Luke Brooks

[TigerVinnie]

I think they key for Brook's development is a stable combination. If AD is our future 6 and Mybe our 1 (at least for this year) then we MUST stick with them throughout the entire year. Through the ups and downs of the season. We cannot afford to continue shuffling these key positions like we have throughout the years (the kid has had 7 different halves/fullback combinations since his debut with only Moses lasting more than a year).

I would even go as far as saying if Mybe was to go down injured replace him with someone else, don't move AD back there. If these two can form a solid working combination then we must not mess with it.

Whilst AD is definitely a competitor I don't see him having a big ego, so hopefully overcalling Brooks won't be an issue. I have a good feeling these two will compliment each others game quite well. Combining that with Liddle at 9 who has always played well with Brooks - those 3 could be just the right combination we have been looking for.

 

[TrueTiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

 

[rustycage]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

 

[earl]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

 

[rustycage]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

 

[cktiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Luke "it's my team now" Brooks.

Every year I hear how it's his team now, every year he plays like it's not.

 

[rustycage]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
**In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team** or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

Much like Benji then huh?

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I'm suggesting that if our defence doesn't improve from last season we won't have the points in us to win enough games

 

[happy_tiger]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Couldnt agree more. And everyone is entitled to their opinion and youre not a fan of Brooks clearly.

But tell me this. At which period in his playing career has he had a fair go with a decent halves partner and forward pack? Sure, I agree he needs to still make something without those things, but I have seen 'glimpses' of what he could be and that is enough based on what he has had around him.

He may grow up to be nothing. But as for providing a decent team for him to 'own', and halfback alternatives, I think he is top of the tree at the moment.

Dont have an issue with Brooks at all if he produces his best fotm ....but everyone must agree that his form in 2020 wasnt acceptable

He tries his ass off and has improved many areas of his game....but the only acceptable result is finals footy

Jesus you go on and on Hap,if Brooks plays his arse off and has improved many areas of his game....what about the other 16 in the game day side...does Brooks have to carry them,they have to all have a fair dinkum go or we will miss out on the finals again...Madge cant be out there and play for them all...this is a team effort and they all have to do their job"""

Seriously TT if you are trying to say that Brooks form was acceptable in 2020 and he wasn't partially responsible for our failed finals attempt in 2020 you are kidding yourself


And 2ndly ...your taking out Marshall and Grant's attack


Yep I go on and on ...with sound footy sense .....


2nd time Zig if you don't like what I type Foe me ...its simple


But no doubt you'll make some smart ass comment about me kicking the ball into trees again ....

 

[clontarfkid]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

If all our team, especially some of our backs, defended as well as Brooks does we would make the finals. I cannot see this happening as the two main offenders are in their late twenties and never have they improved or being held to account for it. I live in hope Maguire will act.

 

[OzLuke]

Yea you’re definitely right hobbo. Except how the facts don’t add up to your imaginary arguement . Or stats outside this past year .

Dally M would turn in his grave if he knew.

LOL . Ok I’ll bite . Who’s our saviour then ? Gareth Widdop ? Benji ? If the answers yes , you need to recalibrate your ability sensor .

Jock Madden is his name .
Kicks goals too !

I have no input on this , other than I watched him in CC cup last year , and he was “fine”.
Brooks was playing NRL 2 years younger than him . And playing “fine “. Just for reference .

Put the violin away.
The real fact is he has shown he can’t run a team no matter who is next to him.
No amount of him saying it’s ‘his team’ makes him even the slightest bit more dominant.
He has improved in defence but that’s it ... and that’s not what the team needs from him.
No doubt he has some talent but the improvement needed in his attitude is only going to come from between his ears... and that doesn’t seem to be a strong point.
Let’s hope, after all these years, it clicks.
I’m not holding my breath but hope he provides a miracle for the team’s sake.

