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@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

You think he's interesting. Good on ya, that's your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.
 
His level of understanding which results in detailed analysis has nothing to do with the pedigree of his players. Their ability to execute does. Robinson knows his stuff which was exposed and relayed to us in an excellent, in depth interview.
I personally think many coaches are as smart, Maguire included - but not all.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122116) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

You think he's interesting. Good on ya, that's your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.

What's changed from gf night 2018? You were loving their win that night

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28720/2018-grand-final-melbourne-v-roosters/204?page=14
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122127) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122116) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

You think he's interesting. Good on ya, that's your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.

What's changed from gf night 2018? You were loving their win that night

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28720/2018-grand-final-melbourne-v-roosters/204?page=14

What are you trying desperately to prove from that?
Doesn't mention a thing about me thinking Robinson is a legendary coach.
Had a beaut night watching the mighty Storm get beat though!?
 
If you think the NRL has bad coverage, you should check out the state of Super Rugby in NZ. Absolutely dreadful, some of the most boring and dry characters you'll ever see. The NRL is a godsend for someone like me who grew up on boring Kiwi chat.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122141) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122127) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122116) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

You think he's interesting. Good on ya, that's your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.

What's changed from gf night 2018? You were loving their win that night

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28720/2018-grand-final-melbourne-v-roosters/204?page=14

What are you trying desperately to prove from that?
Doesn't mention a thing about me thinking Robinson is a legendary coach.
Had a beaut night watching the mighty Storm get beat though!?

I actually want to know who you do rate as the best coach in the game. We’re only accustomed to hearing what you hate, and usually in the most bitter tone imaginable. It’s clear you don’t rate Bennett, Bellamy and Robinson. Who does that leave, Stuart? You don’t like him much either, and who you like and dislike as individuals has a significant influence on how you rate them as coaches.
 
@Kazoo-Kid said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122146) said:
If you think the NRL has bad coverage, you should check out the state of Super Rugby in NZ. Absolutely dreadful, some of the most boring and dry characters you'll ever see. The NRL is a godsend for someone like me who grew up on boring Kiwi chat.

If Anasta, Corey Parker, Ennis and Justin Hodges are an upgrade then those Kiwi's must have been excruciating.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122148) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122141) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122127) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122116) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

You think he's interesting. Good on ya, that's your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.

What's changed from gf night 2018? You were loving their win that night

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28720/2018-grand-final-melbourne-v-roosters/204?page=14

What are you trying desperately to prove from that?
Doesn't mention a thing about me thinking Robinson is a legendary coach.
Had a beaut night watching the mighty Storm get beat though!?

I actually want to know who you do rate as the best coach in the game. We’re only accustomed to hearing what you hate, and usually in the most bitter tone imaginable. It’s clear you don’t rate Bennett, Bellamy and Robinson. Who does that leave, Stuart? You don’t like him much either, and who you like and dislike as individuals has a significant influence on how you rate them as coaches.

Hasler.
He'd be up there.
Is it a coincidence that "the best coaches" usually have the most talent laden teams? How would they go coaching trash? How would a hack coach like Kearney go with the Roosters or Rabbitohs squads?
It's like asking whether Lewis Hamilton would win the F1 driving championship year after year if he was driving a car from one of the hopeless manufacturer's? Probably not.

If a coach doesn't have quality cattle, then that is the litmus test to their true ability IMO.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122116) said:
You think he’s interesting. Good on ya, that’s your perogative. I reckon he would put a glass eye to sleep.

Personally it's less about how successful Trent Robinson is, but more about his willingness to talk in public about his analysis.

The analysis on TV, which is what the OP was about, is typically terrible. Most of the blokes they put up there are gibberers, so even if they have good insights, they struggle to explain them to the audience. Think Kimmorley or Joey. Gus sensationalises everything, though he does have a strong analytical mind, and Sterlo is probably the best, but they use him so often for the hosting job rather than analysis.

And it's just too short, too superficial. They have or used to have that NRL on Fox show where Kimmorley went through tape, and I think I've seen Gasnier do it before, but it just felt like punters at the pub talking rubbish, and I did not find it insightful. For example, I'd love to see them roll tape on a given player or team, showing you what they do week in and week out, that might not be evident just from watching the weekend matches. Matt Elliott had a segment going on NRL.com for a while, where he analysed certain teams ahead of that week's matches, and it's probably the best and closest thing to what interests me, though I don't think he managed to keep it going round after round beyond 2018?

It's a different thing anyway when an actual coach runs the plays and provides commentary. Not someone who used to be a coach, but someone right now, in the current rules and tactics, and showing what they look at and how they analyse tape. I mean, coaches spend a billion hours a week going over tape, but we rarely get an insight into what that looks like.

In the Robinson example, they ran the footage of the Saints try and he made such interesting comments, about how well Radley was tracking the preceding play, but how Saints penetrated the ruck several times, before finally getting a quick PTB and switch that led to the try. And interesting how quickly he noted that the Roosters inside defenders had failed to get across to present a front-on body position, such that when you are drifting across field you can only step off one foot at a time, which limits your capacity to adjust to switches and put a front-on shoulder shot.

So I find it instantly fascinating. I could watch tape all day if someone paid me to do it. Robinson speaks well, he analyses well, he has the track record to back what he says, and he is willing to talk in public. Tim Sheens, by all accounts, spends 97% of his time talking about rugby league, perhaps even during dinner, but I don't ever recall him doing a match or play breakdown on TV.
 
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

Did u hear he got his Mercedes stolen from his drive way but some young adlayz
 
@Demps said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122408) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

Did u hear he got his Mercedes stolen from his drive way but some young adlayz

Heard that. They probably had 4 of 'em to choose from.
 
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@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1121445) said:
Love listening to Robbo he makes it so interesting.... Sheens was similar I could. Listen to them for hours

I enjoyed Matt Elliott too. He has a great footy brain.

Need a serious analytical show for people who actually want to see some decent analysis on plays and performance. Kind of like a coaches insight into where players are going right and wrong.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1124185) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1121445) said:
Love listening to Robbo he makes it so interesting.... Sheens was similar I could. Listen to them for hours

I enjoyed Matt Elliott too. He has a great footy brain.

Need a serious analytical show for people who actually want to see some decent analysis on plays and performance. Kind of like a coaches insight into where players are going right and wrong.

He’s dull but the ex panthers coach is great to listen to - can’t remember his name (off season blues)
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122538) said:
@Demps said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122408) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

Did u hear he got his Mercedes stolen from his drive way but some young adlayz

Heard that. They probably had 4 of 'em to choose from.



@Fade-To-Black said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122538) said:
@Demps said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122408) said:
@innsaneink said in [Standard of coverage](/post/1122111) said:
Give Robinson the Titans coaching job, see how much analysis he is affording the waiting masses then.

I see this argument often... It's stupid and immature

The best coaches get to choose where they work because they have the runs on the board, same with players

But even if he was coaching the GC I'd still love listening to him... He's interesting and insightful and I learn something every time

Did u hear he got his Mercedes stolen from his drive way but some young adlayz

Heard that. They probably had 4 of 'em to choose from.

Actually broke into his house, whilst his wife and three little kids were sleeping. Had two goes at his car and they found it at Greystanes.

Not good - hope they catch the scumbags.
 
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