Matt Lodge New York thread

Reading about his hearing today, I can only imagine what his poor parents must be going through: a kid on the verge of big things, throwing it all away for nothing. He even looks like a big kid.

Just seems very sad, can't even be trusted to party without becoming a criminal. I mean it's one thing to be involved in drugs or have trouble with the drink and get involved in scuffles or stupidity (like Todd Carney), but this is a whole new level of criminality.

The one thing that does get in my craw however is that Lodge is pretty much being sacrificed on this one, because he is in the US and because his victims were so random and anonymous. That somehow it is worse to punch a guy and threaten girls you don't know, but if you beat up your partner, well that can be pardoned and hushed up. I'm not going to go into the list of allegations, but we all know there are a good number of footballers running around with very poor domestic pasts. I'm not saying Lodge deserves to get off, but he is potentially facing the kind of treatment that many of his peers have managed to dodge.
 
@jirskyr said:
Reading about his hearing today, I can only imagine what his poor parents must be going through: a kid on the verge of big things, throwing it all away for nothing. He even looks like a big kid.

Just seems very sad, can't even be trusted to party without becoming a criminal. I mean it's one thing to be involved in drugs or have trouble with the drink and get involved in scuffles or stupidity (like Todd Carney), but this is a whole new level of criminality.

The one thing that does get in my craw however is that Lodge is pretty much being sacrificed on this one, because he is in the US and because his victims were so random and anonymous. That somehow it is worse to punch a guy and threaten girls you don't know, but if you beat up your partner, well that can be pardoned and hushed up. I'm not going to go into the list of allegations, but we all know there are a good number of footballers running around with very poor domestic pasts. I'm not saying Lodge deserves to get off, but he is potentially facing the kind of treatment that many of his peers have managed to dodge.
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I think that's because he has gone well above smacking his partner around (and in no way do I phrase that as if it's a nothing offence, because I abhor DV,) and threatened to kill people. Couple this with teh fact that he's in the US and they don't tolerate crap.

If it had happened here, he'd have been looking at significantly less severe punishment. Russell Packer beat a bloke to within an inch of his life and served a year.
 
@MacDougall said:
I had a psychotic episode and this sounds like one. That's all.
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I agree Mac . It sounds like it to me too.I sympathise with anyone who has these issues. I really hope he gets help for it but he is now stuck in the american system. So thats going to be hard.

I also feel sorry for the poor victims, especially the good samaritan who somehow was locked outside with Lodge going nuts in his house with his wife and kids in there.

What concerns me though, whatever it was, a phsycotic episode or not, it was not the first time.
Why has he or his parents not got him help for it and let him loose in America?
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@jirskyr said:
Reading about his hearing today, I can only imagine what his poor parents must be going through: a kid on the verge of big things, throwing it all away for nothing. He even looks like a big kid.

Just seems very sad, can't even be trusted to party without becoming a criminal. I mean it's one thing to be involved in drugs or have trouble with the drink and get involved in scuffles or stupidity (like Todd Carney), but this is a whole new level of criminality.

The one thing that does get in my craw however is that Lodge is pretty much being sacrificed on this one, because he is in the US and because his victims were so random and anonymous. That somehow it is worse to punch a guy and threaten girls you don't know, but if you beat up your partner, well that can be pardoned and hushed up. I'm not going to go into the list of allegations, but we all know there are a good number of footballers running around with very poor domestic pasts. I'm not saying Lodge deserves to get off, but he is potentially facing the kind of treatment that many of his peers have managed to dodge.

I think that's because he has gone well above smacking his partner around (and in no way do I phrase that as if it's a nothing offence, because I abhor DV,) and threatened to kill people. Couple this with teh fact that he's in the US and they don't tolerate crap.

If it had happened here, he'd have been looking at significantly less severe punishment. Russell Packer beat a bloke to within an inch of his life and served a year.
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Abhor domestic violence as well, so agree with both of the above, but Lodge's offence is bad. The big thing for me is that he had multiple opportunities to stop, but at each point he chose to carry on and commit another crime.
 
It isn't as though he is a cleanskin re domestic violence; the charges he is facing in Australia are to do with his his ex girlfriend.

In any case, he no longer plays for us so, for me, there is considerably less interest in the outcomes. He's just a bloke who has fallen foul of US justice.
 
His matter is next in court in February and he had to surrender his passport,he will need a lot of support to stay out of further trouble for 4 months, would his RLPA membership assist him in this issue?
 
They have taken his passport and his case will not be heard until next Febuary so has to stay state side with all the living costs involved with that ….add the expected minimum 250k for defence probable more this guy is in a lot of trouble and probable bankruptcy at 20 and looking at serious goal time ..the talk of footy for this guy is over
 
Must admit I am thinking more about his parents at this point , the financial burden plus the emotional one they already have, will cause more grief for them.
My son is in his 30's and hopefully past all this , but if he wasn't ,I would do everything in my power to keep him out of prison over there.
 
@bp tiger said:
RUBBISH IF HIS PARENTS HAD KICKED HIM IN THE ARSE, 3 OFFENCES AGO HE MAY NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION.
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His history would indicate that throughout his life he has almost always been let loose to continue without any real guidance or the needed discipline. With a loose cannon anything can happen and it has.
 
You are living in a dream world CB, if you thump your kid and a schoolteacher notices a bruise , or the kid complains to same teacher, you will be on the inside looking out.
BTW, my old man clouted me and my teachers caned me when required and I know what respect is, but it can't be done anymore, good luck if you try
 
Well this could be even more interesting than Lodge…but I suggest if you want to discuss parenting 101 start a thread in the General Discussion section...
 
@rex2ce said:
You are living in a dream world CB, if you thump your kid and a schoolteacher notices a bruise , or the kid complains to same teacher, you will be on the inside looking out.
BTW, my old man clouted me and my teachers caned me when required and I know what respect is, but it can't be done anymore, good luck if you try
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Difference between giving your kid a clip over the ear (which is all I copped as a kid,) and bashing seven shades out of them. That's out and out abuse and deserves to have the book thrown at it.

As Geo says, we've digressed so if you want to chat more feel free to PM me :slight_smile:
 
i thin legally you're still allowed to smack your kids below the waist level but definitely can't slap under the ears.

i used to think smacking should be allowed to discipline but i think many parents are using it now to vent frustration in a physical way rather than as a threatening tool to discipline.
 
@bp tiger said:
RUBBISH IF HIS PARENTS HAD KICKED HIM IN THE ARSE, 3 OFFENCES AGO HE MAY NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION.
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Agree 100 percent BP. You don't have to be the owner of too much grey matter to conclude that Lodge is a tearaway who thinks he is above reproach. I think his parents would have been on a hiding to nothing trying to discipline this clown once he was touted as ' the next RL superstar'. Political correctness has ceased a parents right to legitamally pull their kids into line… there is no doubt that is a major part of society's problems nowadays. No doubt at all.
 
It's simply a respect thing.

Young people these days lack respect in so many ways. My belief is that it is poor parenting so it must be a generational thing, too.

My parents taught me respect and right from wrong. I have done the same with my 4 sons who are all adults now. I can honestly say we have all turned out ok.

I read today about owners of a cafe in North Sydney somewhere who had a playroom for kids. Sadly, they had to close it because parents let their kids run wild, drawing on walls, screaming relentlessly, taking patrons food. When staff politely asked for them to keep their kids quiet they were apparently abused or completely ignored.

Worst of all the parents changed nappies and left the dirty ones on the dining tables and left.

The cafe was losing patrons quick smart so they closed the kids room. As I said - no respect. Me, me, me attitude.

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