Once again , already has clicked . Go back 2 years to our amazing team of players like Naqaima , Tui Lolohea , MWZ , Mahe Fonua , and he went top 5 in most categories .
With amazingly dismal forward packs . That and 2019 should have been more than enough evidence , to get you to jump off your thought train .
People saying it’s everyone else’s fault make me laugh . What more do you want ? The team in 2018 was beyond dismal . It was laughable now I look at it. And he did pretty well.
You’re just not being objective at all .
It’s like he turned up at your daughters 18th , got way too drunk and vomited on your front porch . Now 20 years later he’s your son in law . Provided you 3 grand kids , your daughters happy in her million dollar house and great husband , but you can’t stop thinking about how this punk kid vomited on your newly put in front deck 20 years ago. Lol

Although your love for Brooks shows no bounds unfortunately his talent has plenty of limitations .
As a supporter I hope he can actually show some grit and consistency this year and a real desire to run the team.... rather than just mouthing the words again.
As a halfback he has speed and relatively good defence - after that the cupboard is pretty bare.
Poor kicking game, can't set up his outside men and can't control the pace of a game.
How do all your statistics help there?
Once again - I hope, like a bottle of fine wine, he comes good.
Just been waiting a very long time.

I’ve already stated how none of what your saying hasn’t any evidence other than your opinion, which we can hardly say is objective .
He had a crap year last year . We all know that . But to imply that he’s never done anything is ridiculous and more to do with your sad , unrealistic expectations because some journo said 10 years ago he was the second coming of Andrew Johns.
I’m not in love with the bloke , I’m just loyal to a guy who’s shown us loyalty . And who has played well enough to warrant that loyalty . But some of you guys are always looking over the neighbours fence. That’s not me .and I’m not apologising for thinking swapping Brooks for Widdop is a crap idea . Or last year Brodie Croft LOL. Which was a thing .
I think he’s very good , is paid the correct amount when you look at the market for good halves and hopefully can prove once and for all his value.
But the reality with many people is, if he doesn’t win 3 premierships and play origin for 5 years he will go down as a bust . Which I don’t agree with.

Shown us loyalty lmao
He couldn’t sign quick enough cause no one else would take him .

We have been through this before Hobbo - you have had it explained to you about Melbourne. You keep saying the same thing.

Simple answer is - you are incorrect.

You’re off with the fairies ?‍♀️


It’s true mate. Every few months we go through this song and dance . You stay the same and the people arguing with you change . And you know as well as we do that the storm had a big money offer on the table at the time of extension , as well as the dogs .

As the number 1 Luke Brooks sympathiser you conveniently left out the word “apparently “.

“Big money” lol

No you inset that word , because your bias can’t think rationally about this. Not a brooks sympathiser , just a realist .some of you guys really do suck as fans . Even when we are winning you especially say things like , “only a matter of time before we are crap again “ . You’re like the fan in stands in major league 1 and 2 . Just constant negativity.

no one is banging the door off the hinges now to sign Brooks

2022 is another story and Brooks sas a major let down in 2020

That’s fine , and I 100% agree it’s you . But you can’t re write history , and at the time he signed the extension he was in hot demand. I’ve got more than enough confidence he can return to the player he was prior to last year . He was in the origin conversation , if only for a short while .
People need to also realise , he will have to break down the panthers connection littered through NSW origin at the moment . Alexander , Fittler , Girdler etc , are all in and around the team , so Clearyis going to be hard to supplant no matter how good brooks plays. As if Cleary is a better half than adam Reynolds . And Adams never been mentioned in the origin conversation .
Brooks needs to win footy games and the rest will take care of itself .

more to the point Brooks will have to be the catalyst for us to make the 8 ....if we dont his and Madges necks need to be on the blocks

Why would we sack Madge and Brooks? they are not at fault for us having had a seriously average NRL squad for a long time. I’m 100% sure other clubs would happily snap them both up in a second because they are not the reason we have been perennially average.

you cant continually lead a NRL side around the park and not plsy finals footy and if he was to have another season like 2020 you couldnt possibly keep him

and madge would be in the same boat ....would it be his 6th or 7th season in a row without finals footy

Most understand we have a weak roster. The changes we have witnessed and those still to happen will transform the Club into a potential powerhouse. The overhaul of the salary cap, player contracts, roster, junior recruitment, pathways and the Indigenous initiative have been significant improvements for the Club. This foundation will set the Club up so hopefully we avoid issues like the cap challenges faced by Penrith.

