Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Telltails]

Finally, whatever goodwill Farah was hoping to eke out of this has failed dismally. You look at the other fan forums, no one wants him save a few desperate Newcastle and Saints fans and of course his Tiger fanboys.

All this has done is make Wests look utterly incompetent and Farah look like poison.

Didnt see any fans from any club wanting to go after Ballin either - we didnt even want him that was until of course Taylor signed him to get rid of Farah. Then he suddenly developed a new group of fans. Maybe the same will happen for Farah once signed elsewhere. Fans can be fickle.

 

[ricksen]

Here you all again blaming the victim. Robbie did not start the blue, he was till active on the field taking into consideration his age and injuries. He wanted to get 250 games up. They could not have given him a two year contract as Potter wanted due of backending would have been too severe.

They have know for yonks that he is a fiery character esp out on the field battling for WT side. So what did they expect.

I read here somewhere how one of the great coaches (Melbourne team?) would base the game plan around the top three players' games. Somehow JT could not make this all happen.

And as GCT said there was no Plan B with a cashed up reserve to pay him out. The club/team now needs Farah to glue them together again and win games - the only way of the shenanigans. How ironic.

There is no 'blue' - he was given freedom to look for other offers, as probably 25% of the NRL is every year, and decided to make a big deal out of it. That's fine and he's absolutely entitled to fight for his spot - Chris Lawrence has done the same thing.
It's the PR campaign he's waged against the club that irks me and many others.

Your point about Bellamy is completely irrelevant given said three players are Smith, Cronk and Slater - i.e. the axis of both the Qld and Australian teams.

I don't know what you're referring to in the last paragraph. Cash reserves? It's salary cap money that is the issue. Pascoe is simply saying that he isn't going to let Farah go unless the settlement between WT and his prospective new club is a good outcome for WT, which is absolutely the stance we (as fans) need him to take.

 

[rialto]

If there are any clubs out there wanting Farah it's only because they think they can get him for a pittance. Bet that's all the Roosters are prepared to pay. I predict, away from this club, where he can no longer rule the 'Roost' he would do well and be worth far more than what clubs are prepared to pay.

 

[hammertime]

Yeah Robbie dragged them there against their will because they are incapable of forming an opinion for themselves about anything. In hindsight probably shouldnt have promoted Farah as a club legend and mentor to them since they began in our system all those years ago. Now we dont want Farah anymore because he is actually a bad influence, might be hard to retrain their thinking, considering they are incapable of thinking for themselves.

ha. Has nothing to do with their decision making. So, you think it played out like this - Girolamo thought it's been a while since I've caught up with Mitch and Luke, maybe I'll set up a meeting and invite Robbie along too.

OR maybe… Girolamo and Robbie set up a meeting to discuss the contract and then Robbie thought, this is a great situation to extend the invite to Luke and Mitch.

Of course Mitch and Luke can make decisions themselves. But that isn't a move from a good mentor.

That's a man who shouldn't be a leader. It's a man with an axe to grind who thinks that he is above accountability. It's a man who after trying to bring down the 3rd coach in nearly as many years, seemingly wants to drag the club he supposedly loves down.

He is the only common factor in the clubs failure over the past 10 years. we've had 3 coaches, numerous CEO's, numerous board members held to account. This drama is finally showing where the problem has been.

He and Ayoub brought this out into the public. It could have been handled discretely like Lawrence was. Robbie is directly to blame. He isn't a victim.

 

[tiga4eva]

Hate to admit but I think you've nailed it 100%.

 

[eyewonder]

This is like the azaria chamberlain story- did she ,didnt she ?

or harold holt taken by a chinese sub!

its similar to james hird and the essendon saga which went on forever.

its the story that keeps giving.

will he or wont he stay- its rivetting stuff.

we can only hope for peace in our lifetime at wests tigers.

Let us pray.

 

[Tigermama]

Best wishes to Robbie and I will always remember you as a player that wore his heart on his sleeve and never took a backward step on the field representing the Wests Tigers. Brave and courageous are two words I associate with you.

How the club resolves his contract is up to them. I just hope it does not end up in litigation and both parties separate amicably.

Finally, a post with some class!

 

[Geo]

Yeah Robbie dragged them there against their will because they are incapable of forming an opinion for themselves about anything. In hindsight probably shouldnt have promoted Farah as a club legend and mentor to them since they began in our system all those years ago. Now we dont want Farah anymore because he is actually a bad influence, might be hard to retrain their thinking, considering they are incapable of thinking for themselves.

ha. Has nothing to do with their decision making. So, you think it played out like this - Girolamo thought it's been a while since I've caught up with Mitch and Luke, maybe I'll set up a meeting and invite Robbie along too.

