Jacob Liddle #198

[AJ1]

Do you also have soft spots for Canterbury Bulldogs and Epping Hotel?

Bulldogs no.. let's just leave it at that. Come back to me when you're a premiership winner big man

This is either the best parody account on here or you're the real deal. Either way, thank you sir

Ps. Always rated Halatau better than that derek Fulton

 

[Merlot]

the gig is up derek,all kettles calling pot black willbe unmasked

 

[Camel2281]

Liddle is in the Cook type model, fast and usually good service from dummy half. Not the Cameron Smith type player, tempo and game controller. Please people compare apples with apples.
I believe as stated before his passing and timing will improve this year, as he gets more used to his guns. If Madge learns how to use his bench more effectively?!?!?!

I'm sorry, he's not a candle on Cook for speed and Lids service is his biggest weakness (bigger weakness than his stamina)


Based on what?? Did u watch Cook when he played for the dogs?? I bet u didn’t, I did and he was very similar to liddle, except liddle had a better passing game! Cook was erratic, inconsistent and only came on for short bursts. Was considered a one trick pony, being his speed! He was lucky to get twenty minute a game.
Don’t come on here claiming to know everything about cook. Do u think he was a state of origin player, out of the rapper?
Please....

Hahaha I have known Damien since he was a kid and raced him and his brother in surf lifesaving. So yes I followed his career with interest and he was criminally underused by Des, behind Lichaa who was terrible.

Also what I said with regards to the comparison comment was he doesn't hold a candle to Cook for speed, which is factually correct. Go and check the Telstra tracker data from throughout the season. Liddle is quick off the mark but after a short distance he's running in quicksand, Cook is legitimately fast

 

[Alltheway]

Liddle is in the Cook type model, fast and usually good service from dummy half. Not the Cameron Smith type player, tempo and game controller. Please people compare apples with apples.
I believe as stated before his passing and timing will improve this year, as he gets more used to his guns. If Madge learns how to use his bench more effectively?!?!?!

I'm sorry, he's not a candle on Cook for speed and Lids service is his biggest weakness (bigger weakness than his stamina)


Based on what?? Did u watch Cook when he played for the dogs?? I bet u didn’t, I did and he was very similar to liddle, except liddle had a better passing game! Cook was erratic, inconsistent and only came on for short bursts. Was considered a one trick pony, being his speed! He was lucky to get twenty minute a game.
Don’t come on here claiming to know everything about cook. Do u think he was a state of origin player, out of the rapper?
Please....

Hahaha I have known Damien since he was a kid and raced him and his brother in surf lifesaving. So yes I followed his career with interest and he was criminally underused by Des, behind Lichaa who was terrible.

Also what I said with regards to the comparison comment was he doesn't hold a candle to Cook for speed, which is factually correct. Go and check the Telstra tracker data from throughout the season. Liddle is quick off the mark but after a short distance he's running in quicksand, Cook is legitimately fast

Again, wasn’t comparing time checks! Just saying they are similar styles of players. Not exactly the same speed, just more speed orientated! Read my posts more thoroughly, what has the great Simpkin shown that excites you haters so much?? Crashing over from dummy half to poor defence in reserve grade or throwing flat balls to big forwards a couple of meters from the line?? He may come good in time, but his body is tiny and he’s a couple of years off being ready for the grind! As stated by several others here, liddle is the best hooker in our squad currently. Just needs to be used better with the bench as Cook was at the start of his career! On for 30 minutes then of for 20-30 back in for the last 20-30! Not rocket science, but Madge is clueless with bench rotations.
Just give him the chance to get used to his bigger frame and his passing will improve this season.
I am just hoping that the attacking coach will be in charge of the bench rotation this year, not Cayless as he is useless, roosters don’t let good coaches just leave if they’re any good.

 

[barra]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

 

[sparci]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

I understand you think he's not ready for FG but your joking if you think he wasn't dominating in reserve grade, he was leading the comp in many departments.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

I understand you think he's not ready for FG but your joking if you think he wasn't dominating in reserve grade, he was leading the comp in many departments.

He just needs to be eased into first grade off the bench. He’s a talent we just need to build him slowly. Having Robbie around is great for this and it would be ideal to have a senior hooker on the field as well.

The big down side of having a Liddle/ Simpkin combo is that they are both finding there feet in first grade really.

 

[batboy]

Always cracks me up...
Simpkin goes OK in Ressies, And he's far superior to Liddle
Liddle absolutely brains them in Ressies, and He's far inferior to Simpkin.

Liddle by far outplayed Simpkin in First Grade, And Reserve Grade.... Hands down
That might not always be the case, But If we're playing in the park tomorrow and I'm picking one or the other,
I'm picking Liddle... If I'm looking to win of course.

 

[barra]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

I understand you think he's not ready for FG but your joking if you think he wasn't dominating in reserve grade, he was leading the comp in many departments.

I certainly didn't see all the reserve grade games but I didn't think he dominated in the games I saw - at least not like the really good players tend to. Just my opinion though, I know he has plenty of raps from plenty. And I'd be quite happy if he turns out to be the answer TBH.

