Maguire Signs Until End of 2023

[TrueTiger]

No need to upgrade him yet .....he hasn't earned it just yet

I like Madge and his attitude to hard work...if our team starts to take shape,show some guts and determination on the way to finals,then in my opinion the 'sins of the past coaches and recruitment' can be forgiven....cant really say he hasnt earnt it yet,we dont know what the inner sanctums opinion is..BUT I know that your main EXCUSE will be he hasnt won games or made the finals..

It is pretty hard to make an effort when your hands have been tied...it appears the ties have come off and Madge is doing his very best for the team and club...

When my dad was a live he took me to games at high school and his big statement to me always stands""win,lose or draw I dont care as long as you did your very best then I will be proud of you and your efforts"""

 

[twentyforty]

Presumably we sacked Sheens because we were running 9th. This is where we set the bar so we then sacked the following coaches because we were running 9th. Making decisions following a couple of spoons is not something we’ve had to deal with? IDK? It would require a complete change of direction?



Sheens was at our club far to long and he promoted the "boys club" mentality which has only just been removed.Madge is trying to establish a winning culture and he needs till end 2023 imho

What would you say should be a good average stay for a coach? Has last years premiership winning coach overstayed?
What’s your interpretation of “boys club” mentality? Nepotism? I always thought the underlying reason for Sheen’s sacking was because the bond that he helped to build between the players eventually turned on him. He had a Frankenstein moment.
The reason for Sheens departure was given to journos as lack of success, but hindsight has revealed his Frankenstein moment came when he tried to move on a couple of players to Sharks. In a rather ironic twist, players have been sacking coaches ever since. I’m all in for Madge’s efforts in establishing a wining culture, but as Sheens pointed out back then, one person doesn’t make a winning culture. It needs to come from everyone in the organisation and filter to external partners.

 

[mike]

Steve Noyce hired Tim Sheens on a handshake. Both accepted each other’s word. It took over 12 months for them to put together a contract.

And how did it go when they asked Sheensie to leave?

We won a premiership on a handshake. By the time Tim Sheens was asked to leave, contracts and lawyers were involved and Steve Noyce wasn’t.

 

[jadtiger]

Presumably we sacked Sheens because we were running 9th. This is where we set the bar so we then sacked the following coaches because we were running 9th. Making decisions following a couple of spoons is not something we’ve had to deal with? IDK? It would require a complete change of direction?



Sheens was at our club far to long and he promoted the "boys club" mentality which has only just been removed.Madge is trying to establish a winning culture and he needs till end 2023 imho

What would you say should be a good average stay for a coach? Has last years premiership winning coach overstayed?
What’s your interpretation of “boys club” mentality? Nepotism? I always thought the underlying reason for Sheen’s sacking was because the bond that he helped to build between the players eventually turned on him. He had a Frankenstein moment.
The reason for Sheens departure was given to journos as lack of success, but hindsight has revealed his Frankenstein moment came when he tried to move on a couple of players to Sharks. In a rather ironic twist, players have been sacking coaches ever since. I’m all in for Madge’s efforts in establishing a wining culture, but as Sheens pointed out back then, one person doesn’t make a winning culture. It needs to come from everyone in the organisation and filter to external partners.

A coach should serve 5-6 years maximum imo,usually to get a club out of a hole you need that long and a slice of luck to go with it
Sheens kept on trying to play 2005 footy despite the fact the game had evolved,for whatever reason he failed to adjust to needing a more power game.I am sure we can all remember his failed experiments of putting 2nd row forwards at prop with terrible results not to mention continuing to use Johnie Cronk at half despite it being obvious it was a square peg for a round hole.

I will always thank him for 2005 but realistically he should have been moved on by 2008.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Not sure where to post. To save you some trouble skip to around the 16minute mark.

https://media.whooshkaa.com/show/10761/episode/764226.mp3

Good link.

