Meyer: cambo has once last chance

[Tiger_Terrific]

For the corresponding game last year, the Cowboys match only drew an extra 700 when it was played at Leichhardt. And the Storm match drew even less than tonight. I think some on here are just a bit opportunistic in their criticism of one venue over the other.

For the corresponding game last year, the Tigers had lost seven matches straight and had just been belted by the Rabbitohs. It's not really comparable to the club's position so far this season.

I don't want us to leave Campbelltown. I just don't think it's helpful to frame this problem as one of fans or the club being selective in their criticism.

 

[Yossarian]

For the corresponding game last year, the Cowboys match only drew an extra 700 when it was played at Leichhardt. And the Storm match drew even less than tonight. I think some on here are just a bit opportunistic in their criticism of one venue over the other.

For the corresponding game last year, the Tigers had lost seven matches straight and had just been belted by the Rabbitohs. It's not really comparable to the club's position so far this season.

I don't want us to leave Campbelltown. I just don't think it's helpful to frame this problem as one of fans or the club being selective in their criticism.

Well said. I want Campbelltown to succeed as a home for us but some of the excuses are wearing a bit thin.

 

[Russell]

The NRL and WT can't logically think that they are going to get a big crowd on a Saturday night.
We had a chance of rain, and a club that is almost closer to China than Campbelltown.
All of that spells - small crowd.

Leichhardt went through this scenario last year if you remember - the 3 or 4 games were Saturday night affairs, bad weather and a few out of Sydney clubs. It also reflected low crowds and everyone wanted LO sent to oblivion as well.

The people that make these decisions need to appreciate the negative factors in scheduling games in this manner. A good crowd at LO against Manly - almost sold out - bad weather kept some away that had bought tickets. Scheduled correctly Campbelltown would get a good crowd as well.

I wanted to go last week - only tickets left were $99 including lunch???????? Want to be a fantastic lunch for around $60\. I can't afford that.

I remember the days at 2pm - you would think - hey lets go to the game. Can't do that these days.

All has a negative spin on the numbers at the game imo.

 

[Andrew]

I thought there was at least 9k tonight and will say that I didn't think there was any more that 12k last week. At least thats what would have been announced in the 80s.

So are you implying that they're fidgeting with the numbers? :astonished: What reasons could they possibly have for doing that? :wink:

an excuse to leave a ground or grounds that cost them money to play at and move to a ground where they are guaranteed money.

I'm not saying that happened but there is your reason.

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[GNR4LIFE]

Soo where was all this talk after we drew 7, 000 against the same side at LO last yr. As usual any poor turnout at LO is excused and brushed under the carpet. And while i never subscribe to where the money is coming from, its not Mayer's decision to make on whether or not we move away from the area. The side whose putting in the most money is going to move away from the area that represents their side of the JV? yeah right. Fear mongering at its finest,

 

[Balmain_Leichhardt]

I can remember when Stadium Australia our Olympic Stadium solidified its future with the $100,000 a game to play there, putting paid to any chance of continuity with regular games at Leichhardt and Campbelltown. Then there was also the Jade Stadium HOME games in New Zealand….

Just maybe the greater majority of our team's followers are sick of being treated with contempt with the piecemeal offering of only 2 or 3 games a year at our real homegrounds....

Money rules and wreaks havoc again with sport....

Go Tigers you were great tonight and i was proud as punch at Leichhardt last week at a traditional DAY game roaring with my son on the hill in the rain... Nothing better

 

[2041]

Soo where was all this talk after we drew 7, 000 against the same side at LO last yr. As usual any poor turnout at LO is excused and brushed under the carpet. And while i never subscribe to where the money is coming from, its not Mayer's decision to make on whether or not we move away from the area. The side whose putting in the most money is going to move away from the area that represents their side of the JV? yeah right. Fear mongering at its finest,

I don't think a monsoon and seven consecutive defeats is an excuse. Two of the Leichhardt games last year were poorly attended, but it's undeniable that over time and regardless of opponent the club draws more at Leichhardt.

It's also nothing to do with the merger, at least it isn't for the club CEO. Why would he be making comments against the people who pay his wages, especially in such fraught circumstances for the JV?

