Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[crazycat]

Geez I hope we don't sign Mansour. I don't think Madge picks him unless he deserves a spot but I also see him as a wasted spot on good dollars.

I can understand signing Mansour for less dollars and letting Nofo go. I don't think that is a good result for the club but it's better than signing Nofo on crazy dollars.

I disagree. Comparing the two Nofo got 17 tries in our team, Mansour got 12 in Penrith.

I would rather have the winger that goes over the line more often then the winger that in a good team goes over less. Now maybe the center's and halves did not punt the ball Mansour's way. But if your scoring 12 at Penrith I imagine you will score less with us.

Overall if were paying good coin we need TOP Shelf players not fringe graders. Cleary's attempt at getting depth ruined us. I would rather pay 600K for JAC then 200K for Mansour.

 

[sleeve]

Katoni Staggs is a better footballer than Stephen Chrichton . He should be the one we are after IMO.

Honestly don’t get some of the hype around Kotoni Staggs

1) he’s not a metre eater
2) can’t defend
3) doesn’t pass the ball

Pulls off the occasional big play, but so does Joey Leilua and half the lot on this forum criticise that bloke to death. As much as it’d be nice to have Staggs, there are other positions we lack depth in which does not include centres. An enforcer up front would be nice...

We don't need centres you say.Well both of our centres are off contract at the end of 2021,and we are talking about 2022. Its a 50/50 chance that 1 or both will be gone.Kei in CC looks good other then that we have TT who the forum has had playing 5/8,wing,centre and seems to lack pace,Momo,Doeihi,in the same boat.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Some people here basically wanting to offer Steven Chrichton around $1 mill per season....."play him fullback" etc etc. Has he ever played fullback whatsoever? He had a few highlights this season but he was playing in the most dominant team outside the best forward pack in the comp. Not sure he is the demi-god that some are making him out to be TBH.
4-try Keith Leilia or whatever his name was would've been signed up for a 10 year, $10 million dollar contract by some on here going by that one decent game he had.

Signing of any player is a gamble. Its not just the Tigers that have had some poor recruits,but i think some of the bad signings we have made were due to panic buys when little talent was around . We are all confident with our new recruitment staff,and us like other teams will at times pay overs for a quality players.10 yr 10mil contracts are suicide, but paying market value won"t get either of the Crichtons or any top class player,its a bidding war.

I understand we probably will have to pay overs, that's not the issue for me. It's people saying "throw him at fullback" etc, he might not be a fullback's bunghole.....fullback is a highly specialised position that most times requires more than just a stop-gap.

 

[sleeve]

Some people here basically wanting to offer Steven Chrichton around $1 mill per season....."play him fullback" etc etc. Has he ever played fullback whatsoever? He had a few highlights this season but he was playing in the most dominant team outside the best forward pack in the comp. Not sure he is the demi-god that some are making him out to be TBH.
4-try Keith Leilia or whatever his name was would've been signed up for a 10 year, $10 million dollar contract by some on here going by that one decent game he had.

Signing of any player is a gamble. Its not just the Tigers that have had some poor recruits,but i think some of the bad signings we have made were due to panic buys when little talent was around . We are all confident with our new recruitment staff,and us like other teams will at times pay overs for a quality players.10 yr 10mil contracts are suicide, but paying market value won"t get either of the Crichtons or any top class player,its a bidding war.

I understand we probably will have to pay overs, that's not the issue for me. It's people saying "throw him at fullback" etc, he might not be a fullback's bunghole.....fullback is a highly specialised position that most times requires more than just a stop-gap.

I agree,neither him or Laurie are proven,but theres not many Teddys and Papps on the market, and these players have skill and speed which we surely lack.

 

[earl]

Overall if were paying good coin we need TOP Shelf players not fringe graders. Cleary’s attempt at getting depth ruined us. I would rather pay 600K for JAC then 200K for Mansour.

So would I. I don't want Mansour. The only reason I can see to get him is that Nofo wants top dollar and it's a smart decision to let him go and get Mansour cheaper to replace him.

I don't want that to happen but I also don't want to see Nofo on overs.

Personally I think Kepaoa is a real talent and Mansour wouldn't make my team even if he was here.

 

[Tigerwould]

Geez I hope we don't sign Mansour. I don't think Madge picks him unless he deserves a spot but I also see him as a wasted spot on good dollars.

I can understand signing Mansour for less dollars and letting Nofo go. I don't think that is a good result for the club but it's better than signing Nofo on crazy dollars.

I disagree. Comparing the two Nofo got 17 tries in our team, Mansour got 12 in Penrith.

I would rather have the winger that goes over the line more often then the winger that in a good team goes over less. Now maybe the center's and halves did not punt the ball Mansour's way. But if your scoring 12 at Penrith I imagine you will score less with us.

Overall if were paying good coin we need TOP Shelf players not fringe graders. Cleary's attempt at getting depth ruined us. I would rather pay 600K for JAC then 200K for Mansour.

The thing the impressed me was Penrith’s defence this year. When we played them they had so many players (3 or 4 at a time) making good contact in the tackle and driving us back. I was surprised they didn’t run out of puff using all that energy. They kept it up and we spent too much energy trying to get out of our quarter.
Whoever comes here from Penrith..I want them to bring that. They kept it up for the whole season.
We have never had too much trouble scoring points.

 

[hank37w]

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

"As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money."

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

 

[tony soprano]

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

"As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money."

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

They put you in a worse off position

 

[Newtown]

Pearce at a discounted price is a yes from me

He'll never play for WT.

What’s your reasoning?

Said he'd never play for the same club as his old man - always felt he'd be compared to him.

What one person says and actually does ..... all depends on circumstances which are presented at place of time.