Interesting when they raised the ? about Mcintyre well Madge stated around salary cap issues, seems off when they sign Jet not long after. Unfortunately interviewers don't ask the right questions should have followed up with that rumor was that never offered a contract.

Madge is a spin doctor like the rest of them and does not seem to be that upfront after listening to this broadcast.

Other question not asked was if he has he signed the 2 year extension that was tabled??

 

[Swordy]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

If we don't make the 8 next year Madge has to go.
That simple, no excuses

Something Wayne Bennett said he learned from another great coach. You don't let a player go unless you have someone better to replace them!

On the Coaching Market, Maguire is probably the best coach we can get. We could have traded him for Anthony Griffin, who is a very similar coach. As for other standouts, Laurie Daily would be the only other coach that I rate. At club level he is untested.

I don't care, make the 8 or gone would be my communication with Madge for next year, that simple, no excuses.

I think need to be fair on Madge the roster he still has is a hangover from prior and with big $ still tied up with Packer/Mybe/Reynolds. Some however may be getting excited about recent signings however still skeptical.

Tamou - Good Team Player however twilight of career - 2 years is acceptable.

U2Karma (Abbreviated name) - Only 3 appearances in Top grade with Eels total 24 Mins only 20 - Tamou replacement in 2 years if gets game time?

Jet - History of issues with other clubs, unproven if can last a full season only played 6 games last season, 2 year deal club option year 2 - Low $ signing

Mono - Back from the storm solid player will add depth in the centre positions if injuries or may start?

Joe Off - Reasonable signing from a team that won the spoon, tackle efficiency last season 87.9% needs to rediscover some form under Madge???

Blore - 1st full season and off season with us.
Played 5 games last season we lost all 5.
Looks a good prospect if can stay off social media.

So when you look at above i would not overly excited about signing in the off season.

Some we have lost for 2021.

Aloiai - Left for more $ understandable not the right way in leaving the club with dignity, solid player however.

Eisenhuth - Played some good games last season understand why was not retained but a solid player for us.

Grant - Standout we would have kept if we could.

Lawrence - Club player end of career played some good games at centre and covered depth when required.

Marshall - Club stalwart but father time with D caught up, attacking player with experience that could enable points.

Mcintyre - Was not offered a contract, played well for us and improved club disappointed lots of supporters with non loyalty in developing talent and letting go.

Taylor - Solid player nil fuss type some good D work during the season when given game time, understand why not retained but performed well over a few seasons.

So looking at this review how confident are you that the Roster has dramatically improved for 2021???

I am not really convinced, however agree Madge should have at least been offered a 1 year extension, was offered 2 but nothing on pen to paper, No issue offered extension 2 years but expectation would be 8 both these years, if has not signed the extension by start of season i would be offering John Morris a contract (Sharks) for 2 years.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.

Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

 

[earl]

So looking at this review how confident are you that the Roster has dramatically improved for 2021???

I don't think we've improved. Grant is a great player. Aloiai is a high quality forward. They are massive losses. Benji had his faults but he can create something as well. Lawrence- ran hard and always did his job. ET - he is a good player. McIntyre - he did the job.

The thing is we've been signing better players as well and if they develop we may improve. AD, Blore, Stef, Liddle, Simpkins, Talau and Kepaoa all have improvement in them.

The reality is we have to get rid of Reynolds, Packer and Mbye because they aren't good value. I can see Mbye having a good season this year and Packer being able to play a couple of games to a high quality so we may get some value out of them.

I don't see how you could bet on us making the 8 next year. That would be a massive over achievement.

 

[rustycage]

Here I thought it was a coaches job to get the best out of players he has at his disposal...

Maybe he has

 

[Hangonaminute]

If we don't make the 8 next year Madge has to go.
That simple, no excuses

Something Wayne Bennett said he learned from another great coach. You don't let a player go unless you have someone better to replace them!

