Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Champ]

Hodgson would be our kind of signing. A signing that would have been great 5 years ago. I’m sure we’ll bring Teddy home when he’s 34.

At 34 he would still be too good to come back here.

Wouldnt want Teddy back now even at if he was cheap. The truly great players dont sell their character for any price. Money comes & goes, but a persons character is invaluable & lasts a life time. I think he sold out to cheap when he left.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Hodgson could very well just come here and plod hard like Tamou and bring further shame on our houses. But we also can't jag anyone, need experience to mentor our youth and at his best he'd be our best player so I can't complain. The risk/reward on this signing is probably lined up correctly.

He won't be at his best that is for sure. Not fussed either way if he signs with us, he's almost washed up but Liddle hasn't set the world on fire recently either. If Liddle supposedly doesn't want to play under Maguire he needs to be ousted from WT regardless of if Hodgson signs.

 

[Champ]

It’s no surprise all the usual culprits are bagging the Hodgson signing. We have no leaders, simple as that. Liddle is bog average and has clearly been told he’s not apart of this clubs long term ambitions, further emphasised by Simpkins long term contract. Hodgson for 2 years is the ideal mentor for Simpkin and at no real damage to the salary cap.

Matt Ballin MK2

Did we have a young hooker to be mentored at that time ?

The only thing Ballin could of taught anyone was how to select a quality pair of crutches!

Pretty sure before Ballin came to us he had the manly record for most games played in a row

please see last post 🙂

 

[swooping magpie]

Anyone making the argument that Hodgo isn't worth the risk due to his past injury issues need not look any further than the man he'll likely replace. How many serious, season ending injuries has Liddle had in his relatively short career to date? Dodgy shoulders and coming off an ACL a season ago, I'd argue the risk of injury is much the same with either.

Well, it's true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score....(can't remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that but I do see the leadership argument. We still need to remember that Lids was defending in the middle alongside a pack of forwards that woudn't tackle a roast dinner on Sunday but still made around 50 tackles a game, so of course he was getting fatigued.

 

[Tiger5150]

Anyone making the argument that Hodgo isn't worth the risk due to his past injury issues need not look any further than the man he'll likely replace. How many serious, season ending injuries has Liddle had in his relatively short career to date? Dodgy shoulders and coming off an ACL a season ago, I'd argue the risk of injury is much the same with either.

Well, it's true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score....(can't remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that but I do see the leadership argument. We still need to remember that Lids was defending in the middle alongside a pack of forwards that woudn't tackle a roast dinner on Sunday but still made around 50 tackles a game, so of course he was getting fatigued.

Every first grade hooker averages 45+, as did Hodgson.

EDIT: Checked. Liddle averaged 39.5 tackles a game. Hodgson averaged 42.7

 

[Russell]

The injury/age stuff is obviously a concern, but I think it'd be a decent punt if they are happy enough with the medical side of things.
He was definitely disappointing, but that's by his own high standards. He was probably the top hooker in the comp for a year or two, and one of the best players anywhere at his best.
We don't need him to be 2019 Hodgson - we aren't making a run next year. If he can come and play at slightly above replacement value and get Simpkin ready then all good.

I have zero confidence in Liddle, so we need someone to come in and tie us over until Simpkin is ready.

He was never the top hooker in the comp with Cameron Smith around.

 

[TillLindemann]

Well, it’s true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score…(can’t remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that

On the other hand I can't imagine Hodgson telling his teammates to stop tackling Pangai Junior on the tryline.

 

[Nelson]

Anyone making the argument that Hodgo isn't worth the risk due to his past injury issues need not look any further than the man he'll likely replace. How many serious, season ending injuries has Liddle had in his relatively short career to date? Dodgy shoulders and coming off an ACL a season ago, I'd argue the risk of injury is much the same with either.

Well, it's true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score....(can't remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that but I do see the leadership argument. We still need to remember that Lids was defending in the middle alongside a pack of forwards that woudn't tackle a roast dinner on Sunday but still made around 50 tackles a game, so of course he was getting fatigued.

Every first grade hooker averages 45+, as did Hodgson.

