James Tedesco Signs with Roosters [Official]

[Baze]

*Disclaimer: I am aware that i will cop much abuse for what i'm about to post. Having said that you can choose to believe it or not, it's entirely up to you, i'm just feeding the information i receive*

Tedesco has agreed to terms with the Roosters for 2018 and beyond, as of this afternoon. I am not sure how long for or how much, but it is from an extremely reliable source from inside the club (yes we've all heard that before). Take this information for what you like but its expected to come out in the media in the coming days (Tedesco is aware it will come out, a major reason for deleting twitter and possibly other social media platforms) with an annoucement to follow the COP. If it doesn't i more than happy to cop it sweet.

Further to my post yesterday and today regarding Tedesco, the media seems to be now all over it. Tedesco's decision was based on money and football development (that's the line he has thrown the Tigers anyway). Isaac Moses met with the club today and officially informed the club of the decision (even though Tedesco had already informed certain members of the club on Tuesday). I have not heard anything in regards to potential replacements as the Tigers believed Tedesco would re-sign.

 

[OzLukeH]

Dunno why people are so upset about potentially losing players that have no advanced this team in any sense to be a contender

Stand back and look at this all from a distance without any emotion involved

You have 15 other clubs to choose from , most have state of the art conditions , many have one home ground /fortress , financially pretty sound , multiple investors ,sponsors great supporters base , strong playing personnel , TPA's coming from left right and centre

Many have made the Top 8 in the last 5 years and have a proud history of this

And then look at us , seriously look at us without the Tigers shades

We are an abomination , a joke , why would anyone risk their careers coming here

I mean this seriously , be honest with yourselves everyone , why the hell would you want to even waste your time driving here if you were one of the games premier players

Look at our clubs supposed superstars and what they are saying , glowing endorsements aren't they …..

I know I've had a crappy week and a half , but this club ...... :deadhorse:

Go follow West Ham !

West Ham??!! Sod that you wanna know about losing your best players year in and year out come follow Southampton!!!! Man alive we lose some talent.

 

[happy_tiger]

Dunno why people are so upset about potentially losing players that have no advanced this team in any sense to be a contender

Stand back and look at this all from a distance without any emotion involved

You have 15 other clubs to choose from , most have state of the art conditions , many have one home ground /fortress , financially pretty sound , multiple investors ,sponsors great supporters base , strong playing personnel , TPA's coming from left right and centre

Many have made the Top 8 in the last 5 years and have a proud history of this

And then look at us , seriously look at us without the Tigers shades

We are an abomination , a joke , why would anyone risk their careers coming here

I mean this seriously , be honest with yourselves everyone , why the hell would you want to even waste your time driving here if you were one of the games premier players

Look at our clubs supposed superstars and what they are saying , glowing endorsements aren't they …..

I know I've had a crappy week and a half , but this club ...... :deadhorse:

Go follow West Ham !

Thanks mate , needed reminding that both teams I support are whacked

Nurse ,Nurse bring me my sedatives please :crazy

 

[smoking_gun]

Dunno why people are so upset about potentially losing players that have no advanced this team in any sense to be a contender

Stand back and look at this all from a distance without any emotion involved

You have 15 other clubs to choose from , most have state of the art conditions , many have one home ground /fortress , financially pretty sound , multiple investors ,sponsors great supporters base , strong playing personnel , TPA's coming from left right and centre

Many have made the Top 8 in the last 5 years and have a proud history of this

And then look at us , seriously look at us without the Tigers shades

We are an abomination , a joke , why would anyone risk their careers coming here

I mean this seriously , be honest with yourselves everyone , why the hell would you want to even waste your time driving here if you were one of the games premier players

Look at our clubs supposed superstars and what they are saying , glowing endorsements aren't they …..

I know I've had a crappy week and a half , but this club ...... :deadhorse:

Cronulla Sharks are absolutely not the team you are describing above, they couldn't even get jersey sponsors a few years ago and now they are reigning premiers.

Of course there are people wearing Tigers shades, but there are also people who take all this very hard because they are Tigers supporters.

What do you think Knights or Penrith or Warriors supporters are feeling right now, Dogs supporters even, do you reckon they think their club is going great, on the up? People take the negatives of their own clubs hard.

Saints were a joke this time last year and now look at them, they hardly even changed their roster, just tweaked a few things. I mean Josh McCrone is their starting halfback, how laughable is that, and they are top of the comp.

I'm with SG, a couple of blokes might walk out of the side and actually I am not that fussed. We are not winning with these players right now. You can argue we need to supplement these players with better quality, but when you are taking up a massive chunk of the salary cap, you lose that ability to build true depth, you need more output for your marquee investment.