 

[jrtiger]

I like Lids, but I actually think that trying to turn him into a starting hooker is completely wrong. in order for him to be the player we need him to be, we need him sniffing around a tired ruck and using his speed to his advantage, which we've seen he can do, he just doesn't do it consistently as he's gassed after 35 mins.

if we can be patient with Simpkin and develop him into the starter that sets the tone, injecting Lids into the game in the shadows of half-time could be a huge asset for us moving forward. he's on borrowed time with Simpkin, Rua and Anjoul snapping at his heels, needs to prove his worth.

 

[sparci]

Always cracks me up...
Simpkin goes OK in Ressies, And he's far superior to Liddle
Liddle absolutely brains them in Ressies, and He's far inferior to Simpkin.

Liddle by far outplayed Simpkin in First Grade, And Reserve Grade.... Hands down
That might not always be the case, But If we're playing in the park tomorrow and I'm picking one or the other,
I'm picking Liddle... If I'm looking to win of course.

Needs to learn to pass the ball. Till he can do that, he wouldn't be starting hooker for long in many other established teams.

 

[Goldust]

I like Liddle,he has his strengths.but he was a huge part of why our defence was bad this season ,not to mention how sloppy his passing game was at times.
Make or break for him in 22 we can’t afford to persist with a dummy half that is still developing his game.

 

[batboy]

Always cracks me up...
Simpkin goes OK in Ressies, And he's far superior to Liddle
Liddle absolutely brains them in Ressies, and He's far inferior to Simpkin.

Liddle by far outplayed Simpkin in First Grade, And Reserve Grade.... Hands down
That might not always be the case, But If we're playing in the park tomorrow and I'm picking one or the other,
I'm picking Liddle... If I'm looking to win of course.

Needs to learn to pass the ball. Till he can do that, he wouldn't be starting hooker for long in many other established teams.

He's passed the ball a whole bunch of times mate, They can't have all been terrible...

 

[barnzee]

Always cracks me up...
Simpkin goes OK in Ressies, And he's far superior to Liddle
Liddle absolutely brains them in Ressies, and He's far inferior to Simpkin.

Liddle by far outplayed Simpkin in First Grade, And Reserve Grade.... Hands down
That might not always be the case, But If we're playing in the park tomorrow and I'm picking one or the other,
I'm picking Liddle... If I'm looking to win of course.

Reggies

 

[sparci]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

I understand you think he's not ready for FG but your joking if you think he wasn't dominating in reserve grade, he was leading the comp in many departments.

I certainly didn't see all the reserve grade games but I didn't think he dominated in the games I saw - at least not like the really good players tend to. Just my opinion though, I know he has plenty of raps from plenty. And I'd be quite happy if he turns out to be the answer TBH.

And, this is, in my opinion, a terrific response. You made your position clear, backed it up with some evidence but was open-minded about how thing may transpire. We need more contributors like you.

So if the evidence is in favour of your agenda is terrific? Jog on.

May i add "evidence", with the quotation marks.

 

[hank37w]

How many shoulder reconstructions did Benji have

Least Benji could pass and kick a ball..

Yes. Was dangerous sitting in the first 3 rows

Except for when we got a penalty and he failed to find touch.

 

[sparci]

Jacob is currently our best hooker. Despite being accused of showing him 'all the love' those of us who do think he is out best are really only stating that. How accurate his passing is, how well he tackles... I guess you can focus on the positives or the negatives of every set he plays, but I don't see anything that can't be coached, trained or managed.
And honestly, Simpkin needs more time in ressies to reach his potential. We can't be relying on him to carry a major load and we saw last year that he is not capable. A couple of years who knows? But he hasn't exactly been lighting up ressies either.

I understand you think he's not ready for FG but your joking if you think he wasn't dominating in reserve grade, he was leading the comp in many departments.

I certainly didn't see all the reserve grade games but I didn't think he dominated in the games I saw - at least not like the really good players tend to. Just my opinion though, I know he has plenty of raps from plenty. And I'd be quite happy if he turns out to be the answer TBH.

And, this is, in my opinion, a terrific response. You made your position clear, backed it up with some evidence but was open-minded about how thing may transpire. We need more contributors like you.

So if the evidence is in favour of your agenda is terrific? Jog on.

May i add "evidence", with the quotation marks.

Well, @sparci, I don't have an agenda. I just have opinions based on observations gathered through long term commitments to the club. I'm sure you're the same.

The thing that was terrific about the response, unlike yours, was that it made the point clearly, gave a basis for his/her opinion ("I didn't see all the reserve grade games ...etc) but was humble enough to consider that things may ultimately be different. No spite, no "I'm right and you're wrong" grandstanding, no blinkered agenda.

Basically, it has everything that yours doesn't.

I dont know if you understand the meaning of the word 'fact'. I stated he was leading the comp in reserve grade stats for several parameters, thats fact. Nothing he said was 'fact'. Thats his opinion. Big difference. Granted I could be more humble in my opinion, I'll take that, but that was my first comment in this thread.