On the Coaching Market, Maguire is probably the best coach we can get. We could have traded him for Anthony Griffin, who is a very similar coach. As for other standouts, Laurie Daily would be the only other coach that I rate. At club level he is untested.

I don't care, make the 8 or gone would be my communication with Madge for next year, that simple, no excuses.


I think need to be fair on Madge the roster he still has is a hangover from prior and with big $ still tied up with Packer/Mybe/Reynolds. Some however may be getting excited about recent signings however still skeptical.

Tamou - Good Team Player however twilight of career - 2 years is acceptable.

U2Karma (Abbreviated name) - Only 3 appearances in Top grade with Eels total 24 Mins only 20 - Tamou replacement in 2 years if gets game time?

Jet - History of issues with other clubs, unproven if can last a full season only played 6 games last season, 2 year deal club option year 2 - Low $ signing

Mono - Back from the storm solid player will add depth in the centre positions if injuries or may start?

Joe Off - Reasonable signing from a team that won the spoon, tackle efficiency last season 87.9% needs to rediscover some form under Madge???

Blore - 1st full season and off season with us.
Played 5 games last season we lost all 5.
Looks a good prospect if can stay off social media.

So when you look at above i would not overly excited about signing in the off season.

Some we have lost for 2021.

Aloiai - Left for more $ understandable not the right way in leaving the club with dignity, solid player however.

Eisenhuth - Played some good games last season understand why was not retained but a solid player for us.

Grant - Standout we would have kept if we could.

Lawrence - Club player end of career played some good games at centre and covered depth when required.

Marshall - Club stalwart but father time with D caught up, attacking player with experience that could enable points.

Mcintyre - Was not offered a contract, played well for us and improved club disappointed lots of supporters with non loyalty in developing talent and letting go.

Taylor - Solid player nil fuss type some good D work during the season when given game time, understand why not retained but performed well over a few seasons.

So looking at this review how confident are you that the Roster has dramatically improved for 2021???

I am not really convinced, however agree Madge should have at least been offered a 1 year extension, was offered 2 but nothing on pen to paper, No issue offered extension 2 years but expectation would be 8 both these years, if has not signed the extension by start of season i would be offering John Morris a

contract (Sharks) for 2 years.

So when we get our next coach how many years does he get to miss the 8 before he gets his own team? 3,4?

You can't keep saying "we'll it's not the team he wants" otherwise 20 yrs will go by and we'll still be waiting for our coach to get his perfect team.
Coaches take the job knowing what the team will be, every new coach gets a hangover from the previous coach, tired of excuses

 

[Tigerbuck63]

If we don't make the 8 next year Madge has to go.
That simple, no excuses

Something Wayne Bennett said he learned from another great coach. You don't let a player go unless you have someone better to replace them!

On the Coaching Market, Maguire is probably the best coach we can get. We could have traded him for Anthony Griffin, who is a very similar coach. As for other standouts, Laurie Daily would be the only other coach that I rate. At club level he is untested.

I don't care, make the 8 or gone would be my communication with Madge for next year, that simple, no excuses.


I think need to be fair on Madge the roster he still has is a hangover from prior and with big $ still tied up with Packer/Mybe/Reynolds. Some however may be getting excited about recent signings however still skeptical.

Tamou - Good Team Player however twilight of career - 2 years is acceptable.

U2Karma (Abbreviated name) - Only 3 appearances in Top grade with Eels total 24 Mins only 20 - Tamou replacement in 2 years if gets game time?

Jet - History of issues with other clubs, unproven if can last a full season only played 6 games last season, 2 year deal club option year 2 - Low $ signing

Mono - Back from the storm solid player will add depth in the centre positions if injuries or may start?

Joe Off - Reasonable signing from a team that won the spoon, tackle efficiency last season 87.9% needs to rediscover some form under Madge???

Blore - 1st full season and off season with us.
Played 5 games last season we lost all 5.
Looks a good prospect if can stay off social media.

So when you look at above i would not overly excited about signing in the off season.

