Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[BAGNF05]

I think a lot of people on this forum , have got it all wrong , the board nor the chairman don’t coach the football team , they may be behind us not signing players , but the buck falls at the coaches feet . How can anyone on this forum support Madge when in the last 3 years our defence has gone from bad to out right pathetic, and our attack is nothing to right home about , all year I have sat and watched our defence do the must dum shit , yet it never changes so what the hell is the coach doing , he’s not addressing the situation or the players refuse to listen , then it’s his fault for not dropping them , the job of the coach is to coach and direct the team , and let’s face it , Madge has failed , not to do with the board , that’s not to say there are useless but that another story .

I also think a lot of people have got it wrong too !
Neither the board, the GM or the coach put the jersey on and run onto a playing field and dish up pathetic performances.
I'm pretty sure the coach hasn't missed a single tackle all season.
But you are right about our defence. Yes, it is pathetic. I have done some research and discovered that Madge, the board AND Pascoe haven't missed a single tackle all year. But I have uncovered the culprits. IT'S THE PLAYERS.
They are first grade. They shouldn't need anyone to show them how to tackle.
The ones you watch doing the dumb shit are indeed the ones who take the blame for our "pathetic" defence.

While I agree with you, the club accepts those standards when they don’t act. See what the Roosters do when a player doesn’t measure up? JTJ should be a memory at this club and our second rowers should really be on notice. I suspect we will see the same issues next year and that’s a weakness as we can’t seem to hold players accountable for poor performance.

 

[DJG]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

 

[mike]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

 

[hobbo1]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

Punt them …especially brooks

 

[avocadoontoast]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

 

[tigerbalm]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

why is that downvoted? fair enough question i think.

 

[DJG]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

So I had a look at the side in 2017 vs us.. we lost 8 - 28


In 2016.. we won 30-14


 

[Telltails]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

Tim Sheens maybe able to shed some light on that re 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.

 

[avocadoontoast]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

Tim Sheens maybe able to shed some light on that re 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.

But that's deflecting - we're not talking about Sheens. Mike said his excuse for 2019-2021 is the roster, and i'm asking what the excuse was for 2016 and 2017. It's a reasonable question.

 

[Tim Sheens]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

So I had a look at the side in 2017 vs us.. we lost 8 - 28


In 2016.. we won 30-14


You forgot the earlier round in 2016 and opening round in 2017 when Jason Taylor coached our WT to three consecutive wins over McGuire's bunnies.

 

[Tim Sheens]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

Tim Sheens maybe able to shed some light on that re 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.

But that's deflecting - we're not talking about Sheens. Mike said his excuse for 2019-2021 is the roster, and i'm asking what the excuse was for 2016 and 2017. It's a reasonable question.

Jason Taylor, oh hang on a minute, he coached them to two wins.

Edit; correction make that 3 wins.

 

[Tomatosoup912]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

God I hate this question, its such a short sighted attack on Madge.

In 2017, they had just lost Keary to the roosters and Inglis went down with a knee injury in round 1 for the season. Losing two of your spine is going to impact your teams capacity to compete.

Souths were in such state of salary cap transition post premiership success. We should give Madge some credit for bringing over Cook and starting him at hooker, debuting Walker, Crichton, Murray, Campbell - Graham and a bunch of others. Their development across 2016-17 were the foundation blocks of the 2018 success. I think Seibolds post Souths performances may be more indicative of him benefiting from Madge's work than Seibold turning around a dysfunctional side. At least Madge went on to succeed in England.

I know we are all broken inside, but I think the same foundations are being built by the Madge orientated players. Laurie, Douhei, Talau, Stefano, these are our chance at foundation blocks, similar to what I think Madge helped build at Souths, twice.

 

[DJG]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

God I hate this question, its such a short sighted attack on Madge.

In 2017, they had just lost Keary to the roosters and Inglis went down with a knee injury in round 1 for the season. Losing two of your spine is going to impact your teams capacity to compete.

Souths were in such state of salary cap transition post premiership success. We should give Madge some credit for bringing over Cook and starting him at hooker, debuting Walker, Crichton, Murray, Campbell - Graham and a bunch of others. Their development across 2016-17 were the foundation blocks of the 2018 success. I think Seibolds post Souths performances may be more indicative of him benefiting from Madge's work than Seibold turning around a dysfunctional side. At least Madge went on to succeed in England.

I know we are all broken inside, but I think the same foundations are being built by the Madge orientated players. Laurie, Douhei, Talau, Stefano, these are our chance at foundation blocks, similar to what I think Madge helped build at Souths, twice.

Amazing post @Tomatosoup912

This is exactly what is happening, Madge has cleaned the squad up alot from before.

People may complain and say "We brought BJ, Roberts, Musgrove" ect, but honestly if we fired him the next coach would come in with 2 Million to spend on the roster and have "success"

Slow and steady, Madge has it..

 

[avocadoontoast]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

God I hate this question, its such a short sighted attack on Madge.

In 2017, they had just lost Keary to the roosters and Inglis went down with a knee injury in round 1 for the season. Losing two of your spine is going to impact your teams capacity to compete.

Souths were in such state of salary cap transition post premiership success. We should give Madge some credit for bringing over Cook and starting him at hooker, debuting Walker, Crichton, Murray, Campbell - Graham and a bunch of others. Their development across 2016-17 were the foundation blocks of the 2018 success. I think Seibolds post Souths performances may be more indicative of him benefiting from Madge's work than Seibold turning around a dysfunctional side. At least Madge went on to succeed in England.

