Meyer: cambo has once last chance

[wtfl1981]

What were the last five games at LO? Would like to know.

Here is the last 4 years, both suburban grounds.

Yup. Campbelltown does it tough :unamused:

2010

Campbelltown

Easts
Auckland
Gold Coast
Penrith

Leichhardt

Canberra
Nth Qld
Cronulla
Melbourne

2011

Campbelltown

Warriors
Penrith
Canterbury
Gold Coast

Leichhardt

Canberra
Newcastle
Melbourne
Easts
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2012

Campbelltown

Canberra
Nth Qld
Penrith
Parramatta

Leichhardt

Cronull
Warriors
Easts
Melbourne

2013

Campbelltown

Penrith
Brisbane
Canberra
Manly

Leichhardt

Parramatta
Nth Qld
Melbourne
Auckland

What about Souths? Bulldogs? st.george-illawarra or Newcastle at these venues? Espec CSS?

Can't believe WT have never played Souths at Campbeltown..

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[southerntiger]

My opinion is that magpie fans hate the fact that we are called tigers and not magpies and that the media leaves the wests out of their description, therefore giving them no identity and these same supporters blame the weather, scheduling, opposition etc for not attending games. Mayer is trying to scare the fans into action and this may backfire. Whatever eventuates we are the Wests tigers, have been for 15 yrs and that isnt going to change and for a Balmain tigers "fossil" its something i have to accept as well.

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[1_4_chicken_chips]

The Nrl do issue passes for wests juniors ,but the boys have not yet received them from Wests junior rugby league .
Pathetic crowd at Cambo ,with no excuses , conditions were perfect for football , ground was in perfect condition .We old Western suburbs fans all know Cambo has never been a real part in the Mighty Western suburbs Magpies so the argument is getting stale 16 k in teaming rain on a bogged field says it all .the price argument does not wash either ,same prices at all venues .

 

[Craig]

What about Souths? Bulldogs? st.george-illawarra or Newcastle at these venues? Espec CSS?

Can't believe WT have never played Souths at Campbeltown..

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Are you the one who has been posting about Homebush and them getting to choose their games? (Couldn't remember who it was)

That's the answer.

Simple fact is, we need to accept the suburban grounds will mostly get the lesser games. Homebush want the bigger drawing games, and given they stump up 100k for us to play there, and (Per earlier posts) Campbelltown charge us 25k to play there, you can't really blame them.

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

What I can't believe is there are people on here saying how barren it looked on TV complaining ? Why were you not there? I wonder what the crowd at LCO would gave been if people had the option of watching the game live on TV in the comfort of their home? It would have been a great night at home considering a lot of the West is now supporting the Wanderers. One game finished the other started all live on their Foxtel?Plenty of my mates would not come down or they would of missed the Wanderers game

I was at CS and LO and whoever doesn't show up your lose.I don't think you have the write to complain if you don't attend. Got to agree seemed like 9-10 crowd I was shocked when they announced it?? :bash

 

[wtfl1981]

Just a comment on Campbelltown history..

It has been a complex journey since 1987

There are multiple factors about the identity of their local team.

Wests Magpies were an import back in 1987 and many then did not embrace an inner sydney team.

Magpies did eventually make Campbelltown their fulltime home and the community made it theirs also. I know a name change was on the cards (Macarthur Magpies)

Then comes WT in 2000\. Apart from the emotional components of no longer being stand alone in NRL, majority of these Magpies fans embraced WT with 6 games at Campbelltown (even WT training at Campbellown etc).

Mixed on-field success from 00-04 and poor financial management of WT lead them to taking up the then Telstra stadium deal and a concord base..

LO and CSS were down to 3 games a year and no training presence in the south west. Campbelltown became a part time almost away game for WT.

Add that to Wests Leagues Campbelltown club who found that game days were a pain in the but for them (parking, drunks, etc). There is also the political tension/separation between Ashfield/WSDRLFC and Campbelltown to add to the mix.

Moving to 2014, i still feel that $$$ is driving the motive of moving all games to ANZ. That is why the attention (twitter) from Mayer.

To me its not a magpies vs Balmain traditional base thing although i do feel that there is a lot of media attention, hype and unbalanced focus on LO (spiritual home of the tigers etc) then what is given to Campbelltown in the same manner.. Looking at the stats over time both venues draws about the same. Simply, WT just don't want to pay Council $25k per game.

I would also suggest that there are some grumbling between WT and Council which may also be a reason behind this attention.

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[live_like_a_hero]

I went to the game last and the all the other home games this year plus the saint away game.Funny thing is that i thought that with the teams recent form i believed that the game would get more than LO GAME. as we all know there was only 6500 fans very disappointing seeing we have nearly 9000 members. I am sick of the balmain or the west side sticking to there old team. I also did go for one of these old teams and i loved that club but times have changed it is ONE CLUB WEST TIGERS both former clubs highlight the name . Be part of the here and now and not the past that once was. On a lighter note braith kicked five balls into the crowd my 7 year nephew caught one and due that he got to meet any players he wanted too. He met Tim simona , brooks and woods and blair he had the best night at a WEST TIGERS game . They all signed to ball he caught and he was given a free jersey.

 

[RatedRKO]

It's obviously a horrible crowd number, but the question has to be asked. Where were all the tigers fans that attended LO last week? I doubt 10k Manly supporters showed up, hell probably not even half of that were at the game. Is CSS that hard to get to? Do people not like the venue? People say that Manly fans don't travel, is that starting to be true for us?