This is where I understand very much where SG is coming from in terms of financial analysis. Some players just aren't worth the salaries they are trying to get, their output is not that good. That is not to say they aren't good players, just that you need to balance the entire side.

Tigers have not had a balanced side for 6 years and it's shown. So we can continue to pour money into a handful of players and hope something clicks later this year or next year, maybe the new coach has ideas, or just maybe we are better off with a better overall side at the expense of a few high-profile footballers.

This guy gets it. Finally someone who legitimately understands the process.

 

[TCL]

Dunno why people are so upset about potentially losing players that have no advanced this team in any sense to be a contender

Stand back and look at this all from a distance without any emotion involved

You have 15 other clubs to choose from , most have state of the art conditions , many have one home ground /fortress , financially pretty sound , multiple investors ,sponsors great supporters base , strong playing personnel , TPA's coming from left right and centre

Many have made the Top 8 in the last 5 years and have a proud history of this

And then look at us , seriously look at us without the Tigers shades

We are an abomination , a joke , why would anyone risk their careers coming here

I mean this seriously , be honest with yourselves everyone , why the hell would you want to even waste your time driving here if you were one of the games premier players

Look at our clubs supposed superstars and what they are saying , glowing endorsements aren't they …..

I know I've had a crappy week and a half , but this club ...... :deadhorse:

Happy you need a hug mate. :smiley:

I think this year we are , but last year it was the eels, year before it was Newcastle and so on. But until a few years ago we were the second favourite team for most supporters and commentators.

Swings and round abouts.

Not a pot shot at JT and he has been very dignified since leaving but he was the wrong coach at a critical time for our club. We needed a coach who unified the team not further divided it.

I know we don't want to hear about another rebuild but honestly what every club is doing this year is rebuilding, there is a lot of player movements.

Most non tigers nrl supporters I talk to think their club is a joke.

 

[happy_tiger]

They have left because loyalty does not exist any longer . Look at Farah. Why would they want to play for this club when they can get same money or more and play with stronger, better run clubs with a culture of finals football regularly.

But it is everything

Who wants to deal with the politics that runs this dinosaur of a club

Who the hell would want to have to play at three home grounds

Have a club that is resigned to having to rely on local juniors and can't attract talent and pins its hopes on "potential" year after year

We have money and good players will come to the club. Cleary we know has a history of rebuilding clubs and we are in good hands. Management have done everything possible to retain our big name players.

Yeah they are tearing hinges off the doors down trying to get a work out at the gym at Concord aren't they Paws …

Lined up all the way to the Qld and Melbourne borders

 

[earl]

All I know is that we support a side that is the laughing stock of the NRL and nothing ever seems to change that …......

Remember when we used to be everyone's 2nd favourite team

Like Ink the passion is waning

Many are going to be highly disillusioned by seasons end , we are going to be like the Rich Ugly kid , money to spend but no one wants to be seen within cooee of us

I don't buy this. As a side point your posts always seem to be so down. I don't view the Tigers as the laughing stock of the NRL and I think most people don't as well.

I have some mates who are Parra supporters. They just went through a bad period with rorting and they were laughing at how hopeless their club was. It changes in a season or two.

We've had up times and down times. This might look bad but I don't really think it is.

Sorry I started to get all excited and then I realized that one of our alleged marquee players was leaving to go to that laughing stock you mentioned

Take off the glasses Earl

Players will leave clubs. It's not the end of the world. Honestly I think you get way too riled up. The other day you were stating how badly these guys have been treated. Everyone of them has been pampered and overpaid.

Woods leaving is a good thing because he isn't a great player.

Tedesco is a great player. He may leave. I don't know. We've offered him though a tonne of money and if he goes we will spend that money on other players. I really want him to stay but I'll live if he doesn't and the Tigers will at least have some stability going forward,

I rate Moses but he basically won the game on the weekend for Parra. At this point he is like a poor mans Benji Marshall.

Basically I'm now not too fussed about this whole situation. These 4 players were never the right guys to build our club on. Tedesco is the only marquee player of the lot of them.

 

[earl]

They have left because loyalty does not exist any longer . Look at Farah. Why would they want to play for this club when they can get same money or more and play with stronger, better run clubs with a culture of finals football regularly.

But it is everything

Who wants to deal with the politics that runs this dinosaur of a club

Who the hell would want to have to play at three home grounds

Have a club that is resigned to having to rely on local juniors and can't attract talent and pins its hopes on "potential" year after year

We have money and good players will come to the club. Cleary we know has a history of rebuilding clubs and we are in good hands. Management have done everything possible to retain our big name players.

