in another position (fullback)!

If we were to give Talau or Nofo to Storm who do we have that replaces them that are as good or better? All we would be doing is shuffling pieces on the chess board with minimal nett gain.

I applaud the club for their stance, I see no significant gain in that deal. We are much better off holding onto our stronger players and building around them instead of swapping them for a small return.

Has Talau really been that good? He’s looked solid. He played mostly wing and AJ looks a better winger than Tommy. JAC is miles ahead of tommy.

I don’t disagree with your comment at all but if we move him on to get JAC who replaces Talau? At this stage I don’t see anyone in our team that is as good or better than him therefore the benefit of a swap negates itself.

AJ on the wing, bunch of different guys can play centre, JAC at fullback.

Which guys can play centre though better than Talau. No doubt JAC improves our team but if we lose Talau to get him without at least someone as good coming through the nett gain is insignificant. So who replaces Talau in your opinion.

Talau didn’t impress me at centre at all. Momirovski can do a solid job there, Doueihi can play if he’s not at 5/8 too.

I’m the opposite. Momo tried hard but never really showed anything game breaking. Talau showed glimpses.

It’s almost like momo thought too much at times or something like that, maybe didn’t trust himself and that he had strength. Can’t really put my finger on it. Still a good player, much respect for his comeback after a terrible start.

I thought Talau was better on the wing. He’s not particularly fast, he hasn’t shown much footwork or great line running. He looks solid but don’t see much X factor in him. Maybe with more experience and confidence we will see it more I hope
 
If JAC comes then we have him at FB, Noga nad AJ on the wing, Mbye and BJ in the centres with Momorovski, Talua, Cini, Bradley as the outside back so why woukdnt we swap Talau
 
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1257877) said:
Just got word from Hartigan regarding the rumour about us pulling our JAC rumour. Says it’s news to him

Tell him to get the deal done please 😩
 
Talau will be better in the long run but Momirovski is better currently. Answer to that question isn't so much to do with age, but more that Momo has been in 2 elite systems, and Talau has been in 2 terrible ones.
 
Tommy is still a kid and he has held his own, he hasn't really had a break out game to show his talent yet but obviously he is held in high regard. He is still growing I just hope he doesn't lose to much pace as he gets bigger.
 
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