Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[pawsandclaws1]


Not sure if posted already but interesting to see the future captains opinion

That makes me question him as a future captain. Shows a lack of maturity.

What it shows to me is that the players back the coach and have little respect for management.
I have started liking them again.

I don't care if he likes them or not, that is not the way to deal with it.

I don’t agree.
Upper management, especially recruitment are the problem.

So you would bag your employers publicly, or support someone else who was?

He hasn’t bagged anyone out. He has shown support for his coach who has been bashed from pillar to post recently.

By supporting someone criticising senior management.

Obviously the younger generation like bitting the hand that feeds them ! Do not think that people in the right places have not noticed… Maybe Douehi already made his thoughts known to management !

Not to get too personal by my sons' mother has a terminal illness. Her sister posted a video on Instagram of her walking with the aid of physiotherapists and a stick in hospital. In doing so she detailed what I considered to be private patient medical information. My sons are very angry and upset this has been made public especially as their mother has lost capacity and the person who posted the video is supposedly health guardian with access to her medical information. She also took the opportunity to spruik the video as confirmation of the legitimacy of the naturopathic products she markets.

This highlights the danger of social media and information security as well as downright disgusting behaviour.

 

[TigerWest]


Not sure if posted already but interesting to see the future captains opinion

That makes me question him as a future captain. Shows a lack of maturity.

What it shows to me is that the players back the coach and have little respect for management.
I have started liking them again.

I don't care if he likes them or not, that is not the way to deal with it.

I don’t agree.
Upper management, especially recruitment are the problem.

So you would bag your employers publicly, or support someone else who was?

He hasn’t bagged anyone out. He has shown support for his coach who has been bashed from pillar to post recently.

By supporting someone criticising senior management.

Obviously the younger generation like bitting the hand that feeds them ! Do not think that people in the right places have not noticed… Maybe Douehi already made his thoughts known to management !

Not to get too personal by my sons' mother has a terminal illness. Her sister posted a video on Instagram of her walking with the aid of physiotherapists and a stick in hospital. In doing so she detailed what I considered to be private patient medical information. My sons are very angry and upset this has been made public especially as their mother has lost capacity and the person who posted the video is supposedly health guardian with access to her medical information. She also took the opportunity to spruik the video as confirmation of the legitimacy of the naturopathic products she markets.

This highlights the danger of social media and information security as well as downright disgusting behaviour.

Sorry to hear about your son’s mother?

 

[pawsandclaws1]


Not sure if posted already but interesting to see the future captains opinion

That makes me question him as a future captain. Shows a lack of maturity.

What it shows to me is that the players back the coach and have little respect for management.
I have started liking them again.

I don't care if he likes them or not, that is not the way to deal with it.

I don’t agree.
Upper management, especially recruitment are the problem.

So you would bag your employers publicly, or support someone else who was?

He hasn’t bagged anyone out. He has shown support for his coach who has been bashed from pillar to post recently.

By supporting someone criticising senior management.

Obviously the younger generation like bitting the hand that feeds them ! Do not think that people in the right places have not noticed… Maybe Douehi already made his thoughts known to management !

Not to get too personal by my sons' mother has a terminal illness. Her sister posted a video on Instagram of her walking with the aid of physiotherapists and a stick in hospital. In doing so she detailed what I considered to be private patient medical information. My sons are very angry and upset this has been made public especially as their mother has lost capacity and the person who posted the video is supposedly health guardian with access to her medical information. She also took the opportunity to spruik the video as confirmation of the legitimacy of the naturopathic products she markets.

This highlights the danger of social media and information security as well as downright disgusting behaviour.

Sorry to hear about your son’s mother?

Thanks TW. The situation is bad enough but the behaviour of some of her family is disgraceful.

 

[TigerWest]


Not sure if posted already but interesting to see the future captains opinion

That makes me question him as a future captain. Shows a lack of maturity.

What it shows to me is that the players back the coach and have little respect for management.
I have started liking them again.

I don't care if he likes them or not, that is not the way to deal with it.

I don’t agree.
Upper management, especially recruitment are the problem.

So you would bag your employers publicly, or support someone else who was?

He hasn’t bagged anyone out. He has shown support for his coach who has been bashed from pillar to post recently.

By supporting someone criticising senior management.

Obviously the younger generation like bitting the hand that feeds them ! Do not think that people in the right places have not noticed… Maybe Douehi already made his thoughts known to management !

Not to get too personal by my sons' mother has a terminal illness. Her sister posted a video on Instagram of her walking with the aid of physiotherapists and a stick in hospital. In doing so she detailed what I considered to be private patient medical information. My sons are very angry and upset this has been made public especially as their mother has lost capacity and the person who posted the video is supposedly health guardian with access to her medical information. She also took the opportunity to spruik the video as confirmation of the legitimacy of the naturopathic products she markets.