It's equally ludicrous to say, as some on this thread have done, that Mayer is putting this stuff on Twitter on a whim. Undoubtedly this is a view held within the whole Wests Tigers organisation: a third of the home games are played at a ground which consistently fails to draw a crowd. Whose traditional home that ground happens to be is a secondary issue.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

After last week, you can't blame the weather

Wests Cambo CEO is blaming "poor interstate opponents"… Because manly brought 10000 to leichhardt last week!

Wests cambo CEO is blaming "poor marketing" of the $10 ticket. What a pathetic argument. Concord is almost giving these tickets away and only 6000 show up.

No matter what argument you throw at them, they keep moving the goal posts and dancing around the facts; Cambo crowd has to show up!

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The Macarthur area used to draw nearly 20,000 when we were on top of the ladder in 05.Im not a magpie or from Macarthur myself but theres been a lot of talk for a while about Macarthur/magpie fans not being happy.Is there some correlation between them and these crowd figures perhaps.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Soo where was all this talk after we drew 7, 000 against the same side at LO last yr. As usual any poor turnout at LO is excused and brushed under the carpet. And while i never subscribe to where the money is coming from, its not Mayer's decision to make on whether or not we move away from the area. The side whose putting in the most money is going to move away from the area that represents their side of the JV? yeah right. Fear mongering at its finest,

I don't think a monsoon and seven consecutive defeats is an excuse. Two of the Leichhardt games last year were poorly attended, but it's undeniable that over time and regardless of opponent the club draws more at Leichhardt.

It's also nothing to do with the merger, at least it isn't for the club CEO. Why would he be making comments against the people who pay his wages, especially in such fraught circumstances for the JV?

It's equally ludicrous to say, as some on this thread have done, that Mayer is putting this stuff on Twitter on a whim. Undoubtedly this is a view held within the whole Wests Tigers organisation: a third of the home games are played at a ground which consistently fails to draw a crowd. Whose traditional home that ground happens to be is a secondary issue.

I just find it ridiculous him giving ultimatums to the public. If what he's been trying to do is failing, does he really think holding a gun to people's heads is going to solve the problem? It will make them even more likely to tell him to shove it if thats his ace card. Sounds to me like he's already made up his mind that they're not winning people over and this is his way of saying ''f… you'' to the South West.

As for your first paragraph. maybe cos its 2am, and i'm half drunk but i can't tell if you're being facetious or not. If you are, then thats pretty much the standard response when anyone brings up a bad crowd figure at LO. I wonder what the excuse was last round of 2012 when we played the Storm and were still a shot to get in the 8 and only attracted 8 or 9K. I'm sure there'll be one, there always is. Also, I think you'll find throughout the last 15 yrs, crowd averages for both grounds have never been too far apart, so it might not be as undeniable as you think. I know that up until about 06, Ctown had a higher attendance average consistently.

 

[westy81]

It shouldn't matter who Wests tigers play at Campbelltown if your a Wests tigers fan you should want to go down to campbelltown stadium to support and watch YOUR team, I have gone to every Campbelltown game for AT LEAST the past 8 years I was very disappointed at the crowd figure tonight but it did seem more than the 6500 that they announced, if campbelltown games go away or get reduced I will be very disappointed as I can go to Campbelltown games and not be totally tired the next day for work ( as I work every weekend, early shift) so to go to ANZ or Allianz it is to long a drive to and from those matches for me and my father and brother to get up early to go to work the next day, I also spoke to all fellow WT fans at work to see if they were coming and if they weren't I tried to convince them to come, so please Campbelltown get out and support the WT or we might lose the Ctown games, and don't cry if we do lose them if you never go to the games or hardly go to the games, you only have yourself to blame if you don't support your team by seeing them live which is much better in my opinion

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[Tony33]

Apparently a few of the ticket machines at the gates werent working.. Perhaps that explains a few people stating the crowd looked much bigger then officially stated ? Either way im very very disappointed at how the poor crowd has taken away from a great win at home.. You know this whole thing is a serious issue when it dominates threads after a great win.. Hopefully you westys and even those from the inner west can come out for the remainder of the year and make a point ! We are the wests tigers and CSS should be apart of it.. Stop making excuses and give reasons to stay. The Brisbane game is the week to make a point there is dead set no excuses so please make it count ! Ill be driving 90 minutes south west to help !