Wayne Pearce never played for Wests Tigers.

 

[Roar_Power]

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

"As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money."

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don't hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Pearce at a discounted price is a yes from me

He'll never play for WT.

What’s your reasoning?

Said he'd never play for the same club as his old man - always felt he'd be compared to him.

What one person says and actually does ..... all depends on circumstances which are presented at place of time.

Wayne Pearce never played for Wests Tigers.

Are you sure about that?
These must be the same people thank think Tommy is a Wests Tigers great also. Mitchell doesnt seem like he's the sharpest tool in the shed so he must be thinking he doesnt want to play on the same grounds as his dad did.

 

[earl]

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

"As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money."

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

My dad was a doctor and always used financial planners. They have cost him a lot of money for sub par results.

 

[earl]

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

So who gets better returns. The guy who invests in dumb indexes with low fees or the guy who goes through you.

It's not a trick question. If you know your stuff you know the answer.

 

[TigerVinnie]

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

So who gets better returns. The guy who invests in dumb indexes with low fees or the guy who goes through you.

It's not a trick question. If you know your stuff you know the answer.

This is a signing suggestions thread about a footy team and you're insulting a mans work :face_with_rolling_eyes: guess the offseason must be pretty quiet this year...

 

[Roar_Power]

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

So who gets better returns. The guy who invests in dumb indexes with low fees or the guy who goes through you.

It's not a trick question. If you know your stuff you know the answer.

Earl, do some research on what a financial planner does. Its not all investment management. Read up!

 

[JD Tiger]

Pearce at a discounted price is a yes from me

He'll never play for WT.

What’s your reasoning?

Said he'd never play for the same club as his old man - always felt he'd be compared to him.

What one person says and actually does ..... all depends on circumstances which are presented at place of time.

Wayne Pearce never played for Wests Tigers.

True. He was our first coach though (if memory serves).

 

[ConePuncher]

Please don't tell me there is an substance to the Mitchell Pearce rumours.

 

[tonza]

even mentioned in the post.And how do you or anyone else knows if they were trying to recruit him?There is a recruitment team that weighs up the pros and cons,Madge is not the sole recruiter.I’m sure the club has spoken to many players and for many reasons were not deemed suitable.



Here is a scenario. If the Knights were to get rid of Pearce as the situation becomes untenable, would you be interested for 2 years? We would be the only club in a position to, unless hes willing to go to a club for next to nothing.


I thought we recently paid $630k for a 5/8 who we tried at FB while we waited for Benji to retire? Where do we move him if we take on an aging $1m half?

Another panic buy on overs.

What’s your opinion on the dogs paying JAC 700k, cotric 600k and burton 650k ? The Flanagan buy was like 350-400k . I think that’s a good buy personally . The others are a huge risk IMO . JAC , at least will be the most overpaid elite winger in the game , so there’s that , but cotric on 600k , with that forward pack and lack of room , can’t be good . And burton wasn’t exactly Ponga coming through where giving him 600k was a calculated risk . I don’t see what the buzz is about personally . He’s not a better than say 20th half in the comp , so they really are banking on him getting to top 10 . Which is what that money indicates . That to me is a panic buy . At least Mbye when we signed him was playing amazing football.

If Mbye was playing amazing football they would have kept him.

Lol are you serious ? When we grabbed him , he was in the form of his life . That was the same year , they let woods go after 8 games , Klemmer go at the end of the year , and mbye go mid year as well. Thier cap , was gone . At least try to be objective .

My recollection was that Mybe was exactly the same at the Bulldogs as he has been here - tried in various positions and never cemented himself in any.
In saying that I think he had a reasonable year this year just not equivalent to how much he reportedly earns .

I agree Telltales. Dogs were very happy to get rid of him, after trying him in every position without success. His defence was terrible. I remember saying he was not the messiah that members on the forum thought, and didnt I get howled down. I did say he would be a good utility, " at the right price". Nothing has changed except the price is not right. No use getting rid of him because , after subsidy, you would end up paying the same money for a player of the same ability. Maybe his manager was also Clearys.

 

[Furious1]

even mentioned in the post.And how do you or anyone else knows if they were trying to recruit him?There is a recruitment team that weighs up the pros and cons,Madge is not the sole recruiter.I’m sure the club has spoken to many players and for many reasons were not deemed suitable.



Here is a scenario. If the Knights were to get rid of Pearce as the situation becomes untenable, would you be interested for 2 years? We would be the only club in a position to, unless hes willing to go to a club for next to nothing.


I thought we recently paid $630k for a 5/8 who we tried at FB while we waited for Benji to retire? Where do we move him if we take on an aging $1m half?

Another panic buy on overs.

What’s your opinion on the dogs paying JAC 700k, cotric 600k and burton 650k ? The Flanagan buy was like 350-400k . I think that’s a good buy personally . The others are a huge risk IMO . JAC , at least will be the most overpaid elite winger in the game , so there’s that , but cotric on 600k , with that forward pack and lack of room , can’t be good . And burton wasn’t exactly Ponga coming through where giving him 600k was a calculated risk . I don’t see what the buzz is about personally . He’s not a better than say 20th half in the comp , so they really are banking on him getting to top 10 . Which is what that money indicates . That to me is a panic buy . **At least Mbye when we signed him was playing amazing football.**

Sorry mate, but that belongs in the Dad Humour thread. In fact it is one of the funniest things Ive ever seen on this forum.
The only time Mbye, amazing and football should be mentioned together is when somebody says "It's amazing any club would pay Mbye 900k per year to play football".

Sure he has had a couple of good games, but he has never played amazing, here or anywhere else.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Please don't tell me there is an substance to the Mitchell Pearce rumours.

7. Pearce
6. Brooks

would look pretty good