OR maybe… Girolamo and Robbie set up a meeting to discuss the contract and then Robbie thought, this is a great situation to extend the invite to Luke and Mitch.

Of course Mitch and Luke can make decisions themselves. But that isn't a move from a good mentor.

That's a man who shouldn't be a leader. It's a man with an axe to grind who thinks that he is above accountability. It's a man who after trying to bring down the 3rd coach in nearly as many years, seemingly wants to drag the club he supposedly loves down.

He is the only common factor in the clubs failure over the past 10 years. we've had 3 coaches, numerous CEO's, numerous board members held to account. This drama is finally showing where the problem has been.

He and Ayoub brought this out into the public. It could have been handled discretely like Lawrence was. Robbie is directly to blame. He isn't a victim.

Problem with all of that though…Brooks and Moses were at the Pub with their Holy Cross School mates having a drink ....

Farah and Di Girolamo clandestine meeting just happened to be at the same venue....Media gets wind somehow (hmm I wonder)...and there it is...intrigue

Moral ...don't believe everything you read in the papers...

 

[Masterton]

More from the Australian:
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Yesterday’s meeting with Pascoe, Farah and his manager Sam Ayoub was set up to thrash out those details.

It’s understood some progress was made but more negotiation is needed.

“All contractual discussions with Robbie and his management and the club will be kept confidential out of respect for all parties,” Pascoe said after yesterday’s meeting.

While weekend reports of a new four-year deal being put on the table are off the mark so are reports that the Roosters had made an offer.

Roosters co-captain and No 9 Jake Friend approached the club’s hierarchy seeking an explanation follwing the story.

The Australian understands no offer has been made by the Roosters for Farah and Friend remains their No 1 priority.

The Roosters have also just signed former Warriors hooker and two-time Scotland World Cup representative, Ian Henderson. Henderson was a Roosters junior who spent six years with the club before stints with Bradford, the Warriors, and most recently five years with Catalans.

The No 9 succession plan at the Roosters is already in place with Joey Lussick and NSW Under-20s hooker Grant Garvey.

 

[gallagher]

Strange the chooks havnt denied the reports yet.

 

[Telltails]

Yeah Robbie dragged them there against their will because they are incapable of forming an opinion for themselves about anything. In hindsight probably shouldnt have promoted Farah as a club legend and mentor to them since they began in our system all those years ago. Now we dont want Farah anymore because he is actually a bad influence, might be hard to retrain their thinking, considering they are incapable of thinking for themselves.

ha. Has nothing to do with their decision making. So, you think it played out like this - Girolamo thought it's been a while since I've caught up with Mitch and Luke, maybe I'll set up a meeting and invite Robbie along too.

OR maybe… Girolamo and Robbie set up a meeting to discuss the contract and then Robbie thought, this is a great situation to extend the invite to Luke and Mitch.

Of course Mitch and Luke can make decisions themselves. But that isn't a move from a good mentor.

That's a man who shouldn't be a leader. It's a man with an axe to grind who thinks that he is above accountability. It's a man who after trying to bring down the 3rd coach in nearly as many years, seemingly wants to drag the club he supposedly loves down.

He is the only common factor in the clubs failure over the past 10 years. we've had 3 coaches, numerous CEO's, numerous board members held to account. This drama is finally showing where the problem has been.

He and Ayoub brought this out into the public. It could have been handled discretely like Lawrence was. Robbie is directly to blame. He isn't a victim.

Hammertime unless you know Farah personally I would hazarrd a guess that your view of him is from the outside looking in from what you have read or heard like most of us. Deduction - bad mentor. Fair enough - you are clearly not alone.
The point I was making is that for Brooks and Moses, they know him on a personal level so anything written about him positive or negative is irrelevent. In the footy season they would see each other almost every day, they recently holidayed together. If they are meeting with Farah it would be because they want to not because they were dragged. There is a lot going on that effects them and you might not like that they met - but it would be unrealistic to think that they dont feel some allegiance to Farah - up until this year he was the face of our club. Thats all they have ever known
Farah has backed himself into a position some of which maybe his own fault, some not. Everyone wants to know what is happening Brooks and Moses have family around them that in the long run will be far more influential than Farah - and I am sure any decision they make will be in their own best interests what ever they think that is at the time irrespective of what Farah does.

