Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[mightymagpie]

RTS? Yes please. He was a big loss for the Rorters and was probably the reason they pursued Teddy.
Whilst I like Tui and he deserves a shot a FB, unfortunately for him if RTS were to get on the bus, it’ll be the same story as at the Warriors with Tui pushed out.

 

[Tim Sheens]

RTS rumour was started by Marty Johns who is in the know more than most. Player manager that told me Woods to the Dogs before it was public confirmed we are after him.
Good to hear there seems to be inside mail on here linking is currently to RTS as I think it’s legit. I think he’s better than Teddy don’t forget it takes 12 months to return to form after serious leg injuries.

Certainly take him over 2017 Teddy.

 

[Russell]

Where would you play Lolohea? Guy has shown enough to see that he's got talent.

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Where would you play Lolohea? Guy has shown enough to see that he's got talent.

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

Yeah that could actually work. We are lacking a bit of pace in the backline so having RTS and Tui both there could be good.

1\. RTS
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Tui
5\. Fonua/Milne

 

[wt01]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

Yeah that could actually work. We are lacking a bit of pace in the backline so having RTS and Tui both there could be good.

1\. RTS
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Tui
5\. Fonua/Milne

tui wont play centres….he came to tigers not to play centre or wing for warriors

 

[avocadoontoast]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

Yeah that could actually work. We are lacking a bit of pace in the backline so having RTS and Tui both there could be good.

1\. RTS
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Tui
5\. Fonua/Milne

tui wont play centres….he came to tigers not to play centre or wing for warriors

He doesn't determine where he plays, the coach does.

 

[Geo]

Here we go again….RTS would walk straight into our team at Fullback...

Really given the depth Cleary is assembling no one should be assured a spot...

The rest would sought itself out..

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Where would you play Lolohea? Guy has shown enough to see that he's got talent.

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

For mine Tui is a great utility player. Similar to Gutherson at the Eels.

 

[colmcd]

Where would you play Lolohea? Guy has shown enough to see that he's got talent.

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

For mine Tui is a great utility player. Similar to Gutherson at the Eels.

Yea, I hear you with Tui as a Utility player. Did anyone else watch Ben Barba play for the dogs. He was that Utility player and I think Tui could be that kind of player.

IMHO move Tui to 5/8 move Reynolds to the centers 2019 onwards. Or hey move Tui to halfback once Marshall retires and if Brooks does not perform… these things sort themselves out.

Totally agreed though, we need multiple X factors on the field. Even when we had Marshall + Farah we did not get far enough in our attack. I think that's why Manly and the storm were/are so dominant. Storm Slater+Cronk+Munster(or whomever is their spare 5/8)+smith and other centers... you don't know who is going to cross. Likewise Manly had DCE+Foran, yet would often attack through Jamie Lyon... Roosters two great halves + SKD and Jennings.

We need people who can add that surprise.

 

[Russell]

Where would you play Lolohea? Guy has shown enough to see that he's got talent.

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

 

[newtiger]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

Yeah that could actually work. We are lacking a bit of pace in the backline so having RTS and Tui both there could be good.

1\. RTS
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Tui
5\. Fonua/Milne

tui wont play centres….he came to tigers not to play centre or wing for warriors

Tui will play where ever Ivan puts him.
I don't think Ivan trolls here for his team selection either.

 

[Nelson]

Centres. He's too good for ISP.

Yeah that could actually work. We are lacking a bit of pace in the backline so having RTS and Tui both there could be good.

1\. RTS
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Tui
5\. Fonua/Milne

tui wont play centres….he came to tigers not to play centre or wing for warriors

He certainly seems to have left with a preference to play in the spine but I imagine his primary motivation was to get back into a first grade squad given he was stuck in reggies at the Warriors…He wasn't looking at a guaranteed spine position at either of his other major suitors either (Cowboys and Raiders).

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

I agree

The one blemish for me about Ivan is that he hasn't come out and backed tui. Instead we have been linked to moylan , Watson, naqiama and now rts Ivan expressly commented interest about the first three.

To me tui proven his up to it and it's about time Ivan backed him instead of chasing everyone else

 

[TYGA]

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

I agree

The one blemish for me about Ivan is that he hasn't come out and backed tui. Instead we have been linked to moylan , Watson, naqiama and now rts Ivan expressly commented interest about the first three.

To me tui proven his up to it and it's about time Ivan backed him instead of chasing everyone else

At this stage of the year we are not playing footy. Ivan’s main role is to finalise the roster and rip into preseason.
Who starts and what position should never be determined at this stage. Ivan is a pro something we are not used to naming a staring lineup including Rankin, Littlejohn in November preseason is JT style.