Some we have lost for 2021.

Aloiai - Left for more $ understandable not the right way in leaving the club with dignity, solid player however.

Eisenhuth - Played some good games last season understand why was not retained but a solid player for us.

Grant - Standout we would have kept if we could.

Lawrence - Club player end of career played some good games at centre and covered depth when required.

Marshall - Club stalwart but father time with D caught up, attacking player with experience that could enable points.

Mcintyre - Was not offered a contract, played well for us and improved club disappointed lots of supporters with non loyalty in developing talent and letting go.

Taylor - Solid player nil fuss type some good D work during the season when given game time, understand why not retained but performed well over a few seasons.

So looking at this review how confident are you that the Roster has dramatically improved for 2021???

I am not really convinced, however agree Madge should have at least been offered a 1 year extension, was offered 2 but nothing on pen to paper, No issue offered extension 2 years but expectation would be 8 both these years, if has not signed the extension by start of season i would be offering John Morris a
contract (Sharks) for 2 years.

So when we get our next coach how many years does he get to miss the 8 before he gets his own team? 3,4?

You can't keep saying "we'll it's not the team he wants" otherwise 20 yrs will go by and we'll still be waiting for our coach to get his perfect team.
Coaches take the job knowing what the team will be, every new coach gets a hangover from the previous coach, tired of excuses

Good question however i think things have changed in club land over the past few years.

Mangers/Players have been looking for long term contracts as we have found out with players like Brooks/Mybe/Packer/Reynolds within our club but things have changed.

I can't see Players now being offered any more than 3 years.
The same should be for the coaches, this is Madge's 3rd year here, club offered a 2 year extension, if you believe in your current crop and changes in roster commit.

If Madge fails in making the 8 both years 2022/23 i would look elsewhere.

If you don't lets find someone that is available that has played for the club and made the 8 with a limited roster like us.

Former newer players seem to be the norm now being signed to clubs as they better understand the playing group.

 

[Swordy]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.

Mcintyre - a BS reply salary cap. (That's what i don't like)
Quote from Player was not even offered a contract to stay.

Current deal Wests Tigers have come to terms with Michael Maguire on a three-year, $2.5 million deal.

I think most supporters happy to back Madge but he should sign prior to this season commencing as we all know a verbal agreement means nothing.

I would be happy to also let him go and get John Morris from Cronulla considering they have not offered an extension.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.

Ps not the Spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast but rather they ask relevant ? than just excepting a blatant BS reply.

 

[Tiger5150]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.


Mcintyre - a BS reply salary cap. (That's what i don't like)
Quote from Player was not even offered a contract to stay.

More than one thing can be true at once.

Let assume that the report that he wasnt offered a contract is true (nothing to prove that but lets assume). It could also be true that McIntyre could have come to the club and said "I have been offered $XXXK from the Titans which for arguments sake could be $ 150-200K more than we were going to offer *due to salary cap pressure* and we said "Good luck mate".

 

[happy_tiger]

No need to upgrade him yet .....he hasn't earned it just yet

I like Madge and his attitude to hard work...if our team starts to take shape,show some guts and determination on the way to finals,then in my opinion the 'sins of the past coaches and recruitment' can be forgiven....cant really say he hasnt earnt it yet,we dont know what the inner sanctums opinion is..BUT I know that your main EXCUSE will be he hasnt won games or made the finals..

It is pretty hard to make an effort when your hands have been tied...it appears the ties have come off and Madge is doing his very best for the team and club...

When my dad was a live he took me to games at high school and his big statement to me always stands""win,lose or draw I dont care as long as you did your very best then I will be proud of you and your efforts"""

So you've still got your 14th place award .....

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.


Mcintyre - a BS reply salary cap. (That's what i don't like)
Quote from Player was not even offered a contract to stay.



More than one thing can be true at once.