 

[Russell]

GNR4LIFE
Telltails has a point, I've had numerous people text, email, call me from the wests tigers about my re-newing my tickets, people are not happy mate, i'm sure the club has done their numbers and realised it, "crap, we have a problem".
i'm an accountant and i have a law degree, i do compliance reports on behalf of my clients and i can tell you this turn around today by the tigers is financially motivated. they've realised that letting Robbie go is simply not not applicable in these circumstances.

Yep spot on icon

I have 5 mates in Sydney who won't be renewing 3 of them a Family of 4\. One of them told me he emailed them 2 Months ago don't even bother calling Them to renew and they still did and Emailed them that he was a valued Member, talk about desperate.
They didn't think of the repercussions of all this and obviously Management didn't get the message at the support for Farah at the Campbelltown game vs the Warriors.

Glad there out really. We are better off without them.

 

[Milky]

GNR4LIFE
Telltails has a point, I've had numerous people text, email, call me from the wests tigers about my re-newing my tickets, people are not happy mate, i'm sure the club has done their numbers and realised it, "crap, we have a problem".
i'm an accountant and i have a law degree, i do compliance reports on behalf of my clients and i can tell you this turn around today by the tigers is financially motivated. they've realised that letting Robbie go is simply not not applicable in these circumstances.

Yep spot on icon

I have 5 mates in Sydney who won't be renewing 3 of them a Family of 4\. One of them told me he emailed them 2 Months ago don't even bother calling Them to renew and they still did and Emailed them that he was a valued Member, talk about desperate.
They didn't think of the repercussions of all this and obviously Management didn't get the message at the support for Farah at the Campbelltown game vs the Warriors.

Glad there out really. We are better off without them.

We honestly aren't :laughing:

 

[Russell]

Well whom on this board is captain of the Taylor Team and will concede defeat?

Mate! what are you smokin" up there.

Do you really know what is going on or do you just post a random sentence from time to time - sure seems like it.

 

[cktiger]

GNR4LIFE
Telltails has a point, I've had numerous people text, email, call me from the wests tigers about my re-newing my tickets, people are not happy mate, i'm sure the club has done their numbers and realised it, "crap, we have a problem".
i'm an accountant and i have a law degree, i do compliance reports on behalf of my clients and i can tell you this turn around today by the tigers is financially motivated. they've realised that letting Robbie go is simply not not applicable in these circumstances.

Yep spot on icon

I have 5 mates in Sydney who won't be renewing 3 of them a Family of 4\. One of them told me he emailed them 2 Months ago don't even bother calling Them to renew and they still did and Emailed them that he was a valued Member, talk about desperate.
They didn't think of the repercussions of all this and obviously Management didn't get the message at the support for Farah at the Campbelltown game vs the Warriors.

Glad there out really. **We are better off without them**.

Who is 'we', and how are we better off without them?
He never said they weren't still going to support the tigers - he said they wont be renewing memberships.
That means they won't be paying any money - and I think that was the point.
Unless you mean 'we' as being yourself and the other 'true supporters'. :unamused:

 

[Knuckles]

Three hookers and Taylor - cant see how it can work! What a debacle. The club cant afford to keep him - too much damage done, and cant pay out enough to get rid of him. They created this mess to start with, and by signing Ballin they may as well have poured petrol on it and set it alight.
By some miracle if they have a good start to the year with Farah in the team( Ballin wont be ready by what is currently reported) just maybe the year wont be a complete disaster - and Ballin may just have to wear it. A bad start and take your pick who wears the most level of blame but the saga will continue till one or both of them are gone.
Not sure how much more the fans and the rest of players are prepared to take. A complete stuff up - If they wanted Farah out so badly they should have been sure that they were prepared to part with the funds - worst case scenario - and or ensured that he was given the time to find another club instead of announcing it in late July/August. Failed in both.
Pascoe has got mediators working with them suggesting that he seems to think that a resolution between the two is the best outcome for the club - now that it is obvious that other clubs dont have enough in their cap space for Wests Tigers to benefit from releasing him.
Winning games is our only hope of any level of stability - unless Robbie is in different colours - as it seems Taylor will be given his chance.

You hit the nail right on the head Telltails.
Before Taylor and his thick mate started throwing ultimatums ( or threats ) around . He should have looked under the bikkie tin to check if they could pay him out if it came to the crunch. There's no point in starting all this drama , if they couldn't have the exit strategy of definetly getting him out , if he said no.
The only place the club had to go if that happened , was to pay him what was owed and say goodbye
But their bull at a gate approach was shrugged off by Farah and his management,
And taylor had no fall back plan to go to.
They can't stick him in reserve grade if his form dictates otherwise, without looking plain vindictive. And the media would have a field day. Plus Sponsors would be less than pleased. **_They've shot themselves in the foot, and now Pascoe has to try and rescue something from the wreck that Taylor created._**
Don't hear much from Taylor these days, maybe someone has got him to put his foot back in his mouth, and shut up.
If they were going to have to pay anyone out, guess who would be cheaper to lose.

