Ray Cashmere - another prop option

@Alf Duguid said:
What's with the Cashy hate? People bag out Groat and say we need experience but when we bring in experience people whine. Get a grip people and support the great man
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Experience? Please! How many NRL games has he played?
 
The guy is on match payments, let him play i'm happy to see what he could bring to a young forward pack. Its not like he's taking up half our salary cap.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Alf Duguid said:
What's with the Cashy hate? People bag out Groat and say we need experience but when we bring in experience people whine. Get a grip people and support the great man
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Experience? Please! How many NRL games has he played?

Nearly 60

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City origin 2008
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@Alf Duguid said:
What's with the Cashy hate? People bag out Groat and say we need experience but when we bring in experience people whine. Get a grip people and support the great man
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Experience? Please! How many NRL games has he played?

58 in the NRL.

72 for Salford.

Hundreds of games in reggies.

Definitely more experienced than Woods and Groat and arguably more experienced than Galloway even, if you consider time on the park experience.

I think Cashy will provide something. As long as he's willing to cart the ball up and not shirk contact (and please, as if he would) he will offer something in a position we lack. He's a big, rawbone dude and rarely gets dominated. Galloway/Woods/Bell/Cashmere is handy prop rotation imo. BMM to stay on the bench as an impact forward and Groat/Moors as depth. Works for me. Groat will take a lot of first grade experience back to the lower grades where he will dominate and hopefully come back better for it next time the opportunity arises (next week, when Galloway breaks his pinky finger). If Groat, Moors or any other props really stand up in the lower grades and start truly dominating it (which a true first grader really would do and Moors, while he has been a level above, doesn't truly dominate like a first grader does in NSW Cup) then Cashmere shouldn't be a block to them rising up to first grade, unless HE fires right up.

He'll be motivated for sure. The more I think about it, the more I'm keen. He ain't that old either. He's three years younger than Civoniceva and hasn't played at the top level his entire career so his body should be in better knick than most props at age 32\. Same age as Fuifui Moimoi with roughly the same amount of top grade matches under his belt as well.
 
@Skando&Hodgo said:
I agree Alex, Moors should look for another club because clearly this signing tells us that Sheens doesn't rate him and will not be using him again.
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Moors is not 100%..
 
The cash is back good luck mate..I,m one that doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth ,we need a prop and we have one …don't pay out on the Cash payout on the coach who has been caught once again with his pants down going into this season underdown with props! Looking forward to seeing Ray tear it up.
 
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
I realise you said in his time at the Tigers, but maybe it's been the quality of the player as a person moreso than Sheens. I mean he certainly didn't have any trouble at the Raiders with Meninga, Daley or Johnny Ferguson.

All these players were already established at the Raiders and had experienced the Wayne Bennett/Don Furner influence that took them to the 1987 Grand Final, Mal and John were very experienced players by this stage while Laurie Daley had talent oozing out his pores, Daley in fact was a Premiership winner in the Group 9 comp with Junee at the age of 16 such was his talent prior to joining the Raiders, even so he was on the bench as a teenager in 1987.
No argument about any of that.It's not what i was disputing. You insuated Tim Sheens has a problem coaching indigenous players, i disagree due to the fact the players named won multiple premierships under his coaching. All of them indigenous.
 
When Ray came back from the UK he approached the Tigers about getting a run but they said NO. Now they want him.

Management plays a bit like the way the Tigers play. They make simple things difficult. He could have been here from the pre season.
 
Would have preferred Mason… But I guess WT have other plans.

As long as he runs hard and straight and doesn't fall off tackles, he'll be an astute buy.
 
I can't see what we get from his signing . He lacks speed so he won't make a dint in the advantage line and he struggles moving laterally

Moors in my opinion is a better option and Sheens won't play him yet he will play Cashmere

I'm slightly confused
 
Cashy is a better option than Groat at this stage ,so it cant be to bad an option .
Junior Moors must be doing something wrong off the paddock,although to me he is just a first grader who still struggles in defence for me .
 
@1/4 chicken said:
Cashy is a better option than Groat at this stage ,so it cant be to bad an option .
Junior Moors must be doing something wrong off the paddock,although to me he is just a first grader who still struggles in defence for me .

Spot on, I'm no fan of the cash and think even if he plays for match payments it's way too much for a bloke who have had it. Much better option than Groat, but Mase would've been better than both combined.
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He started training with them already. That's as good as a release in my books.
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@T-REXX said:
@Skando&Hodgo said:
I agree Alex, Moors should look for another club because clearly this signing tells us that Sheens doesn't rate him and will not be using him again.
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Moors is not 100%..

Not 100% what? Physically or mentally?
 

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