This highlights the danger of social media and information security as well as downright disgusting behaviour.

Sorry to hear about your son’s mother?

Thanks TW. The situation is bad enough but the behaviour of some of her family is disgraceful.

Unfortunately you can choose your friends, but not your family?

 

[Tim Sheens]

Hopefully lessons are learnt from the failings this year and surrounding him with sheens and **new assistants** gets the desired results.

After reading and hearing for year or so that Maguire needed new assistants and partly so because he feared unseating, that we went through the entire season without change makes the current situation and decisions even more upsetting.

Baffled as to why on earth our club waited until the fat lady had totally lost her voice before making this bloody change!

Having two highly capable assistants in place provides a seamless transition to a new coach. It's a smart move by the club.

Yeah, but way too late looking from this end in light of his retention.

 

[tony soprano]

Hopefully lessons are learnt from the failings this year and surrounding him with sheens and **new assistants** gets the desired results.

After reading and hearing for year or so that Maguire needed new assistants and partly so because he feared unseating, that we went through the entire season without change makes the current situation and decisions even more upsetting.

Baffled as to why on earth our club waited until the fat lady had totally lost her voice before making this bloody change!

Having two highly capable assistants in place provides a seamless transition to a new coach. It's a smart move by the club.

Yeah I think we went backwards when they sacked sandercock for madges mates.

 

[TigerNeddyK]

Gus’ thoughts.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.nine.com.au/article/79775d55-0079-4e50-b039-f17d63e1324e

Chammas is a bottom feeder

He's what bottom-feeders feed on.

All this Journalist hate on this forum , they only kick the stuffing out of us because we make it easy for them by being incompetent and pathetic on and off field! Winning clubs don’t get bagged day in day out like we do. IMO some people on this forum may be better served directing their suspicions and criticisms at the people that are actually responsible for the terrible results we have achieved for the last 10 years instead of the people reporting on them. Shooting the messenger went out with the Romans for good reason.. .I know Buzz is a special kind of Murdoch vulture but the rest are just calling as they see it for the most part and as all the Madge support group warriors commonly point out , the Journos are not the ones letting tries in and refusing to tackle or put effort in on the field !?

 

[Russell]

Madge hasn't taken a team to finals since 2015. In 2017 he took the Rabbitohs to 12th place, the year after Anthony Seibold took over who's a terrible coach and got essentially the same roster to finish third.

Hopefully he breaks his streak next season.

Needs to reinvent himself

What do you suggest?

The tough guy act didn't work as the players all sulked and brought out their egg shells nonsense.

The nice guy act didn't work either, seemed forced and fake, as seen on the doco.

Needs to just smarten up, bring in some big gun assistants and start shopping around the problem players that think they own the club. Until then, he's on the same track as the last 3 years.

The biggest thing he needs is a string leadership group to drive madges standards and do the talking for madge.

Finucane would if been great.
But from what's available now, I'd make sims a priority.

Give farah a greater role in coaching.

And bring in a young assistant. Gardiner? Hodge? Burgess?

Anyone been watching Sam Burgess on SAS? Natural born leader- you can see why he was a gun player.
Should send Brooks off to do that programme over the off season.

If there are limited options on available players with leadership on the market then not a bad option to target some gun recent ex players with high level leadership and passion to add to the coaching staff somewhere to mentor the young guys with standards, passion, resilience.

Maybe even some left field options with people from other successful code teams to add some guidance, eg an Alastair Clarkson type.

From that article that was posted earlier regarding Garry Jack’s comments, they could certainly better engage with some of the old boys to get around the group. Jumper presentations, mentoring, come to training, helping to convey the history and beat parts of successful cultures of previous teams. Reinforce the identity of the club.


I do a lot of work with West Harbour Rugby and we always encourage the old boys to come back and assist the club. They are part of the clubs history and makes a huge difference and impact on the younger players. This year we had 3 or 4 ex players who are in the current Australian team come back to train with the boys for a few weeks. Their mentoring and support of the boys was great to see. The Tigers can do the same but the Old Boys have to be relevant to todays game and this is where I struggle to identify anyone from the Tigers in the past 10 years who would actually provide direction and support. These Old Boys need to have the respect of the players for it to be any advantage. Apart from Farah I can't think of anyone who fits the bill?

Rowdy - How quickly we forget.

 

[Russell]

I will now support him as I want what's best for the team but I am disappointed.

I can’t share the same view. After almost 40 years I’m done with the club.

See Ya!

Good to see you back posting, Russell. Hope all is well.

Thanks, just being selective in what threads I open these days.

E.g. not relevant now but I have given up on "Live Game Day" threads.