Taylor created and the board endorsed …. Couldn't agree more GCT.
I actually think the whole Roosters bid is nothing more than a fabrication. I don't think they are the slightest bit interested in Farah .... It's something that may have been contrived behind the scenes to bring the saga to it's next chapter.

 

[tigerap]

Three hookers and Taylor - cant see how it can work! What a debacle. The club cant afford to keep him - too much damage done, and cant pay out enough to get rid of him. They created this mess to start with, and by signing Ballin they may as well have poured petrol on it and set it alight.
By some miracle if they have a good start to the year with Farah in the team( Ballin wont be ready by what is currently reported) just maybe the year wont be a complete disaster - and Ballin may just have to wear it. A bad start and take your pick who wears the most level of blame but the saga will continue till one or both of them are gone.
Not sure how much more the fans and the rest of players are prepared to take. A complete stuff up - If they wanted Farah out so badly they should have been sure that they were prepared to part with the funds - worst case scenario - and or ensured that he was given the time to find another club instead of announcing it in late July/August. Failed in both.
Pascoe has got mediators working with them suggesting that he seems to think that a resolution between the two is the best outcome for the club - now that it is obvious that other clubs dont have enough in their cap space for Wests Tigers to benefit from releasing him.
Winning games is our only hope of any level of stability - unless Robbie is in different colours - as it seems Taylor will be given his chance.

You hit the nail right on the head Telltails.
Before Taylor and his thick mate started throwing ultimatums ( or threats ) around . He should have looked under the bikkie tin to check if they could pay him out if it came to the crunch. There's no point in starting all this drama , if they couldn't have the exit strategy of definetly getting him out , if he said no.
The only place the club had to go if that happened , was to pay him what was owed and say goodbye
But their bull at a gate approach was shrugged off by Farah and his management,
And taylor had no fall back plan to go to.
They can't stick him in reserve grade if his form dictates otherwise, without looking plain vindictive. And the media would have a field day. Plus Sponsors would be less than pleased. **_They've shot themselves in the foot, and now Pascoe has to try and rescue something from the wreck that Taylor created._**
Don't hear much from Taylor these days, maybe someone has got him to put his foot back in his mouth, and shut up.
If they were going to have to pay anyone out, guess who would be cheaper to lose.

Taylor created and the board endorsed …. Couldn't agree more GCT.
I actually think the whole Roosters bid is nothing more than a fabrication. I don't think they are the slightest bit interested in Farah .... It's something that may have been contrived behind the scenes to bring the saga to it's next chapter.

Surely Ayoub and Co aren't that smart are they?

 

[strrretch]

Am totally over this Ayoub guy
what a jerk

 

[foreveratiger]

GNR4LIFE
Telltails has a point, I've had numerous people text, email, call me from the wests tigers about my re-newing my tickets, people are not happy mate, i'm sure the club has done their numbers and realised it, "crap, we have a problem".
i'm an accountant and i have a law degree, i do compliance reports on behalf of my clients and i can tell you this turn around today by the tigers is financially motivated. they've realised that letting Robbie go is simply not not applicable in these circumstances.

Yep spot on icon

I have 5 mates in Sydney who won't be renewing 3 of them a Family of 4\. One of them told me he emailed them 2 Months ago don't even bother calling Them to renew and they still did and Emailed them that he was a valued Member, talk about desperate.
They didn't think of the repercussions of all this and obviously Management didn't get the message at the support for Farah at the Campbelltown game vs the Warriors.

Glad there out really. We are better off without them.

No one cares that your glad :crazy , the Club will .

Everyone is entitled to make there own decisions if it's in there best interest to renew or not ?

Let me tell you for a Family of 4 to be a Season Ticket Holder your looking at over $1000,00 per year just for your Reserved Seating….. + food , Petrol , Merchandise. My mates have spent on average $1500,00 to $2000,00 per year on all cost going to games for there whole Family .
They prefer to pick and choose the games they want to go to subject to how things are going , you pay to be Entertained and it's there right to choose it , doesn't make them any less of a supporter than you some of them have been Season Ticket holders from the onset .

 

[happy_tiger]

Have heard that the Brooks family are absolutely ropable with all these garbage rumours and another WT's player is looking for a new player manager