James Tedesco Signs with Roosters [Official]

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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Too right! And sign him for 6-7 years, I'm sure by that stage the cap will have gone up again & so will his value. We'd actually be saving $$ by then!

Who on earth would be a suitable replacement for Teddy?! He is the priority!

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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Do a list like I did of all the fullbacks in the NRL

Maybe two aren't real quality French , and to a lesser extent Coote

Even Newcastle have Ponga next season

I don't necessarily see a huge difference between the level of Tedesco and some that are probably 300 k less than him

300 k will pick up a handy key depth player on the market instead of an unproven league minimum prospect from our NYC side

And that's the difference in the end
 
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No offence but tigers fans and management really over rate their juniors and a hell bent on local development to the point it's has been the real reason for the teams failures the last half a decade.

Couldn't agree more - hopefully we're moving away from this stance.
I'm all for bringing through local kids, but we need to know when to persist and when to let go, and that's been sorely lacking over the past few years.
 
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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

I am glad you are not in charge of player retention there would be years of wooden spoons to collect
 
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No offence but tigers fans and management really over rate their juniors and a hell bent on local development to the point it's has been the real reason for the teams failures the last half a decade.

Couldn't agree more - hopefully we're moving away from this stance.
I'm all for bringing through local kids, but we need to know when to persist and when to let go, and that's been sorely lacking over the past few years.

Nothing wrong with it but u can't bank your future on it. Need to bring in seasoned first grade players. All the successful clubs do it. Even Brisbane with their junior base aren't stupid enough to bank their futures on it.
 
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Looks like he has signed with the roosters.

Just been on the phone with one of the major sponsors for the chooks. Dealings through work.

He let me know it's just been done.

He often let's me know what's going on with them and has always been on the money.

I'd imagine informing the sponsors of upcoming signings is every club's first instinct…

Couldn't have said it better :unamused:

Well sad day if that's the case. Couldnt believe it when we let him go once never thought it would happen twice.

Now up to a journalist to start attacking the bogus salary cap starting at the Roosters. Its like a big joke that everyone just sits back and accepts.

what if they are the ones providing the TPA?
 
A few year ago the Panthers cleaned out all of their "superstar" players and look how that has worked out for them. They are in a great position with players wanting to be there for the club, and in return the club seems to be looking after them….
No matter what happens, the club will still keep on ticking, potentially without the entitled "superstars" overvaluing their worth.....
Look at it this way, if the players didn't demand an excruciating amount of money to play a game they love, then it wouldn't cost us fans a fortune to see them play every week!!!!
Let's be honest, they aren't curing cancer or solving world hunger
 
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No offence but tigers fans and management really over rate their juniors and a hell bent on local development to the point it's has been the real reason for the teams failures the last half a decade.

Couldn't agree more - hopefully we're moving away from this stance.
I'm all for bringing through local kids, but we need to know when to persist and when to let go, and that's been sorely lacking over the past few years.

Nothing wrong with it but u can't bank your future on it. Need to bring in seasoned first grade players. All the successful clubs do it. Even Brisbane with their junior base aren't stupid enough to bank their futures on it.

The day we stop prioritising our juniors over others is the day I go on Stryker as a supporter. Not at all costs of course, bet even though long being a joint venture which includes the south west, it is still based on the districts junior football clubs and players, and always should be.
 
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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Do a list like I did of all the fullbacks in the NRL

Maybe two aren't real quality French , and to a lesser extent Coote

Even Newcastle have Ponga next season

I don't necessarily see a huge difference between the level of Tedesco and some that are probably 300 k less than him

300 k will pick up a handy key depth player on the market instead of an unproven league minimum prospect from our NYC side

And that's the difference in the end

I want Tedesco to stay but you are right here. We are talking about big money and I honestly think now that the most important thing to creating a winning team is cap management.

There are a lot of quality fullbacks. Teddy is great but does he even deserve the NSW SOO spot this year on form.
 
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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Do a list like I did of all the fullbacks in the NRL

Maybe two aren't real quality French , and to a lesser extent Coote

Even Newcastle have Ponga next season

I don't necessarily see a huge difference between the level of Tedesco and some that are probably 300 k less than him

300 k will pick up a handy key depth player on the market instead of an unproven league minimum prospect from our NYC side

And that's the difference in the end

I want Tedesco to stay but you are right here. We are talking about big money and I honestly think now that the most important thing to creating a winning team is cap management.

There are a lot of quality fullbacks. Teddy is great but does he even deserve the NSW SOO spot this year on form.

Can you please name the quality fullbacks you are talking about.
 
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If Tedesco does leave, is he the highest calibre Tigers player ever to leave? For Balmain, people were filthy on Glenn Morrison and he was really not that standout a footballer, people lamented Tim Brasher's indecision

People were more filthy with how Morrison left i.e. after signing a contract extension with Balmain and then turned around and signed with Norths soon after. Plus he made some snide remark about wanting to sign with Norths to guarantee his future.
 
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Teddy is a very good player.

However lets look at some facts.

He has played 75 of a possible 126 games. So He has missed 51 games.

