Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

[Needaname]

So what is the trend? You are an analyst.

The trend is we are 0 from 1 in attempting to sign Latrell Mitchells.

However knowing as you do that you need at least 3 for a trend, it's just a single datapoint, not a trend.

Come on - that is seriously taking the piss. Is that the best trend you can come up with?
Mate, don’t get me wrong. You post great stuff but that response was less than convincing. I’ve said a million times that missing Mitchell is not the dominant issue. It’s losing clutch moments continuously. That is our dominant trend (in my humble opinion).
If we sign JAC tomorrow, we start to correct that negative trend.

I agree on clutch moments, if you mean clutch moments on the field.

Signing Latrell, or not, isn't a clutch moment at all. It's a very long drawn-out affair. I am not aware of any trend of Tigers offering players a million bucks and being turned down. Not even privvy to the data about how many players Tigers have ever (or recently) made offers to and how successful we have been.

Recruitment is all shady talk anyway and almost no firm data, so you can't really go building trends about recruitment.

Luke lewis. Not a million dollars but the ratio to output/potential was the same. Plus this was before million dollar contracts. Think we tried to sign him for 650,000.

Don’t be coy. You know the trend he is referring to and one such example is as above. Analyse that.

 

[Spartan117]

Mods rule

 

[Spartan117]

Anyway. Case closed on this one for mi e.

 

[JD Tiger]

So what is the trend? You are an analyst.

The trend is we are 0 from 1 in attempting to sign Latrell Mitchells.

However knowing as you do that you need at least 3 for a trend, it's just a single datapoint, not a trend.

Come on - that is seriously taking the piss. Is that the best trend you can come up with?
Mate, don’t get me wrong. You post great stuff but that response was less than convincing. I’ve said a million times that missing Mitchell is not the dominant issue. It’s losing clutch moments continuously. That is our dominant trend (in my humble opinion).
If we sign JAC tomorrow, we start to correct that negative trend.

I agree on clutch moments, if you mean clutch moments on the field.

Signing Latrell, or not, isn't a clutch moment at all. It's a very long drawn-out affair. I am not aware of any trend of Tigers offering players a million bucks and being turned down. Not even privvy to the data about how many players Tigers have ever (or recently) made offers to and how successful we have been.

Recruitment is all shady talk anyway and almost no firm data, so you can't really go building trends about recruitment.

By clutch moments I mean important end results - moments where it matters.
I agree we don’t understand The intricacies Of contract negotiations. Mate I know nothing on that front. But at end point - we lose. That’s my data point. End result. Interestingly, I wonder where we win in this regard? Maybe with players not seriously contested? I don’t know. But I stand by my hypothesis: when we want a good player - we lose. When we need to win - we lose.

Steve mate, only a couple of years ago we paid big money for Packer, Matulino, Reynolds, MBye, getting all of them... now it turns out maybe we shouldn't have gotten any of them in hindsight, maybe Mats, but at the time they were big signings that we lured here.

Not as big as LM, sure, but still big.

 

[cktiger]

No use squabbling .
Truth is Latrell took the easy option.

 

[happy_tiger]

No use squabbling .
Truth is Latrell took the easy option.

Wouldn't the easier option been taking the money at the WT's ??

 

[cktiger]

No use squabbling .
Truth is Latrell took the easy option.

Wouldn't the easier option been taking the money at the WT's ??

I was talking about the easier option on the paddock.
Too scared to cope with the pressure of lifting a team ...much easier (or so he seems to think) at a club with a strong roster to fall back on.
He might be in for a rude surprise once their pack starts getting owned.

 

[happy_tiger]

No use squabbling .
Truth is Latrell took the easy option.

Wouldn't the easier option been taking the money at the WT's ??

I was talking about the easier option on the paddock.
Too scared to cope with the pressure of lifting a team ...much easier (or so he seems to think) at a club with a strong roster to fall back on.
He might be in for a rude surprise once their pack starts getting owned.

I think both ....he is on a hiding to nothing at Souths

If he takes the pay cut and they can't land a premiership or gets his NSW jersey back he is going to look the idiot

 

[Hangonaminute]

And another circus starts again in the form of douehi

Douehi is mediocre

 

[Madge]

Don’t get the hype for doueihi. Average player.

 

[happy_tiger]

The WT Fringies ...

The Eye of the Fringies

Risin up back from reggies training
Did my time in CC
you get the drift .

 

[sheer64]

The WT Fringies ...

The Eye of the Fringies

Risin up back from reggies training
Did my time in CC
you get the drift .

You been taking your medication Hap?

Or maybe you bought a share at the Magic Millions?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

All of our own making going back to extremely poor retention decisions. If it wasn't so bad you would laugh about it. One of our junior clubs produces two outstanding fullback talents and we don't keep with either!

I don't understand this comment at all? Latrell signed on, apparently, for the opportunity to play fullback.

If we retained these mysterious outstanding fullback talents, we wouldn't have had space for Latrell?

We wouldn't need to go to market had they been retained.

 

[Moh]

And another circus starts again in the form of douehi

Douehi is mediocre

Ok glad I'm not the only one.

I don't think he's that bad, and wouldn't mind him for cheap as he does have potential - but he's not someone that gets me as excited as most seem to be.

 

[bigsiro]

And another circus starts again in the form of douehi

Douehi is mediocre

Ok glad I'm not the only one.

I don't think he's that bad, and wouldn't mind him for cheap as he does have potential - but he's not someone that gets me as excited as most seem to be.

Me too. Good fill in role player but meh.

 

[fainty]

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that ...
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !


They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I'm related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you're interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

Same here please

 

[fainty]

Sorry just read the post

 

[tiger05premier]

Roosters now have $800,000 to spend since LM walked. How’s that work?

Not that much. The 800K offer was for 2021, so its not current money. Similarly Titans have fair cap space from Jai Arrow, but from 2021 not now.

In fact a lot of clubs have cap space coming up 2021, such is the cyclical nature of contracts.

Latrell signed his current extension in 2018, so he's on the same contract as before they won a comp. Plus Roosters have already paid him some $120K for 2020, which counts against their cap.

Roosters also spent a lot of money re-signing key players this offseason, e.g. JWH and Taukeiaho, Joey Manu. A lot of that is probably Cooper Cronk's money.

Do you think they've got enough to top up Verrills or should we make him an offer for 2021?

Verrills for 2020, sure, we are deficient in hooker. Verrills for 2021, it's too early IMO. And then what did we sign Jake Simpkin for, if not for 2021? Also Liddle.

Personally, I'd target Bronson Xerri, but he's not off contract until end 2021, so we cannot formally approach him until November 2020.

He will probably be a rooster by than

 

[tiger05premier]

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that ...
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !


They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I'm related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you're interested.


PM me I would like to know ?

Me as well please

Go to page 510

 

[Fraze23]

Alright Latrell, you just made the list.