Tevita Pangai Junior

[iwasright]

I can confirm we are definitely out of the race for TPJ he’s manager is asking $800000 plus, good on the club for not paying overs. We have learnt from our mistakes.

Any news on other targets?

Nothing ATM but all the talk about funicane is rubbish

 

[iwasright]

I can confirm we are definitely out of the race for TPJ he’s manager is asking $800000 plus, good on the club for not paying overs. We have learnt from our mistakes.

Right, who is on our next target player who will send Wests Tigers supporters on another dummy run of exuberance, excitement to be followed with disappointment?

Finucane

All rubbish

 

[balmain boy]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Is that 600k plus what the Broncs chip in? or including the money from the broncos? We shouldn't walk away completely. Hopefully we've made it known that should his demands lower back to a reasonable figure we're still very interested. That's how negotations work. Offer, counter offer, then potentially revised offers. Walking away means another club can sign him cheaper as there's less competition.

We should be interested at the right price, regardless of what actions his agent has come up with in the past.

 

[Newtown]

Take it as FACT WestsTigers NOT in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them ...
https://twitter.com/mrchrisnico/status/1410569442656866308?s=19

Maybe Pangai isn't interested in us ...the truth can be painful ladies and gentlemen

Going on past experience, I would say you are bang on

According to some on here we didn't miss Signing him as we "pulled out" fact is another player who did not want to come here.
I am glad we missed him at the price

Exactly, end result is he didn't sign our offer, did he really get a $750k offer from the Dogs, or was he just trying to jack his price up with us.
But same old story, we look great when we are the only club chasing a player, as soon as any other club enters the market, we miss out

Donj't you think these players meet up with Wests tigers first for a reason suitable only to themselves, Wests tigers are known as the biggest dummies in the NRL,

 

[851]

I can confirm we are definitely out of the race for TPJ he’s manager is asking $800000 plus, good on the club for not paying overs. We have learnt from our mistakes.

Any news on other targets?

Nothing ATM but all the talk about funicane is rubbish

Rubbish we are not interested, or rubbish the $800k a year for 4 years, I have heard he has lowered his asking price and terms of contract

 

[iwasright]

I can confirm we are definitely out of the race for TPJ he’s manager is asking $800000 plus, good on the club for not paying overs. We have learnt from our mistakes.

Any news on other targets?

Nothing ATM but all the talk about funicane is rubbish

Rubbish we are not interested, or rubbish the $800k a year for 4 years, I have heard he has lowered his asking price and terms of contract

All rubbish about tigers going all out for Dale

 

[Nelson]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

 

[happy_tiger]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

I think this weekend will be the 1st time you can judge Burton truly and honestly

 

[BAGNF05]

The club should go all out for "the Cheese" ..he is the style of player we need - 1000% commitment for 80min (our biggest weakness)

Right, let the Cheese screw Wests Tigers too.

Are the lads who go out to meet these blokes ok? I know what’s it’s like when you keep getting knocked back, not good for the confidence ?

 

[Needaname]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

 

[BAGNF05]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

 

[Needaname]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

We did that didn’t we?

 

[BAGNF05]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

We did that didn’t we?

Yes . Wiki says 8 glorious games for Balmain for one try. That’s how these wrecking ball signings sometimes go.

 

[BAGNF05]

What's the good news today

We don’t play tonight

We r the last game on sunday though...ugh

Sickie Monday for sure, drowning sorrows or celebration ?

 

[Needaname]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

We did that didn’t we?

Yes . Wiki says 8 glorious games for Balmain for one try. That’s how these wrecking ball signings sometimes go.

Wow thought he was with us for longer. Maybe some of the games were suspensions.
The player that came to mind was Jason Lowrie I guess.

But still I think you get my analogy. Both Asotasi and Mason came to grade at a similar time but certainly different players but equally viewed as quality players.

So yeah as someone mentioned let’s give 800k to Payne Hass to force him to break his contract!

No but I would seriously be having a look at some of the young North Queensland forwards and testing out which path they are willing to go down re Tamalolo.

 

[BAGNF05]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

We did that didn’t we?

Yes . Wiki says 8 glorious games for Balmain for one try. That’s how these wrecking ball signings sometimes go.

Wow thought he was with us for longer. Maybe some of the games were suspensions.
The player that came to mind was Jason Lowrie I guess.

But still I think you get my analogy. Both Asotasi and Mason came to grade at a similar time but certainly different players but equally viewed as quality players.

So yeah as someone mentioned let’s give 800k to Payne Hass to force him to break his contract!

No but I would seriously be having a look at some of the young North Queensland forwards and testing out which path they are willing to go down re Tamalolo.

Yeah, we need defensive forwards. If all we can get is juniors we should be signing the best defenders from each age group until we fluke a good year.

 

[BAGNF05]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

If you got him for 700 you’re laughing. His performances through 20 FG games have been mint.

 

[earl]

paying overs for names has failed every time…

I'd rather miss every marquee signing than pay overs. I'm even okay with the Tamou signing because it wasn't too much money. It's the Reynolds,Packer & Mbye signings that kill us.

 

[earl]

You develop Tuki Simpkins to be our Pangai Jnr.. you develop Tuilagi to be our Dale Funicane already here .. at a fraction of the cost

That is the route we have no choice in taking …paying overs for names has failed every time…Getting players already in the system playing over their pay grade is the choice they have made…just means we have to wait unfortunately ..

Fans have been waiting over a decade. Asking them to wait another 5 years for the administration to sort out the mess they created in the first place is asking too much.

You don't have a choice. That is all sunk cost. Paying over is just asking for another 5+ year rebuild post getting the dodgy contracts off our books.

 

[Needaname]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

We did that didn’t we?

Yes . Wiki says 8 glorious games for Balmain for one try. That’s how these wrecking ball signings sometimes go.

Wow thought he was with us for longer. Maybe some of the games were suspensions.
The player that came to mind was Jason Lowrie I guess.

But still I think you get my analogy. Both Asotasi and Mason came to grade at a similar time but certainly different players but equally viewed as quality players.

So yeah as someone mentioned let’s give 800k to Payne Hass to force him to break his contract!

No but I would seriously be having a look at some of the young North Queensland forwards and testing out which path they are willing to go down re Tamalolo.

Yeah, we need defensive forwards. If all we can get is juniors we should be signing the best defenders from each age group until we fluke a good year.

Good question for the people in the know, is it a particular attribute that we focus on in our junior recruitment?