EDIT: Checked. Liddle averaged 39.5 tackles a game. Hodgson averaged 42.7

You edited before I could pull you up on that one!

 

[Tiger5150]

Anyone making the argument that Hodgo isn't worth the risk due to his past injury issues need not look any further than the man he'll likely replace. How many serious, season ending injuries has Liddle had in his relatively short career to date? Dodgy shoulders and coming off an ACL a season ago, I'd argue the risk of injury is much the same with either.

Well, it's true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score....(can't remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that but I do see the leadership argument. We still need to remember that Lids was defending in the middle alongside a pack of forwards that woudn't tackle a roast dinner on Sunday but still made around 50 tackles a game, so of course he was getting fatigued.

Every first grade hooker averages 45+, as did Hodgson.

EDIT: Checked. Liddle averaged 39.5 tackles a game. Hodgson averaged 42.7

You edited before I could pull you up on that one!

Not like me to shoot my mouth off before checking ;-)

 

[Newtown]

After a huge number of pages today on the Josh Hodgson signing. I would like to ask the question has he, will he or won't he been signed?

 

[Aceshigh]

Won’t be here

 

[happy_tiger]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU19GT0h-7E/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Buzz on the drink again maybe?

What does it say? I don't have instagram so can't access the link.

Buzz just polarising popular opinion nothing exciting.

I fail to see how any player can afford to point the finger if this rubbish is true.

The story on Fox says that several players were dumbfounded that Brooks won the award and not Douehi. Can't say that I blame them for being considered confused by that decision

You need to learn how to defend before you can be considered for a top award.

What about a halfback who can't pass, kick, direct or talk?

Isn't Douehi in the halves also. Maybe he should pick up a bit of that slack. I love how its always Brooks' fault in a 17 man team.

Funny that. When Douehi was in the halves and getting the ball when he wanted it, taking on some of the kicking duties and 'picking up the slack' as you put it. Whilst getting good reviews from the pundits, what did Madge do? Shifted him to centre coz his little boy Brooks didn't like it.

What the. Are you suggesting Douehi was moved to the centres because Brooks didnt like it. Are we going to blame him for that now too. Surely your having a lend.

Doueihi and LL were probably our weakest in defence all year. Considering we are a team where defence was our biggest weakness, the praising of Doueihi to the extent he receives on the forum is way over the top. After two knee reconstructions, I'd suggest his future is in the forwards and he will need to improve his workrate and defence.

AD is our only attacking threat. Moving him to the forwards negates that and we get what was served up by Brooks last round

Since junior days, I've always believed Doueihi is the Paul Langmack style of lock forward. Langmack was a great link between the forwards and backs and basically a very clever second 5/8. I'd like to see Doueihi in this role.

Douehi ball skills aren't in the same city as Langmack's were

How was his skills at the same age.

Langmack was on a Kangaroo Immortals tour at the same age

 

[Needaname]

Anyone making the argument that Hodgo isn't worth the risk due to his past injury issues need not look any further than the man he'll likely replace. How many serious, season ending injuries has Liddle had in his relatively short career to date? Dodgy shoulders and coming off an ACL a season ago, I'd argue the risk of injury is much the same with either.

Well, it's true that Liddle was coming off an ACL injury this last season but he still managed to go the length of the field to score....(can't remember which game it was). I doubt that Hodgson could do that but I do see the leadership argument. We still need to remember that Lids was defending in the middle alongside a pack of forwards that woudn't tackle a roast dinner on Sunday but still made around 50 tackles a game, so of course he was getting fatigued.

Every first grade hooker averages 45+, as did Hodgson.

EDIT: Checked. Liddle averaged 39.5 tackles a game. Hodgson averaged 42.7

Oh, I got that round the wrong way. Thanks.

So it’s an average of 3 less tackles a game. He also averaged 10 less minutes a game. And registered 6 less missed tackles, 10 more ineffective tackles and 11 more 1 on 1 tackles. 3 more try causes, 6 more conceded line breaks but 6 less errors.

As I said pretty similar stats for this year.

But we know Liddle is going to improve ( if even slightly) and Hodgson is going to decline ( also possibly to be slightly ).

