Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[momo_amp_medo]

On the phone shortly to cancel 12 premium membership .. the club is a failure and run by self serving individuals good luck with all of that ..3 seasons of failure how much FAILURE does it take !

Awwwww!

 

[JD Tiger]

I don't know, I'm not left with much hope after the way this season went.

So what's going to make season 2022 different to season 2021 for Wests Tigers?
How are we going to improve? Same players, same coach...

I hope the experts we have in the WT employ have some answers. They don't need to make the WT strategy public, the success of the strategy will be through the on-field results.

And there has to be a massive improvement next year. I mean a definite improvement clear to all in our defence, in our attack, and in our recruitment.

 

[avocadoontoast]

On the phone shortly to cancel 12 premium membership .. the club is a failure and run by self serving individuals good luck with all of that ..3 seasons of failure how much FAILURE does it take !

Awwwww!

Do you ever post about anything other than complaining about other posters? Grow up.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

On the phone shortly to cancel 12 premium membership .. the club is a failure and run by self serving individuals good luck with all of that ..3 seasons of failure how much FAILURE does it take !

Well it's a decade of failure mate. There's systemic problems at the club that run deeper than the coach.

 

[loklok]

Stability
Changes to staff when sheens comes on .
Thinking luke Brooks will be shafted

 

[Tiger5150]

I will now support him as I want what's best for the team but I am disappointed.

Whys that bro

Why what?

I thought you were alright with Madge...
This isn't the worst outcome.

Obviously he's on thin ice now..

No, i think it was time to move on, the club though differently

Agree with you COCHISE whole heartedly !!! Im completely lost with this decision and Pascoe comes out with that rubbish of a statement.

Why is it rubbish. It is quite possible that it is totally the most professional option they could make.

I wanted Madge gone....but that is on the assumption that he would be replaced by better. There is very little available at the moment and if a Ciraldo told the club "no thanks", then the actual most professional thing is not to dump Madge out of spite and appoint an inferior replacement.

 

[earl]

I think it's the right decision. I hope he gets the next two seasons as well but don't let him go out and stuff the cap.

 

[cktiger]

Hopefully he can get rid of some duds now and grab a few seasoned first graders to actually help the young blokes.
We’ll all be cheering when we crack the 8, or better, next year.

 

[Nelson]

So the review found nothing wrong. Wow

Hopefully it found many problems (because clearly there are many) but determined that the answer was not just sacking the head coach (again). I'd like to see:
- some of our long term failures dumped to reggies so they move on, or at least stop being anchors on the first grade squad; and
- a shake up of the assistant coaches.

 

[Tiger5150]

So the review found nothing wrong. Wow

Is that what the press release said? Nothing about structural changes?

 

[gallagher]

Hopefully he can get rid of some duds now and grab a few seasoned first graders to actually help the young blokes.
We’ll all be cheering when we crack the 8, or better, next year.

I feel the only blokes we will sign will be average first graders on big coin.

 

[hobbo1]

Now to tell Brooks and Nofoalooza to look elsewhere

 

[gallagher]

So the review found nothing wrong. Wow

Is that what the press release said? Nothing about structural changes?

No beef on those bones. He blamed covid though.

 

[Tiger5150]

I can live with that.

They need to get the assistants right and they need to start shopping Luke Brooks immediately.

We are actually really short in the halves already

Doesnt matter to some, we need to BURN everything to the ground....

 

[weststigerman]

On the phone shortly to cancel 12 premium membership .. the club is a failure and run by self serving individuals good luck with all of that ..3 seasons of failure how much FAILURE does it take !

There are people cancelling their membership if Madge is safe, and probably just as many cancelling if he's gone and Pascoe stays.

The only constant is the need to stop being a failure which I think we can all agree on.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Been glued to this thread for 24hrs and look away then wow…not sure what to think after the buildup.

 

[loklok]

Lot supporters will disagree with the boards decision.
They are still taking long term approach. Club finicially going well .plus our lower grades were coming along nicely .let's keep pursuing young players to make all squads stronger.COME ON DOWN SHEENSY

 

[PJ_]

I wonder what Madge is making of all this?

Is it all worth it?

Granted the club hasn’t actually said anything, but they have let the journo’s run him down without any protection.

His stress levels must be through the roof, hopefully they have spoken to him privately with there thoughts otherwise he might just tell them to go to hell.

Well he can’t be thinking that he has done a wonderful job to date. Surely he can’t be thinking that he has improved the team.

Madge was here to fix the culture and weed out the bad eggs, unfortunately it looks like the bad eggs are going to win as everyone is too impatient to see it through

It’s not a lack of patience, I don’t think anyone could accuse WT fans of having no patience. It’s about his coaching ability. Our defence has progressively worsened each year since he arrived. That’s not the boards fault or Pascoes fault, that’s his fault.

You could extend him for 10 years and it wouldn’t make no difference. His coaching style doesn’t work anymore and he can’t adapt. He’s done.

Also, the comment about him coming on board to fix the culture and weed out the bad eggs is rubbish. That’s a recent narrative that was created to excuse his failures. He said he could make finals with the squad he had. Ironically I also think he’s managed to make the culture worse which is an achievement in itself.

Completely disagree, I think it’s 100% lack of patience. Everyone knows Madges style being a hard trainer and tough etc. similar to Bellamy. That’s what the club needed and still does need in my opinion. The only difference now is the problem players or bad eggs are pushing back because they are being challenged to improve and it’s making them uncomfortable. They would prefer to sack the coach and have a few more years leeway before any pressure is applied again.

Is that why they cant tackle? Or the same gaps open in defence with the same regularity every game?

Do you think Madge teaches them how to leave gaps and miss tackles at training?

He is obviously not teaching them not to.

Haha I can’t agree with that. I think the rule changes which has increased the speed of the game and brought in more fatigue, along with a number of rookies has caused the defensive issues with the team

I thought one of Madge's strong suits was he trained the team hard, we should be able to deal with fatigue better than most?

I don't think we look fatigued at all, imo they seemed fitter than normal.
Our second halves tended to be better and we came back at some sides.
We just looked like we didn't want to be there.
I can hack getting beaten by skill while we don't have the cattle, but getting beaten by effort pisses me off

To be clear though I actually disagree. A lot of our players may had looked ‘fitter’ but a lot of them looked like they had lost a lot of Kilos.
Look at the difference between the size of Tamou in the GF to him in round 1 2021. Joffa at Brisbane and Joffa at the tigers. They stripped down a lot.

But fatigue can not be only measured from a physical perspective, there is such thing as mental fatigue. I’m not sure I saw a lack of effort from the playing group as much as you.

I saw a roster of recently assembled recruits and some rookies try to stop the roll on each game and lack the physicality to do so.

Maybe the preseason did strip too much muscle off the boys I don’t know. But it all came down to us being unable to match the big guys at the speed of the play the ball.

Quick play the ball and our attack would capitalise which explained the quick points at stages through the year. On the other side a quick play the ball to the opposition had us back pedaling.
That is not a defensive tactic, that was the team playing catch up once the odds went against them.

I think the mental fatigue can be put down to experience. Knowing when to go 100% and when to dial it off

 

[Guest]

So now we move on.
Until we do this all again next September.
It'll be a nice relaxing 2022 with no expectation of any improvement.