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Before heading off into never never land, thought i might post what i just came across.

Now, unless i'm reading this wrong, what i found was the average attendance figures for both grounds since 2000.

LO 13, 578
C-town 12, 861

Unless my mind deceives me the difference isn't even 1000 people. So really, whats the big deal?

Here's the link http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/wests_tigers.html#ven

 

[larrycorowa]

issue is that despite a huge promotion and a rising team, less than 7k attended tonights match, which is 3k less than breakeven. If CEO isn't scratching his head at this loss…he is not doing his job.

 

[Tigerdave]

Before heading off into never never land, thought i might post what i just came across.

Now, unless i'm reading this wrong, what i found was the average attendance figures for both grounds since 2000.

LO 13, 578
C-town 12, 861

Unless my mind deceives me the difference isn't even 1000 people. So really, whats the big deal?

Here's the link http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/wests_tigers.html#ven

The big deal is that we had 16000 in the rain last week at one traditional ground, on the back of a hefty loss I might add, this week after a win against Manly, a rather pathetic crowd turns up.

 

[happy_tiger]

It is very disappointing that after a performance where we beat another league heavyweight with two important members of our spine missing and our forward pack rolling a bigger named forward pack that we are focussing on this crap

Yes the crowd was disappointing , some things conspired against them , but as I said last week when are we going to have a match at a traditional home which isn't weather affected

We've been unlucky in that sense

If we don't draw against the Broncos lets look at the issues then , I feel when we focus on this it is downgrading our side and their amazing run so far

 

[glebe_tiger]

i see everyone is posting their disappointment and anger somewhat, but as fans whats the solution? cutting games at our suburban grounds? giving more tickets away? are we underestimating the affect of other codes rising from mediocrity in the area?

i think its too easy to blame weather and oppostion team being played especially with the start we've had this year.

 

[boonboon]

The solution is not playing games where you can't draw a crowd. Wests Ashfield owns 50% of the club and its 40 mins drive minimum form campbelltown, Balmain own the other 50% and is 50 minutes from thier. Every other ground in sydney is closer then campbelltown (Penrith, Manly, Kograh,Cronulla - all closer then Campbelltown from Ashfield) and the reality is Tigers supporters from the inner west won't travel out thier and you definatly won't get opposition supporters travelling to campbelltown so you have to have away teams thier. ANZ offers us guarenteed money and more supporters turn up. We need to end this farce, stop harking back to a failed history and play games where it make sense for Wests Tigers. I say 7 at ANZ, 1 in Campbelltown and 4 at Leichardt which is 5 minutes from Ashfield.

 

[innsaneink]

While I don't think the fact we played a Sydney team at Leichhardt last week accounts for an extra 10k crowd, I do think it's logical to play Sydney teams at LO/CSS as we are more likely to get bigger crowds for two Sydney teams. LO and CSS are so reliant on crowd numbers to make dollars, any chance of getting extra people through the gates should be taken. We get PAID to play at ANZ. We should play the out of towners there where crowd figures don't matter.

Not trying to defend the number tonight. I thought it was a disgraceful effort and I truly feel sorry for Mayer and the club for doing everything possible to get a big number there tonight.

Alex…don't you think ANZ want something in return for paying US to play there?

They do.

They choose the opppnents. ..and they choose who will make their ground look best...High crowd drawing Syd teams

 

[wtfl1981]

WT pay $0 to play at LO
WT get paid to play at ANZ
And get charged $25000 to play at CSS

Thats a driving factor.

Are you saying people don't turn up because Wests Tigers get charged $25K to play there?

I am saying thats a driving factor (reason/excuse) for Mayer to decide WT not play at Campbelltown.

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[tottie]

My opinion is that magpie fans hate the fact that we are called tigers and not magpies and that the media leaves the wests out of their description, therefore giving them no identity and these same supporters blame the weather, scheduling, opposition etc for not attending games. Mayer is trying to scare the fans into action and this may backfire. Whatever eventuates we are the Wests tigers, have been for 15 yrs and that isnt going to change and for a Balmain tigers "fossil" its something i have to accept as well.

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