Yeah they are tearing hinges off the doors down trying to get a work out at the gym at Concord aren't they Paws …

Lined up all the way to the Qld and Melbourne borders

Thats the spirit.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

They have left because loyalty does not exist any longer . Look at Farah. Why would they want to play for this club when they can get same money or more and play with stronger, better run clubs with a culture of finals football regularly.

But it is everything

Who wants to deal with the politics that runs this dinosaur of a club

Who the hell would want to have to play at three home grounds

Have a club that is resigned to having to rely on local juniors and can't attract talent and pins its hopes on "potential" year after year

We have money and good players will come to the club. Cleary we know has a history of rebuilding clubs and we are in good hands. Management have done everything possible to retain our big name players.

Yeah they are tearing hinges off the doors down trying to get a work out at the gym at Concord aren't they Paws …

Lined up all the way to the Qld and Melbourne borders

Don't despair, many deals will be done when the salary cap squeeze commences. I follow the club, not one player and some of our supporters need to get things into perspective.

 

[ricksen]

Dunno why people are so upset about potentially losing players that have no advanced this team in any sense to be a contender

Stand back and look at this all from a distance without any emotion involved

You have 15 other clubs to choose from , most have state of the art conditions , many have one home ground /fortress , financially pretty sound , multiple investors ,sponsors great supporters base , strong playing personnel , TPA's coming from left right and centre

Many have made the Top 8 in the last 5 years and have a proud history of this

And then look at us , seriously look at us without the Tigers shades

We are an abomination , a joke , why would anyone risk their careers coming here

I mean this seriously , be honest with yourselves everyone , why the hell would you want to even waste your time driving here if you were one of the games premier players

Look at our clubs supposed superstars and what they are saying , glowing endorsements aren't they …..

I know I've had a crappy week and a half , but this club ...... :deadhorse:

Cronulla Sharks are absolutely not the team you are describing above, they couldn't even get jersey sponsors a few years ago and now they are reigning premiers.

Of course there are people wearing Tigers shades, but there are also people who take all this very hard because they are Tigers supporters.

What do you think Knights or Penrith or Warriors supporters are feeling right now, Dogs supporters even, do you reckon they think their club is going great, on the up? People take the negatives of their own clubs hard.

Saints were a joke this time last year and now look at them, they hardly even changed their roster, just tweaked a few things. I mean Josh McCrone is their starting halfback, how laughable is that, and they are top of the comp.

I'm with SG, a couple of blokes might walk out of the side and actually I am not that fussed. We are not winning with these players right now. You can argue we need to supplement these players with better quality, but when you are taking up a massive chunk of the salary cap, you lose that ability to build true depth, you need more output for your marquee investment.

This is where I understand very much where SG is coming from in terms of financial analysis. Some players just aren't worth the salaries they are trying to get, their output is not that good. That is not to say they aren't good players, just that you need to balance the entire side.

Tigers have not had a balanced side for 6 years and it's shown. So we can continue to pour money into a handful of players and hope something clicks later this year or next year, maybe the new coach has ideas, or just maybe we are better off with a better overall side at the expense of a few high-profile footballers.

Further to the Sharks example - does anyone remember the last round in 2014?
[www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/29533](http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/29533)
They won the spoon, were an absolute mess on and off the field. Won the premiership two years later.
I'm sure someone could point to a nadir for the Raiders as well. I seem to remember Sticky being very vocal about their struggles with recruitment etc.

We may not be able to go out and recruit a marquee name here and now, but if we buy some mid-tier guys on short term deals, slowly make our way back to competence, we'll be able to hit the market with a vengeance in a year or two.

Penrith didn't go out and sign Merrin and co straight away. They had to make do with experienced place-holders like Soward & Kite whilst their youth developed, and then added the rep level players down the line.

We may be able to fast-track it a little as we have basically a full team to build, but the template is there.

I'm pretty annoyed right now (more to do with our captain insulting his own fan base yet again), but there's a lot of melodramatic stuff about this being the end of the club. Sleep it off guys.

 

[happy_tiger]

But it is everything

Who wants to deal with the politics that runs this dinosaur of a club

Who the hell would want to have to play at three home grounds

Have a club that is resigned to having to rely on local juniors and can't attract talent and pins its hopes on "potential" year after year

We have money and good players will come to the club. Cleary we know has a history of rebuilding clubs and we are in good hands. Management have done everything possible to retain our big name players.

Yeah they are tearing hinges off the doors down trying to get a work out at the gym at Concord aren't they Paws …

Lined up all the way to the Qld and Melbourne borders

Thats the spirit.