Yes, all is well. Glad Madge is staying on, for stability and to give him
the chance to finish what he started.

 

[happy_tiger]

Thoughts on Cooper Cronk as an assistant coach?..he has a good footy brain of the modern game

I would take him, even just as a halves consultant. He does really good work on leadership as well so could be good for developing leadership in guys like AD.

People know he works already for both the Storm and Roosters in consultancy roles as well as Fox

He won't wreck his legacy and come here .....

 

[cochise]

Thoughts on Cooper Cronk as an assistant coach?..he has a good footy brain of the modern game

I would take him, even just as a halves consultant. He does really good work on leadership as well so could be good for developing leadership in guys like AD.

People know he works already for both the Storm and Roosters in consultancy roles as well as Fox

He won't wreck his legacy and come here .....

That is why i don't think you would get him any role, the negative press he got from that was stupid, but I would be willing to share him with other clubs.

 

[happy_tiger]

Lots pushing Sheens barrow ..he won't have a Marshall , Farah , Hodgson , Gallaway , Payten , Gibbs , Heighnington , Ellis etc remember .......

 

[CarltonDry]

Lots pushing Sheens barrow ..he won't have a Marshall , Farah , Hodgson , Gallaway , Payten , Gibbs , Heighnington , Ellis etc remember .......

But he'll have a Kepoa Madden Tamou Roberts Seyfarth and the future immortal Hastings 🤷‍♂️😏

 

[Harvey]

With Sheens looking after pathways & development, all we need are a new strength and conditioning team and a couple of assistants that can look after video analysis, tactics & addressing the players. That should give Madge everything he needs to be a successful coach in the modern era

 

[Russell]

Now that the dust begins to settle on the failed coup to remove Michael Maguire it is again the shoddy manipulative Fox so called journalists who are left scrambling to cover their exposed backsides after their failed tactics to parachute their choice of coach into the Wests Tigers head coaching job. Yes you know who you are !! Sitting smugly behind those 360 desks and other Fox panels now trying to rewrite history that you so naively tried to construct. Absolutely pathetic ! I have no doubts you will all try to continue the destabilisation tactics all through 2022. At least MM has the dignity and honesty to own his errors. On this occasion you have failed miserably with your dishonest tactics. It is clear that you didn't have the Broncos to put your collective boot into this year. So your unrelenting target has been MM and WT club. I look forward to seeing the egg on your faces next year.

Good post Mate.

Also Chammas after all his efforts and lies trying to destabilise the WT for his own vendetta should resign.

He is a very nasty piece of work.

 

[CarltonDry]

With Sheens looking after pathways & development, all we need are a new strength and conditioning team and a couple of assistants that can look after video analysis, tactics & addressing the players. That should give Madge everything he needs to be a successful coach in the modern era

You left out a coach whisperer

 

[PJ_]

With so much oversight and ppl above him making decisions, you'd think Madge will be gone sooner rather than later. No way he makes it thru his contracted 2 years with the squad he has atm. He's going to need a couple of big signings to keep his job

I think that's a fair eveluation.

He won't survive if the squad stays the same. He needs to recruit a few improvements.

There’s nothing out there for 2022. His only hope is to land a couple big fish for 2023, and hope he survives that long for them to improve the side in his contract year.

Can't see him surviving another year like this year even with players coming in 23

 

[Russell]


Not sure if posted already but interesting to see the future captains opinion

That makes me question him as a future captain. Shows a lack of maturity.

He should be captain next season. We need a voice that plays hard, with passion and loves hard work. Our management need to sack themselves.

Needs to learn his position first, I think he will be a good captain, I want him making smarter choices than that though.

Anyway, its not the crime of century and I have made my point, I will leave it here.

Sounds like Douhie is reading his own press and believing his own hype, he has had some ordinary games too in 2021
He doesn't walk on water or the messiah for us at 6
He will be lucky to be in the squad for 2022 as a centre
If Brooks and Hastings fire He won't get a look in for the halves and will likely blow up and leave if he has to play centre

"Reading his own press and believing his own hype"? Is there 1 single example of Douiehi pumping his own tyres or stating that he is anything more than an ordinary team member? I don't think so. Bit harsh to accuse him of spruiking himself IMO, he hasn't said anything.

Absolutely correct FTB - not one single player in the team has put in more than AD (including Alphabet).

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Thoughts on Cooper Cronk as an assistant coach?..he has a good footy brain of the modern game

I would take him, even just as a halves consultant. He does really good work on leadership as well so could be good for developing leadership in guys like AD.

People know he works already for both the Storm and Roosters in consultancy roles as well as Fox

He won't wreck his legacy and come here .....

Didn't we have Head, and Kimmorley as a halves developers?:thinking_face: