Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....
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hammertime
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@ricksen said:
Given this is from the Australian (where Go's husband works), it might have far more substance.
This would be a great outcome TBH! For both parties…
1) Allows the club to save some face, without necessarily backing away from their objective
2) Gives Robbie a good out after basically being unwanted at decent $ by any other clubs. He'll also helps him with a future income stream (as he isn't great with media)
3) Will help us free up cap in 2017 to retain the spine. Plus their 'friend' farah will be back at the club after a few years.
4) Gives Ballin and Cherry the opportunity to form a good partnership in 2017.
5) Gives Taylor 1 year to show what he can do without Robbie's disruptive behavior.
Perfect. Pascoe is a good operator. Lets hope he can get this over the line.
innsaneink
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@Eddie said:
You're probably right there… He was good then.
innsaneink
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@Eddie said:
Hahaha…. Probably exactly... That's a good one.
Buckets picked up Gaz for us... Nothing to do with Farah.... But if Farah was wanting better for the club... Even probably exactly... Much like everyone else here... Then I guess I sit on that side of that fence... I don't see the irony.
innsaneink
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@hammertime said:
I pretty much predicted this last night bar the England angle
innsaneink
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@Eddie said:
Oh ok then… If you're going to start twisting things like you have then I'll just leave you with the last word
But if all you can come up with is something Farah and I and almost everyone else PROBABLY agrees on... Then hooray for you
foreveratiger
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@hammertime said:
It doesn't paint well for Jason Taylor though , sounds like it's only a matter of time for him…...i mean if Farah agrees to this sort of a deal ( Ambassador role ) , he would be getting assurances that Taylor won't be at the helm for him to except this ?
I seriously think Ivan Cleary will be our Coach sometime next year...a gut feeling.
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Doesn't matter which side of the fence you sit on this issue , the bickering will continue .
These are the sort of things that will happen next year , i'll have a Wager with anyone that is interested :mrgreen:
(a) If Farah achieves a release with the Club and does leave ? IF we are struggling for wins and languishing down the bottom of the table somewhere ? Taylor will be blamed for everything that has happened from : the Farah saga , Taupau wanting out , players not wanting to play under him .
(b) If Farah stays and we are loosing ? It's all Farah's fault......his brought disharmony to the group of players , made the players turn against Taylor , accusing of not putting effort in to oust Taylor , having Man of the Match performances for the Blues but not interested at Club level.
(c) If Farah stays and the Board think that Taylor has caused to much friction out of all this and gets the sack ? It will be Farah's fault , he has a way of sacking Coaches , The Boys Club continues , what Farah says goes , Farah for Captain/Coach.
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The best outcome for the Club moving forward IMO ? Get rid of both of them , they have both played there part in bringing our Club to disrepute by making it a Personal battle and divided the fans amongst each other .
This is the only way the Club and the fans will come together as everyone will except what has happened and there will be no blaming game from anyone , if not (a), (b) or (C) will occur next year .
Yeah financially it will sting the Club but we are in damage control no matter which way you look at it .
New Coach comes in and says right anyone else wants a release from there Contracts ? speak now and piss of now if you wish to do so . ( wish this could be said ) our World is Politically incorrect :brick:
I agree as others have said No player is bigger than the Club and when the water subsides we will all be supporting this Club that i Love so dearly......i know i will , regardless if Jason Taylor is the Coach and i don't think his the right Man to lead us in the right direction. ( just my Opinion )
I have faith that somehow things will all fall into place eventually somehow, if we don't get our act together we are doomed and won't have a Club to support.
foreveratiger
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@ricksen said:
UMMM i realize this , No article just me thinking that the Club doesn't see Jason Taylor as a Coach that would go past his current Contract and plan to have him as a possible long term Coach .
You seriously think Farah will come back in 2018 or 2019 as an Ambassador if Taylor gets a Contract extension past 2017 ? The bloke that has caused all the friction to move him on ?
Farah will be no where near the place as long as Taylor is here .
hammertime
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@ricksen said:
For him to be not here in 2016 would require
1) A Legal suit. One which Robbie can't entertain if he truly loves the club like he says he does. It's possible though as I think he loves himself more…
2) Another Sydney club stumps up a decent offer. That would have been done 4 months ago when this all started. I believe the current situation is just Robbie's last ditch effort to try to get rid of taylor, he doesn't really want to go.
He really would be shooting himself in the foot if he turns down Pascoes offer (if true). It's an income stream beyond his playing years and the chance to stay at the club he loves. He won't get that if he goes to another club, nor will that club offer him the same.
hammertime
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@foreveratiger said:
I don't think so at all. Robbie has a track record of bringing coaches down, that's why the Tigers have stuck with JT this time. It's a big cultural problem if you have players who have lost form, to continually blame it on the coach rather than look at improving themselves. It's probably why Robbie's personality has gotten like this, he's just gotten away with it too many times before.
The ambassador role won't have him interacting with Taylor. It's basically what Skando and Fults do now with Charity work.
If they stick for 1 year, they'll keep that 'culture' bloke around that they've just hired and demote Robbie to State Cup if he steps out of line or undermines the coach again.
JT will get what he wants, just a year later. Which is sooner than it was looking last week (as Robbie was expecting to stay for 2 years)
@foreveratiger said:
Well for starters I don't think Farah will come back as an ambassador regardless, as he's a smart guy and will have other sources of income to fall back on. But it won't have anything to do with the coach, as the role would literally have nothing to do with whoever was in charge. You think guys like Roach and whoever have much to do with JT right now?
Secondly, I think JT's role in this whole thing is overstated. Sure he supports the move, but I suspect Phil Moss is a large part of it, given that he's the one in charge of getting the cap back in order and re-shaping the squad. He's got previous in such moves, given his past at Penrith.
Tigerdave
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@hammertime said:
It appears to be the best solution and pretty sure that a "staying at the Tigers in 2016 and who knows in 2017" was something Robbie's camp had mentioned. Out of all the talk really, they are only talking about next year.
I reckon he'd easily get 2 years out of an English club.
foreveratiger
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Fair enough if an Ambassador role has zero interaction with the Coach ? i suppose it can work out .
Who knows what Farah's mind thought is ? he has a Uni degree , so i doubt he would be to worried about what forms of Employment he will get .
With the status that he has had in the game i'm sure there will be some sort of opportunity to still be involved in the game in some Capacity , maybe as Taylor's Coaching Assistant :mrgreen:
Who knows what Farah's mind thought is ? he has a Uni degree , so i doubt he would be to worried about what forms of Employment he will get .
With the status that he has had in the game i'm sure there will be some sort of opportunity to still be involved in the game in some Capacity , maybe as Taylor's Coaching Assistant :mrgreen:
hammertime
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@foreveratiger said:
It's a good point mate. The business degree will help. He may even be offered something more substantial in the administration that an ambassador.
Leichhatiger isn't around anymore so he may not be keen to jump back into another entrepreneurial venture.
bigsiro
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Either way the press is going to be brutal. If he stays the Tigers will be painted as backflippers; if he goes the Tigers will be disloyal.
I've honestly got to the point where I don't care if he stays or if he goes, I just want this resolved immediately and for us to start making headlines for the right reasons.
I've honestly got to the point where I don't care if he stays or if he goes, I just want this resolved immediately and for us to start making headlines for the right reasons.
Three hookers and Taylor - cant see how it can work! What a debacle. The club cant afford to keep him - too much damage done, and cant pay out enough to get rid of him. They created this mess to start with, and by signing Ballin they may as well have poured petrol on it and set it alight.
By some miracle if they have a good start to the year with Farah in the team( Ballin wont be ready by what is currently reported) just maybe the year wont be a complete disaster - and Ballin may just have to wear it. A bad start and take your pick who wears the most level of blame but the saga will continue till one or both of them are gone.
Not sure how much more the fans and the rest of players are prepared to take. A complete stuff up - If they wanted Farah out so badly they should have been sure that they were prepared to part with the funds - worst case scenario - and or ensured that he was given the time to find another club instead of announcing it in late July/August. Failed in both.
Pascoe has got mediators working with them suggesting that he seems to think that a resolution between the two is the best outcome for the club - now that it is obvious that other clubs dont have enough in their cap space for Wests Tigers to benefit from releasing him.
Winning games is our only hope of any level of stability - unless Robbie is in different colours - as it seems Taylor will be given his chance.
By some miracle if they have a good start to the year with Farah in the team( Ballin wont be ready by what is currently reported) just maybe the year wont be a complete disaster - and Ballin may just have to wear it. A bad start and take your pick who wears the most level of blame but the saga will continue till one or both of them are gone.
Not sure how much more the fans and the rest of players are prepared to take. A complete stuff up - If they wanted Farah out so badly they should have been sure that they were prepared to part with the funds - worst case scenario - and or ensured that he was given the time to find another club instead of announcing it in late July/August. Failed in both.
Pascoe has got mediators working with them suggesting that he seems to think that a resolution between the two is the best outcome for the club - now that it is obvious that other clubs dont have enough in their cap space for Wests Tigers to benefit from releasing him.
Winning games is our only hope of any level of stability - unless Robbie is in different colours - as it seems Taylor will be given his chance.
