Tigers dump Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to the sharks

@smeghead said:
I respect everything that these two guys put out there every week in terms of effort, pride etc.

However if they were both to leave and be replaced by younger and/or cheaper versions of themselves who are on the upward arc of their career I have no issue with that.
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I'm with you well said
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@milford_magic said:
Letting Beau Ryan go isn't the end of the world. He had a decent year and id like him here, but the fact is we have a host of wingers with Koroibete, Nofolomu, Grant and maybe Utai (who is good value for his price). Plus if absolutely desperate our premier league wingers can do a job. Lets put this frank, its only wingers, you don't need 5 of them in a first grade squad.

Also keep in mind Ryan wanted a 3 year deal, meaning wed be signing him to be playing until he was 30\. There aren't many wingers who are good enough to still be going well at 30…. look at the impact someone like Luke Burt (A similar to Ryan player) has had in his last few years.

The fact is we have a host of wingers and Koroibete and Nofolomu need to be the priorities. The other fact is Ryan could only really hinder these two... particularly with a three year contract. You only need two wingers on the field and despite what others think, Ryan isn't good enough to be shifted into centre. Sheens has to bite the bullet and only pick 2 wingers and he's done that.

I should also note, while Moltzen and Ayshford were very poor this year, we really don't have depth in those positions so while Ryan does deserve to stay over them, I can actually see the logic in what Sheens is doing.

While I love Ryan and like his commitment, I fail to see this loss ever coming back to bite us. Ryan had a good year, but it wasn't as "amazing" as some people make out.
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@dermo said:
@milford_magic said:
Letting Beau Ryan go isn't the end of the world. He had a decent year and id like him here, but the fact is we have a host of wingers with Koroibete, Nofolomu, Grant and maybe Utai (who is good value for his price). Plus if absolutely desperate our premier league wingers can do a job. Lets put this frank, its only wingers, you don't need 5 of them in a first grade squad.

Also keep in mind Ryan wanted a 3 year deal, meaning wed be signing him to be playing until he was 30\. There aren't many wingers who are good enough to still be going well at 30…. look at the impact someone like Luke Burt (A similar to Ryan player) has had in his last few years.

The fact is we have a host of wingers and Koroibete and Nofolomu need to be the priorities. The other fact is Ryan could only really hinder these two... particularly with a three year contract. You only need two wingers on the field and despite what others think, Ryan isn't good enough to be shifted into centre. Sheens has to bite the bullet and only pick 2 wingers and he's done that.

I should also note, while Moltzen and Ayshford were very poor this year, we really don't have depth in those positions so while Ryan does deserve to stay over them, I can actually see the logic in what Sheens is doing.

While I love Ryan and like his commitment, I fail to see this loss ever coming back to bite us. Ryan had a good year, but it wasn't as "amazing" as some people make out.

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lol ath the sharks they showld change there name to the cronulla cougars or something how many panthers and tigers do they want in there team?

ryan
heino
gibs
fifita
morris

gordon
lewis
graham
pomeroy
wright
 
@happy tiger said:
@kh_canada said:
Don't get your hopes up just yet, Beau may just pull a 'Moltzen'.

I'm hoping Moltzen pulls a Moltzen
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It's been a long 17 pages to get through, but this gets the "Best and Fairest" quote for the thread. Congratulations happy!!!
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@smeghead said:
I respect everything that these two guys put out there every week in terms of effort, pride etc.

However if they were both to leave and be replaced by younger and/or cheaper versions of themselves who are on the upward arc of their career I have no issue with that.
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I'm with you 100 per cent there, we have to look after our young batch if not we will be complaining why players like Korribete and co. are playing for rival clubs .
But if we resign someone like Tuquiri then they are contradicting themselves , intresting times ahead .
Life is never dull supporting the Tigers :sign:
 
@tiger182 said:
lol ath the sharks they showld change there name to the cronulla cougars or something how many panthers and tigers do they want in there team?

ryan
heino
gibs
fifita
morris

gordon
lewis
graham
pomeroy
wright
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Don't forget Degois,and Collis and Flananghan before them
 
Further evidence for reading from Tuesday's SMH.