 

[wtfl1981]

It's obviously a horrible crowd number, but the question has to be asked. Where were all the tigers fans that attended LO last week? I doubt 10k Manly supporters showed up, hell probably not even half of that were at the game. Is CSS that hard to get to? Do people not like the venue? People say that Manly fans don't travel, is that starting to be true for us?

Valid Question.. Its kinda like WT have their own internal home and away crowds/attendees

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[GNR4LIFE]

The solution is not playing games where you can't draw a crowd. Wests Ashfield owns 50% of the club and its 40 mins drive minimum form campbelltown, Balmain own the other 50% and is 50 minutes from thier. Every other ground in sydney is closer then campbelltown (Penrith, Manly, Kograh,Cronulla - all closer then Campbelltown from Ashfield) and the reality is Tigers supporters from the inner west won't travel out thier and you definatly won't get opposition supporters travelling to campbelltown so you have to have away teams thier. ANZ offers us guarenteed money and more supporters turn up. We need to end this farce, stop harking back to a failed history and play games where it make sense for Wests Tigers. I say 7 at ANZ, 1 in Campbelltown and 4 at Leichardt which is 5 minutes from Ashfield.

And this ladies and gents is a big part of the problem. We have self confessed Inner West dinosaurs too afraid to get into their cars and do a bit of driving in order to get out and support their team. They rather just stick the boot in and whinge about people not getting out there when they themselves won't even get off their fat backside and make an effort themselves.

As the Viper stated above, where were the extra 10K that attended last week? bit far to follow their team? I find it funny hearing all the crap from people how they don't care about Balmain and Wests now and how ''we are one'', yet still divide us and turn around and blame one section of the supporter base. You haven't come very far if you don't think the whole supporter base as a whole should be blamed, no divide us instead. But ''we are one'' pffft yeah right.

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

So did we see you there GNR ? Or what was your excuse

 

[barrytiger]

people are using ticket prices as an excuse,simple solution be a ticketed member it works out to be less than 15 dollars a game,
even if you cant go to all home games like myself due to being a shift worker and working weekends.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So did we see you there GNR ? Or what was your excuse

No excuse here, i was in attendance. Should save that question for those who flat admit to refusing to go like Boonboon above.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

I just find it ridiculous him giving ultimatums to the public. If what he's been trying to do is failing, does he really think holding a gun to people's heads is going to solve the problem? It will make them even more likely to tell him to shove it if thats his ace card. Sounds to me like he's already made up his mind that they're not winning people over and this is his way of saying ''f… you'' to the South West.

Exactly. Last week it was "the area is important to us….blah, blah, blah....", this week, "one more poor performance and you are finished." Idiotic consumer management.

Regardless, if he wants to move from Campbelltown but keep his board onside, we should only play at the two home grounds that are closest to our two owners - Homebush and Allianz.

 

[gallagher]

With the NRL soon to have control of the club its inevitable that we're going to have less games at CSS and LO. Crowds like that makes the decision easier to make and easier to explain.

 

[Demonborger]

The no true fan thing is ridiculous.

There are many many passionate fans who are more than happy to commit the 2 hours to giving Wests Tigers their passion and time. The extra 2-3 hours in travelling and waiting about don't appeal to them. The venue comfort and pricing also doesn't compare for many to the comfort and pricing of watching it in their home. Then people have to consider whether they might get sick at the game due to exposure to the weather.

For many many fans the pros of atmosphere and experiences at the ground don't outweight the costs to time, money and health.

If you use CSS then the pool of people whose cost benefit test would see them at the game is much much lower than if you choose a more centralized stadium such as ANZ. Simple draw a circle around the venue based on travel times and see which circle would have the most people in it willing, i'd guess that ANZ catchment area would have more people who believe benefits of going to the game outweight the costs.

Districts aren't what they used to be either, and kids pick teams and many more factors than locality (Woods was a Manly fan!!!). To top it off fast growing south west picks up people from everywhere of which many already have teams they follow.
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I don't think the issue is Wests vs Balmain (only for a tiny few) so much as it is Inner West v Outer West, or even more to the point, centralized venues v metropolitan fringe venues.

 

[tig_prmz]

the big factor in playing at campbelltown is the future prospected growth there in the next few years near the camden area.

that and the fact that a lot of our juniors come from the mcarthur area means we HAVE to play at campbelltown. mayer knows it's not a short term fix- the mcarthur area hasn't quite embraced us yet but positively, they haven't embraced a team like panthers or bulldogs either.

this region is moving more towards soccer/football due to the WSW. for most people of this area, it's not possible to support both codes. v

think what mayer said right now is a brain fart. macarthur area is still in a work in progress- you need patience and some smarts to be able to reap in the rewards later. if we don't stick by mcarthur now- a team like penrith (gus has already stated his intentions) will try to convert them when camden region is fully developed.

 

[gallagher]

Thats true Demonburger. Lots of old 'west' fans are from pre 1987 and dont live in Campbelltown. Less than a third of our fans would come from there.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

think what mayer said right now is a brain fart. macarthur area is still in a work in progress- you need patience and some smarts to be able to reap in the rewards later. if we don't stick by mcarthur now- a team like penrith (gus has already stated his intentions) will try to convert them when camden region is fully developed.

If I was a board director, I would be hauling Mayer in for a "please explain" on Monday morning.

 

[Sabre]

I'm sure all those times we played Cowboys at Leichhardt we got good crowds.