Mate I don't care the players are leaving , I care why it is happening

Stick your head in the sand all you like , happy footballers don't leave happy clubs especially when they get offers that are above market value

They know that this club will never get it , no matter what changes it still stays the same

Do people realize when you take out the Sheens years our winning percentage is at 30.4% around 9% lower than the next club's lowest winning percentage since 2000

That's scary bad , real scary bad

 

[ricksen]

That's devastating if true …. and it probably is.

Forty years I have been putting up with Wests losing star players ....now it looks like our best three players are leaving .... it just doesn't give a bloke the heart to keep supporting them.

I don't see it that way, Knuckles. I've been supporting Wests for 56 years now and this stuff just makes me more determined to stick with the Club. Players come and go but the club is what I have always and will always support.

I feel the club has done the right thing here and I'm fine with however it turns out.

They club has not done the right thing. The club is not telling you all the details. If the club had done the right thing then no one would be leaving.
Why are the captain and best player leaving when the club has presented them both with two of the highest offers ever in NRL history? Hello Mr Pascoe..care to share?

In all honesty, if you've got an inkling as to why, please let us know.

 

[Eddie]

Cleary the best coach we have had since Sheens happy.

And we were in a far, far bigger mess in 2003 when Sheens took over.

 

[jirskyr]

Who the hell would want to have to play at three home grounds

Dragons players? They are leading the comp at the moment, right?

 

[razor7]

This is all very disheartening. Tedesco is not replaceable given the players currently playing in the NRL. Those running the club are not doing well and haven't for a long time.The Holden Cup side is an embarrassment and the Intrust team has won one match. Sadly there is misplaced optimism by some on here.This is not playing out well.

 

[happy_tiger]

Cleary the best coach we have had since Sheens happy.

And we were in a far, far bigger mess in 2003 when Sheens took over.

Won't matter , no playing talent , or we will won't get the mix right again

But seriously Eddie look at how many weeks in a row we have been the centre of bad press , Simona ,Lovett , sacking JT , Cleary being headhunted back in January , shocking performances

CEO's would laugh at players managers saying you had a 900 k offer to go to the WT's

There reply " do you really want to go to the WT's "

You'd have the players /players managers and CEO all in hysterics :roll

 

[smoking_gun]

For those using the raiders analogy only need to look at this

2014 their halves combo was campese and wighton. With butriss at hooker

2015 their halves combo was Austin/Williams/Cornish/mcrone and Hodgson at hooker

2016 it's Austin/Sezer In the halves with Hodgson at hooker.

Around that they added players like rapana BJ soliola Paulo tapine developed wighton Croker Boyd etc and now they are flying. Those signings were fringe FG players looking for a chance. Smart signings. And they continue to make good signings. Do they have one superstar in that team? Nope. But they have let plenty go over the last 5 years or so and are in a much better place for it now.

 

[jirskyr]

Further to the Sharks example - does anyone remember the last round in 2014?
[www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/29533](http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/29533)
They won the spoon, were an absolute mess on and off the field. Won the premiership two years later.
I'm sure someone could point to a nadir for the Raiders as well. I seem to remember Sticky being very vocal about their struggles with recruitment etc.

We may not be able to go out and recruit a marquee name here and now, but if we buy some mid-tier guys on short term deals, slowly make our way back to competence, we'll be able to hit the market with a vengeance in a year or two.

Penrith didn't go out and sign Merrin and co straight away. They had to make do with experienced place-holders like Soward & Kite whilst their youth developed, and then added the rep level players down the line.

We may be able to fast-track it a little as we have basically a full team to build, but the template is there.

I'm pretty annoyed right now (more to do with our captain insulting his own fan base yet again), but there's a lot of melodramatic stuff about this being the end of the club. Sleep it off guys.

Very much agree, major problem is many (most?) fans don't do well with long-term plans, they want instant Maggie noodles success.

They want a club overhaul and wins to start mounting. For these people, the idea of "stick strong, it's going to be a long and hard but ultimately worthwhile process" doesn't sit well. Many of them will still be here if/when the process ends and success is achieved, at which time they will be glad they stuck around.

 

[jirskyr]

Do people realize when you take out the Sheens years our winning percentage is at 30.4% around 9% lower than the next club's lowest winning percentage since 2000

That's scary bad , real scary bad

Having a bad night happy, if you cherry-pick out the winning-est coaches from many clubs you can pull a terribly low win percentage from most of the remainders.

 

[smoking_gun]

Dugan
Milford
Carney
Ferguson.

Raiders recovered OK. And tbh is there a current Tigers player more accomplished in their position then the above listed players the raiders have had to sack or release? Tedesco on potential hasn't accomplished half of what Dugan has, Moses not in the vicinity of carneys class and same goes for Milford. It may take 12-18 months but with smart recruitment and a strong coach like those 4 players it will be a distant memory