So the club needs to work out who would be best for the team in the short term and the long term.

And as per the comments it seems there isn’t a long term option so it’s a matter of who is best for the team in the short term.

Also factoring the additional money required to obtain Hodgson.

I’d really like to know if it is ‘true’ he is off Madge.

 

[Lauren]

Hope the club have put an offer in for Niukore.
Think our centre and second row depth is pretty poor.

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

The dt reporting the Raiders have emerged as a potential suitor for former Bulldogs back-rower Adam Elliott.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Can only think that Liddle has finally got the offer from the Dogs/eels that he always wanted!
Truth is,after considerable investment by WTs and even more patience,hes barely an NRL standard 9 as it is...and if so,for only 60 mins...and unfortunately Simpkin isnt there yet
Hogson was the one of the best 9s in the comp a year or two agobut ,isnt anything like the same player in 2021 and Ricky rightly started Starling most of the year
Not sure how much of his recent form is Ricky burnout vs body burnout
Who wld wanna be an NRL coach...!

What a ridiculous post. He’s been injured half the time he’s been here. And it’s been a lot longer than a year since Hodgson was one of the best 9’s in the comp. At 32, don’t expect him to recapture that form either.

Absolutely correct!!
Liddle is as brittle as a matchstick.Every time he gets folded you just hold yr breath that theres not yet another season ending injury..like the last time..and the time before that..and..
And when he actually does make it onto the field..and actually stay there,like he has for most of 2021,he looks pretty average tbh...nothing special... before burning out after 60 mins and needing a replacement .Not sure I want a 9 on the bench.
And btw,Im no fan of a 32 yo hooker who hasnt shown form for some while..regardless of his "leadership skills",Hodgson is the same as a Tamou or any other ...past their best-by date..and by some margin.
We need to persevere with Liddle and Simpkin for another season and see exactly what weve got,and then make an informed decision..which is unusual on this forum!

So the answer to a player whose as brittle as a matchstick is replace him with a 32 year who has had 2 knee recos in the 3 years. Very Wests Tigers. Matt Ballin 2.0

Yet agian you seem incapable of actually ..um ..reading!!It aint that hard
Think I clearly stated what I wld propose re retaining both Liddle and Simpkin for another year,with Hogson having no attraction...
Is there any other way I cld state this more clearly?

Yet again? Be nice mate.

Didn't you say Liddle on the way out was a rubbish rumour or suggestion?

It is atm.

 

[Viking Warrior]

It’s no surprise all the usual culprits are bagging the Hodgson signing. We have no leaders, simple as that. Liddle is bog average and has clearly been told he’s not apart of this clubs long term ambitions, further emphasised by Simpkins long term contract. Hodgson for 2 years is the ideal mentor for Simpkin and at no real damage to the salary cap.

Hodgson is what this team need however negativity is again King of this forum.

I wonder why people could be negative. This is such a successful, well run club. What is there to be negative about?

War and poverty are things to be negative about. Not every bloody signing your footy team makes.

War and poverty aren’t topical on a footy forum.

War is pretty standard on this form

True. I guess poverty is too. Look at the club we support.

Go support another club if you wanna run this club down.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

some vigorous discussion on here today.

Tell me about it. I can feel it in my plums.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It’s no surprise all the usual culprits are bagging the Hodgson signing. We have no leaders, simple as that. Liddle is bog average and has clearly been told he’s not apart of this clubs long term ambitions, further emphasised by Simpkins long term contract. Hodgson for 2 years is the ideal mentor for Simpkin and at no real damage to the salary cap.

Hodgson is what this team need however negativity is again King of this forum.

I wonder why people could be negative. This is such a successful, well run club. What is there to be negative about?

War and poverty are things to be negative about. Not every bloody signing your footy team makes.

War and poverty aren’t topical on a footy forum.

War is pretty standard on this form

True. I guess poverty is too. Look at the club we support.

Go support another club if you wanna run this club down.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8M8EI3M1E

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

After all this discussion, Liddle is still here

For now.

He will still be here round 1 next season lol

Are you sure ?

Yes