The only year he played 24 games was 2015 when we came 15th. The year he played the next most was 2013 when he played 19 games and we finished 15th.

Overall as a Tigers player he has been involved in 27 wins and 48 losses.

Reading some of this you would think he has led us to 2 Premierships.

We don't even win at 40% with him in the side.

My point is the sun will come up in the morning if he goes to the Chooks or Dogs.

I very much agree, but you know what some people say, about being able to twist stats to suit your argument.

Tedesco also has one of the worst missed-tackle rates of active fullbacks and frankly his positioning still needs work.

In his defence, I would honestly say he's been a difference between actual bad results and potentially super bad results. You get what I mean, of all Tigers players of the last few years he's the main one who can claim to achieving consistent high performance regardless of how bad the team is going.

But I definitely believe we can move on, there is a positive about a clean-out, even of the high-profile players, that we've for so long been a club with a losing culture, and even if you lose big-name players, they are part of that losing culture. Sometimes the best way to fix a culture is to overhaul rather than patch it.

So long as the overhaulers have their heads on straight unlike the idiots who burned the 1999 merger money.

Its got to the stage where I actually am hoping Woods leaves, I don't rate him in the top 5 props in the game…so he is very much replaceable...He wants out and the sooner he goes the better, his attitude to the club and fans this year has been poor.

As for Tedesco, he can go to....I'm sure we can find a competent fullback to replace him...Time to cleanout the players and start fresh
 
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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Do a list like I did of all the fullbacks in the NRL

Maybe two aren't real quality French , and to a lesser extent Coote

Even Newcastle have Ponga next season

I don't necessarily see a huge difference between the level of Tedesco and some that are probably 300 k less than him

300 k will pick up a handy key depth player on the market instead of an unproven league minimum prospect from our NYC side

And that's the difference in the end

I want Tedesco to stay but you are right here. We are talking about big money and I honestly think now that the most important thing to creating a winning team is cap management.

There are a lot of quality fullbacks. Teddy is great but does he even deserve the NSW SOO spot this year on form.

Can you please name the quality fullbacks you are talking about.

When all clubs are fully fit look at this list

Souths Inglis
Storm Slater
Brisbane Boyd
Tigers Tedesco
Warriors RTS
Newcastle (2018) Ponga
Dogs Hopoate
Manly Trbojevic
Cowboys Coote
Titans Hayne
Dragons Dugan
Canberra Wighton
Penrith Moylan
Parramatta French
Roosters Gordon /Mitchell
Sharks Holmes

Fullback would have the greatest depth of any position and it was quite possible that 8 fullbacks could of played SOO this season

Enough for you ??
 
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there cannot be any justfication to let teddy leave.

i'd sacrifice 3-4 high calibre players for him to stay.

Do a list like I did of all the fullbacks in the NRL

Maybe two aren't real quality French , and to a lesser extent Coote

Even Newcastle have Ponga next season

I don't necessarily see a huge difference between the level of Tedesco and some that are probably 300 k less than him

300 k will pick up a handy key depth player on the market instead of an unproven league minimum prospect from our NYC side

And that's the difference in the end

I want Tedesco to stay but you are right here. We are talking about big money and I honestly think now that the most important thing to creating a winning team is cap management.

There are a lot of quality fullbacks. Teddy is great but does he even deserve the NSW SOO spot this year on form.

Can you please name the quality fullbacks you are talking about.

Dugan, Hopoate, lolohea, Mitchell I'm sure would be adequate replacements at a minimum 400k per season less then teddy.
 
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When all clubs are fully fit look at this list

Souths Inglis
Storm Slater
Brisbane Boyd
Tigers Tedesco
Warriors RTS
Newcastle (2018) Ponga
Dogs Hopoate
Manly Trbojevic
Cowboys Coote
Titans Hayne
Dragons Dugan
Canberra Wighton
Penrith Moylan
Parramatta French
Roosters Gordon /Mitchell
Sharks Holmes

Fullback would have the greatest depth of any position and it was quite possible that 8 fullbacks could of played SOO this season

Enough for you ??

Rank them please…?
 
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No offence but tigers fans and management really over rate their juniors and a hell bent on local development to the point it's has been the real reason for the teams failures the last half a decade.

Couldn't agree more - hopefully we're moving away from this stance.
I'm all for bringing through local kids, but we need to know when to persist and when to let go, and that's been sorely lacking over the past few years.

Been saying this for a while… It keeps the old fossils that can't let go of Balmain or the Magpies happy....
It's a convenient out for us... Rely on juniors because attracting established nrl experience is too hard for us
 
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No offence but tigers fans and management really over rate their juniors and a hell bent on local development to the point it's has been the real reason for the teams failures the last half a decade.

Couldn't agree more - hopefully we're moving away from this stance.
I'm all for bringing through local kids, but we need to know when to persist and when to let go, and that's been sorely lacking over the past few years.

Been saying this for a while… It keeps the old fossils that can't let go of Balmain or the Magpies happy....
It's a convenient out for us... Rely on juniors because attracting established nrl experience is too hard for us
 

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