Madge might survive another missed finals campaign ....but Brooks cant .....id even quedtion if his game is suffering because of the mental challenges of missing the 8 has had on him

Im feeling more confident of the Brooks/Doueihi combination as being a more stable foundation for our attack and game-management, rather than Brooks/Marshall.

Or, in reality, Marshall/anyone. That's proven not to work consistently. Maybe why he's not signed by anyone yet? Reality bites.

if you are implying Im a Benji fan ...im far from it

but anyone must be concerned where the points are going to come from....especially if our defence is anything last the last 10 rounds

Suggesting our team this year won't be able to score points is ridiculous. There will be plenty. The argument that we need Benji to create our points was always flawed because season after season he proved that he was unable to generate enough to get the team to the finals. Somehow though, he was never the problem. It was always Brooks. If only Marshall would have pocketed his ego and allowed his halves partner to have a say in proceedingds.

I reckon Benji was our most creative player last year. I also think we will get the points he got us from elsewhere. It'll be interesting if we get more wins on the board.

It was unfortunate that he was so creative that his own team mates didn't know what he was creating. More unfortunate that he himself didn't know. Flying by the seat of one's pants in the NRL has a very short shelf life. The proof of which is his record of finals appearances after his initial success. And yet he's considered some sort of messiah by so many. It boggles the mind. Brooks must feel a sense of absolute elation in the fact that he's gone.

On the contrary.
Brooks is most likely crapping his pants now all the pressure is on him.
In all these years he hasn’t shown he can carry the team or be the main man.... with excuses for his shortcomings aplenty.
It’s step up now or shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

If all our team, especially some of our backs, defended as well as Brooks does we would make the finals. I cannot see this happening as the two main offenders are in their late twenties and never have they improved or being held to account for it. I live in hope Maguire will act.

people are critical about brooks' attack, and on last years form it's deserved, but not too many praise his defence which early in his career was atrocious. I think he is one of the best defending halves in the game.

 

[OzLuke]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

I sort of agree with this. Brodie Croft is a myth . Can do a job , but I hope he’s not the “brooks “ replacement , or heir apparent like I dunno Blake Lazarus , Jacob Miller etc.

 

[OzLuke]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

I sort of agree with this. Brodie Croft is a myth . Can do a job , but I hope he’s not the “brooks “ replacement , or heir apparent like I dunno Blake Lazarus , Jacob Miller etc.

some pundit made the point earlier in the year saying melbourne don't keep the duds....

 

[sleeve]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

We have some talent coming through in the halves,and my only concern is allowing room for future buys in the cap,,..i like croft and think he is greatly underrated, he could be a winner.

 

[finnzo]

Brodie Croft is a no go he couldn’t make it work in1 of the best systems in the competition (Melbourne) what chance would he have hear

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Controversial,but Id also consider a subsidized Croft swapping for Walters effective immediately
1Walters not available until mid season,and its unlikely we re-sign him for 22. Hasnt got it by 28 he aint ever gonna get it.Time to cut and run if weve get a suitable halves back up.Which leads me to..
2)Broft totally surplus to Bris requirements and needs a fresh start.Personal issues +coach misfit played a role in his performance this yr.They want him out
3) We atm have no back up halves...Doehi unproven at 6 and Brooks a mystery and needs challenging.Mbye/Momo at 5 is ridiculous

I agree with this. He would add good cover for many positions, and would be subsidized by the broncos to get him off their books.

I sort of agree with this. Brodie Croft is a myth . Can do a job , but I hope he’s not the “brooks “ replacement , or heir apparent like I dunno Blake Lazarus , Jacob Miller etc.

Croft is very very ordinary
take him out of that storm system hopeless
same with Flannigan he couldn't perform at roosters he ain't going to do it at dogs