Let assume that the report that he wasnt offered a contract is true (nothing to prove that but lets assume). It could also be true that McIntyre could have come to the club and said "I have been offered $XXXK from the Titans which for arguments sake could be $ 150-200K more than we were going to offer *due to salary cap pressure* and we said "Good luck mate".

Your point warranted however we let so many players go and Madge even stated wanted to retain - no offer is unacceptable.

Salary cap pressure we signed Jimmy the Jet instead another former Souths player. Lets just see how that works out on BJ form this last season not that great maybe?????

 

[Tiger5150]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.


Mcintyre - a BS reply salary cap. (That's what i don't like)
Quote from Player was not even offered a contract to stay.



More than one thing can be true at once.

Let assume that the report that he wasnt offered a contract is true (nothing to prove that but lets assume). It could also be true that McIntyre could have come to the club and said "I have been offered $XXXK from the Titans which for arguments sake could be $ 150-200K more than we were going to offer *due to salary cap pressure* and we said "Good luck mate".


Your point warranted however we let so many players go and Madge even stated wanted to retain - no offer is unacceptable.

Salary cap pressure we signed Jimmy the Jet instead another former Souths player. Lets just see how that works out on BJ form this last season not that great maybe?????

Jimmy the jet is on $20K over minimum wage. Someone has to have that roster slot and you are literally getting a recent SOO player on minimum wage, so yes, that helps enormously with salary cap pressure.

With regards to no offer unacceptable, speaking for myself personally, I wouldn't embarrass myself offering someone I respected $200K less, I would just say "great mate, good luck".

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Just listened to the interview. I didn't hear or comprehend anything that was negative and I didn't lose any respect for the coach. Some of the rumours around things at this place are just perpetuated by grizzling sooks on this forum, probably undercover journos, player managers and people who wear tin foil hats. Sort through that garbage and away we go.

I hope he re-signs and if the fans supported him like they should, we wouldn't be having these conversations.


Its because the Interviewers don't ask any hard questions its a boys club they all look after each other.
Why was Mcintyre not offered a contract.
Have you put pen to paper on a 2 year extension.
Cricket questions seriously ??????

To be honest, I thought the McIntyre questions was answered. He would have liked to keep him, he was fond of him, but salary cap pressures dont make it easy to retain these players.

And his own contract, not sure its worthy of mention either. I'd like him to stay, but has a formal offer been made to extend him? he has not put pen to paper on an extension, otherwise it would have been announced. So why even ask that question? It was reported some time ago that he has agreed verbally to the extension, but there is interest elsewhere and he will sign when he is good and ready, not because he is pressured into it because of a question in a podcast. I can understand why he has not formally signed, especially with a Melbourne opportunity coming up. He is probably, and expectedly, see where WT is heading into 2021 and the same with Melbourne.

Not sure why you expect the spanish inquisition on a run of the mill podcast.


Mcintyre - a BS reply salary cap. (That's what i don't like)
Quote from Player was not even offered a contract to stay.



More than one thing can be true at once.

Let assume that the report that he wasnt offered a contract is true (nothing to prove that but lets assume). It could also be true that McIntyre could have come to the club and said "I have been offered $XXXK from the Titans which for arguments sake could be $ 150-200K more than we were going to offer *due to salary cap pressure* and we said "Good luck mate".


Your point warranted however we let so many players go and Madge even stated wanted to retain - no offer is unacceptable.

Salary cap pressure we signed Jimmy the Jet instead another former Souths player. Lets just see how that works out on BJ form this last season not that great maybe?????


Jimmy the jet is on $20K over minimum wage. Someone has to have that roster slot and you are literally getting a recent SOO player on minimum wage, so yes, that helps enormously with salary cap pressure.

With regards to no offer unacceptable, speaking for myself personally, I wouldn't embarrass myself offering someone I respected $200K less, I would just say "great mate, good luck".

So you would be happy for your employer to replace you without giving you the benefit of a negotiation prior to see if a suitable arrangement can be negotiated?