Richards a liability

[fergiefurr]

The thing is, with Pat, we have an advantage over every other side in the comp; kickoffs. His detractors try to play down how important that is, but its a hell of an advantage over everyone else when you have a 50/50 shot of regaining the kick off every time.

I don't think anyone is downplaying how massive his kicks are. I believe the stat of us regaining possession is around 10%, not 50 like you say. In saying that 10% is still amazing considering other teams might get 1 a season.

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[InBenjiWeTrust]

One thing is for sure, if Tedesco goes down again, i'm sure JT won't make the same mistake Potter did by shifting him to fb like he did against the Warriors last yr. Now, he did show in that game that he was too slow for that position.

But from a wingers perspective, pace isn't everything. Look guys like Covell, El Masri, even Darryl Halligan. Its better to be slow and have all other facets of the game covered than to be quick and be utterly hopeless everywhere else.

Hear, hear

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The thing is, with Pat, we have an advantage over every other side in the comp; kickoffs. His detractors try to play down how important that is, but its a hell of an advantage over everyone else when you have a 50/50 shot of regaining the kick off every time.

I don't think anyone is downplaying how massive his kicks are. I believe the stat of us regaining possession is around 10%, not 50 like you say. In saying that 10% is still amazing considering other teams might get 1 a season.

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I didn't say that the stat is 50%, i said when we're kicking off you feel like there's a 50/50 chance of use regaining the ball.

 

[mctiger]

The thing is, with Pat, we have an advantage over every other side in the comp; kickoffs. His detractors try to play down how important that is, but its a hell of an advantage over everyone else when you have a 50/50 shot of regaining the kick off every time.

Hopefully with an improved defence, we will be kicking off a hell of a lot less!

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[Masterton]

Please!!!!

He deserves a few rounds of real football to prove his worth. I remember he was being talked up for SOO last year.

Given his age I doubt Pat would be fully wound up yet.

People on here we're talking him up, no one else was

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/pat-richards-waiting-in-the-wings-for-blues-20140415-zqv52.html

 

[TIGERS]

Wests Tigers legend
His kick-offs and dropouts can change a game.
True Professional.
Strong as a bull.
Fast enough for his job.

 

[tiger333]

Pat's not dead yet. Not by a long shot.
He still has the ability to win close games in 2015.
The guy is a freak.
First pick in my team.
Lets hope 2015 is injury-free (which was the only problem with him last year I could see).
He changed the shape of the NRL with his kick off techniques in 2014.
The guy is a living legend.
If only he'd stayed a Tiger instead of 'Man of Steeling' it overseas.
And yes he can score tries too.

 

[Geo]

Pat's not dead yet. Not by a long shot.
He still has the ability to win close games in 2015.
The guy is a freak.
First pick in my team.
Lets hope 2015 is injury-free (which was the only problem with him last year I could see).
He changed the shape of the NRL with his kick off techniques in 2014.
The guy is a living legend.
If only he'd stayed a Tiger instead of 'Man of Steeling' it overseas.
And yes he can score tries too.

Welcome to the Forum Mrs Richards….

 

[LaT]

Richard is not a liability, he was winning us games last year.

His selection is a complete non issue IMO.

 

[innsaneink]

I really think pats spot in the team needs to be in question. There's no doubt that his goal kicking and place kicks are an absolute weapon for us, however is that enough? For a guy his size he is fairly soft. He doesn't offer good dummy half runs/kick returns, his finishing is very poor (I'm sick of him kicking it infield instead if taking on a guy one on one) and he drops a lot more ball then he should. His defence is always questionable, particularly his decision making.

If we were a top 4 side we could carry him for his kicking, however a team like ours already has weak links, we can't afford another glaring one on the wing.

In an encouraging weekend of 9s, Pat was very disappointing yesterday. I know it's only the 9s but naquimas defensive reads were top class and he would hit and stick everytime. Hoeter should also come into consideration as he is good from dummy half and great under the high ball.

I have no doubt that Richards will start the year in first grade but if this form continues (and another guy is performing in the lower grades) I really hope Taylor has the balls to drop him.

Dunno about him being a liability…we were chock full of those though last year

His position in the team shouldnt be under question....but everyones position in the team should be based on form

Pat is Pat like Galloway is galloway...I think these two are often compared against the best of their rival in tehor positions...but they do their jobs for us their way imo

 

[Newtown]

Funny how fans forget. Only as long ago as last season Richards was the main instigators in Wests Tigers defeating Parramatta at ANZ. Included amongst his point scoring was a superb field goal and a 70 metre try.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Funny how fans forget. Only as long ago as last season Richards was the main instigators in Wests Tigers defeating Parramatta at ANZ. Included amongst his point scoring was a superb field goal and a 70 metre try.

This is the same supporter base that belittle Chris Lawrence, forgetting he's the way he is due to a debilitating injury, forgetting how good he was and the kind of player he would be if it wasn't for said injury. Also the same group that consider Lote one of our worst ever signings, forgetting his form in 2010\. The memories some people have would make a Goldfish look like it has the memory of an Elephant in comparison

 

[stevetiger]

I disagree completely with the comments regarding Richards last season. I think it was obvious that all he offered was his kicking game last season.

I think Richards negatives are a critical area of the team that we need to get right. His position has to come under consideration and there are better options right now. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I disagree completely with the comments regarding Richards last season. I think it was obvious that all he offered was his kicking game last season.

I think Richards negatives are a critical area of the team that we need to get right. His position has to come under consideration and there are better options right now. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

Can you remember any instances where he cost us?

 

[stevetiger]

I disagree completely with the comments regarding Richards last season. I think it was obvious that all he offered was his kicking game last season.

I think Richards negatives are a critical area of the team that we need to get right. His position has to come under consideration and there are better options right now. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

Can you remember any instances where he cost us?

How many times did we lack pace out wide ? He mightn't directly cost us by stuffing up but our lack of pace was a key part of us having a dud season. When Tedesco went down we had no real options out wide. That killed us.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I disagree completely with the comments regarding Richards last season. I think it was obvious that all he offered was his kicking game last season.

I think Richards negatives are a critical area of the team that we need to get right. His position has to come under consideration and there are better options right now. I hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

Can you remember any instances where he cost us?

How many times did we lack pace out wide ? He mightn't directly cost us by stuffing up but our lack of pace was a key part of us having a dud season. When Tedesco went down we had no real options out wide. That killed us.

As i said earlier, better to have a lack of pace, but still have other facets of the game covered, then be quick and be useless. Koroibete is a good example, blistering speed, but there's not much substance after that. If not having speed is Richards only flaw, then he's doing alright.

 

[Swordy]

Whatever Richards might lack in pace, he easily makes up for in experience, a cool head, positional play, and the list goes in. He is far from a liability.

 

[stevetiger]

I can see your point but in my opinion Koro was significantly a better option than Richards and that was obvious when we played the Storm.

Maybe you can carry an old slow winger with a great kicking game if you have a firing backline. We haven't had that. Maybe this year will be different and we can afford to carry Richards. If I was the coach I wouldn't be risking my career on Richards though.

 

[Snapper]

The Wests Tigers in 2015 are lacking in experience.
As long as he stays fit he will be a asset.

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[grrrrrrrrrr]

If we don't score tries we won't need a goal kicker.

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