I know we are all broken inside, but I think the same foundations are being built by the Madge orientated players. Laurie, Douhei, Talau, Stefano, these are our chance at foundation blocks, similar to what I think Madge helped build at Souths, twice.

It really isn't though. Even with Inglis out for 2017 there were a blend of youth and high quality senior players - a way better squad than 12th. He simply couldn't get them firing. And look at the 2016 squad. If he could only get this team to 12th, what chance does he have getting us to the finals?

I think Seibold is hopeless but from the final round of 2017 to the opening round of 2018 they played a different style of football - that's why they had success. Madge ball doesn't work anymore.

 

[JC99]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

God I hate this question, its such a short sighted attack on Madge.

In 2017, they had just lost Keary to the roosters and Inglis went down with a knee injury in round 1 for the season. Losing two of your spine is going to impact your teams capacity to compete.

Souths were in such state of salary cap transition post premiership success. We should give Madge some credit for bringing over Cook and starting him at hooker, debuting Walker, Crichton, Murray, Campbell - Graham and a bunch of others. Their development across 2016-17 were the foundation blocks of the 2018 success. I think Seibolds post Souths performances may be more indicative of him benefiting from Madge's work than Seibold turning around a dysfunctional side. At least Madge went on to succeed in England.

I know we are all broken inside, but I think the same foundations are being built by the Madge orientated players. Laurie, Douhei, Talau, Stefano, these are our chance at foundation blocks, similar to what I think Madge helped build at Souths, twice.

It really isn't though. Even with Inglis out for 2017 there were a blend of youth and high quality senior players - a way better squad than 12th. He simply couldn't get them firing. And look at the 2016 squad. If he could only get this team to 12th, what chance does he have getting us to the finals?

I think Seibold is hopeless but from the final round of 2017 to the opening round of 2018 they played a different style of football - that's why they had success. Madge ball doesn't work anymore.

Don't understand the downvotes, you're right avo. Seibold has proven to be one of the worst first grade coaches we've ever seen and took that roster to third. Despite the youth in the squad Madge clearly failed to get them going and was deservedly sacked for it.

How anyone can watch a game Wests Tigers played this year and go "yeah, that's a well coached team with the foundations of success" because I haven't seen a more poorly coached team in a long time.

I get that people wanna back him cause he's confirmed to be around for the year and he'll have my support but he can't just be devoid of any blame all year long next year.

 

[tigerbalm]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

God I hate this question, its such a short sighted attack on Madge.

In 2017, they had just lost Keary to the roosters and Inglis went down with a knee injury in round 1 for the season. Losing two of your spine is going to impact your teams capacity to compete.

Souths were in such state of salary cap transition post premiership success. We should give Madge some credit for bringing over Cook and starting him at hooker, debuting Walker, Crichton, Murray, Campbell - Graham and a bunch of others. Their development across 2016-17 were the foundation blocks of the 2018 success. I think Seibolds post Souths performances may be more indicative of him benefiting from Madge's work than Seibold turning around a dysfunctional side. At least Madge went on to succeed in England.

I know we are all broken inside, but I think the same foundations are being built by the Madge orientated players. Laurie, Douhei, Talau, Stefano, these are our chance at foundation blocks, similar to what I think Madge helped build at Souths, twice.

Hi Madge. Welcome to the WTF. Great first post.

 

[Guest]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

why is that downvoted? fair enough question i think.

The cult don't like reasonable questions.
If they get hold of you you'll be audited.

 

[tigerbalm]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

why is that downvoted? fair enough question i think.

The cult don't like reasonable questions.
If they get hold of you you'll be audited.

Ill be a card carrying member if he can win some games next year. I want to be a Madgeadite, I just don't buy into the preaching's just yet.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

When Maguire retired from playing he initially left the game and taught physical education before signing as a strength and conditioning coach for Canberra.

He later became an assistant coach for the Raiders' reserve grade under Mal Meninga.

Maguire was eventually promoted to assistant coach of the Canberra first team alongside Matthew Elliott, before leaving the club in 2004 to take the assistant coaching job at Melbourne Storm under a former Raiders teammate, Craig Bellamy.

Maguire was an integral part in Melbourne's stripped NRL premierships and took control of first team affairs when head coach Bellamy took up representative duties for the Blues in State of Origin.

Some of Maguire's statistics, for me it's abit alarming seeing our win ratio very low.


So seeing this, you could say its the culture of the club and the lazy players - or you could say that Maguire has been out of the NRL for awhile and cant adjust to it anymore?

For me... I think its the lazy players we currently have and the cattle we can never get.

It’s the roster pure and simple.

What was his excuse at Souths in 2016 and 2017? They came 12th both seasons then Seibold got essentially the same roster to 3rd the following year.

why is that downvoted? fair enough question i think.

The cult don't like reasonable questions.
If they get hold of you you'll be audited.

Ill be a card carrying member if he can win some games next year. I want to be a Madgeadite, I just don't buy into the preaching's just yet.

You’d be a Madget

 

[frullens]

Ben Teo talks about Marge at South's- credits him for challenging Sam Burgess and lifting his game
- 5min mark
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3Mud2hvb3Noa2FhLmNvbS9yc3MvcG9kY2FzdC9pZC8xMDc2MQ&ep=14&episode=MDBlZDA5MmUtYTI1OS00NTNjLTgwMDYtNDJmZTUyNWNmMzQx