 

[avocadoontoast]

ISP I guess. He'd be a good backup for RTS.

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

Firstly, RTS is in a completely different league to Tui.

Secondly, I couldn't care less what was said to Tui when he joined (and I highly doubt he was promised anything - if you have proof i'd love to see it). Ivan's job is to win and in doing that he needs to field the best possible team he can. If Tui is the best fullback we have then fine, but if we find someone MUCH better (which RTS is) who wants to join us, then we need to sign them up quick smart. It's a loser mentality to say otherwise.

If we get RTS the only place Tui could fit in would be in the centres. He'd be our third best 5/8 after Reynolds and Marshall IMO.

 

[avocadoontoast]

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

I agree

The one blemish for me about Ivan is that he hasn't come out and backed tui. Instead we have been linked to moylan , Watson, naqiama and now rts Ivan expressly commented interest about the first three.

To me tui proven his up to it and it's about time Ivan backed him instead of chasing everyone else

Yes, let's all rip in to the coach for trying to field the best team possible.

 

[Nelson]

No way do you play Tui in ISP - as it stands now, whatever 17 you pick, you only have one player in the backs that has the x factor and that is Tui.

Buy another player with the x factor and put your first x factor player in ISP.

Sure - that would be one of the reasons we don't play finals - stupid decisions.

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

Firstly, RTS is in a completely different league to Tui.

Secondly, I couldn't care less what was said to Tui when he joined (and I highly doubt he was promised anything - if you have proof i'd love to see it). Ivan's job is to win and in doing that he needs to field the best possible team he can. If Tui is the best fullback we have then fine, but if we find someone MUCH better (which RTS is) who wants to join us, then we need to sign them up quick smart. It's a loser mentality to say otherwise.

If we get RTS the only place Tui could fit in would be in the centres. He'd be our third best 5/8 after Reynolds and Marshall IMO.

Looking at his skillset I think Lolohea's best positions in order are probably: fullback; halves; centre (in the Jamie Lyon mould); then wing. Defence would be an issue at centre but he would be wasted in attack on the wing - no way to utilise his passing game and no space to work his step.

Given the vague rumours going around and the very high likelihood that the Warriors are just going to release their best player for no reason I will do a team list: 1\. RTS 2\. Nofo (right) 3\. Lolohea (left) 4\. Milne (right) 5\. Suli (left). Lolo and Suli can switch up between attack and defence…and John Morris at halfback. It's Sheenius, I know.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

If we get RTS where would you play Tui?

I would leave that up to Cleary.

However, I would like to think Cleary will honor his promise of giving Tui first crack at full back. He never promised him the position, just that he would have first crack at the spot. Tui did not come to us to play in the centre, wing, on the bench or to play in ISP. You can't say one thing and then when the player burns his bridges offer him something different. You can but it is not ethical.

Personally I would not be going after RTS as a full back as we have one. In the event we were in the market for RTS - it may be a possibility to play him at 5/8 and Reynolds in the centre. Shoot me down if you will but on RTS's 2017 form, I am not convinced he is a better FB than Tui - maybe on Rorters form but that was a much better team.

I am hoping I am not proven wrong (have been on numerous occasions) but I think Tui has amazing talent that we have only seen glimpses of so far - I am sure his speed will pick up in the off season as he loses excess but gains muscle, reasonable short kicking game, good passing game, sums up situations quickly and well and his general defence needs work although he always has a go. His cover defence at full back on occasions has almost been Sattler / Raper like - herding the attacker to the sideline and smashing them over the sideline. His reading of the game would also be a great asset at FB in directing the team. Hopefully he will get the go he deserves - if he fails he then would only have himself to blame and would have to take up another position.

Personally I believe in him and I look forward to seeing him giving the position his all.

I agree

The one blemish for me about Ivan is that he hasn't come out and backed tui. Instead we have been linked to moylan , Watson, naqiama and now rts Ivan expressly commented interest about the first three.

To me tui proven his up to it and it's about time Ivan backed him instead of chasing everyone else

At this stage of the year we are not playing footy. Ivan’s main role is to finalise the roster and rip into preseason.
Who starts and what position should never be determined at this stage. Ivan is a pro something we are not used to naming a staring lineup including Rankin, Littlejohn in November preseason is JT style.

His told Benji that Reynolds and Brooks are a shoe on for the halves.