Sea Eagles in hunt for new prop as merry-go-round fires up
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Expected to move … Manly prop Brent Kite. Photo: Getty Images
THE expected departures of Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to Cronulla could pave the way for Manly prop Brent Kite to join Wests Tigers next season.

While all parties were yesterday denying speculation of the NRL's latest player merry-go-round, the Herald was told that player agents have been advised that the Sea Eagles are looking for a new prop next season.

The Sharks' signing of Ryan and Heighington is also expected to result in the club releasing Kiwis international Jeremy Smith to join Newcastle next season. Liam Fulton and Lote Tuqiri are also expected to re-sign with the Tigers.

Both Manly and Wests Tigers are rumoured to have salary cap problems, with NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert reportedly refusing to register Sea Eagles fullback Brett Stewart's new contract until the club resolves the problem.

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A Manly official told the Herald that Kite was under contract next season, while the Sharks denied they had yet signed Ryan or Heighington.

However, it is understood that deals with both Tigers players are close to being finalised - much to the frustration of disappointed teammates, who were unhappy last year that the club released Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita to make way for the signing of Adam Blair.

Captain and hooker Robbie Farah has also been linked to Parramatta but he is expected to remain at the Tigers for next season at least.

Speculation was rife a year ago about Ryan and Heighington joining Penrith this season but both stayed with the Tigers.

Heighington, now the English representative lock, was on contract with the Tigers until the end of the next season but the club is understood to have baulked at offering him an extension, given the failure of the squad to reach the finals this year.

Heighington was approached about a three-year deal with Cronulla, which he has clearly found difficult to ignore given his future at the Tigers was clouded.

Ryan's impending departure is peculiar given his announcement on The Footy Show during the season that he had agreed to a new deal with the Tigers. Yet that deal was never formalised, and with Heighington's future in the air, it appears certain it will not be.

Heighington and Ryan are good friends and are both popular members of the Tigers, which means the playing group will be hit hard by the departures, a year after Gibbs and Fifita left for Cronulla.

Ryan's manager Wayne Beavis maintained he had signed ''no contract with Wests Tigers'', but that does appear to be a formality.

The Tigers are expected to announce that Tuqiri has agreed to a new deal with the club, which will ensure that his NRL career does not end with a broken arm.

Fulton is also believed to be close to finalising a new deal to remain at the Tigers beyond next season.
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This was in the Telegraph - 201 games and no send off.. Just a kick in the arse..

Its pretty awful treatment - I wouldnt like to leave for holidays at the end of the year and then basically find out that I shouldnt come back into the office (except to pick up my stuff).

The worse thing is that all these contract changes havent improved the team's position and so all this crap hasnt even met the objective.

Young players coming up are all good (i.e. Koro), but how old is Lote? And how many positions did Beau fill for us? - would prefer him off the bench (rather than Moltzen - which used to be his job a couple of years ago).
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"In fact, Heighington's impending loss is downright gut-wrenching.

The 201-game veteran understands a contract extension beyond 2013 is not available at the Tigers, hence the opportunity to forego his final year for a longer-term deal elsewhere.

But what he can't comprehend is why the scenario wasn't cleared up in time for the round 26 fixture against the Melbourne Storm at Leichhardt Oval.

It will now be his final game at the club's spiritual den - an occasion that surely warranted a farewell befitting the club's first and only double centurion."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/cronulla-sharks-bite-chunks-out-of-west-tigers-playlist/story-e6frexrr-1226476115729
 
@Demonborger said:
Beau is 28 next year and wants a 3 year deal and as good a club man as he is probably won't be a starting winger after maybe the first year. His passion would be missed greatly however. Problem is with our operation, it seems they don't have a plan in place, this is way too ad hoc.
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ad hoc is the word..

so many backflips, I thought i was at the diving.

Beau had his best year in ages and maybe part of that is relative to the results or other players performances.
However, they cant just punt people when someone who might be a bit better comes up. (Can they?)
But many other players had shockers of a year and thats what gets me - why not punt some of them?

Plus, Gibbs had a good year at the sharks - so I dont have too much confidence in the 'puppet master' who is pulling all the strings (and then letting them go).
 
@1/4 chicken said:
I can wear both leaving,but retaining Lote is a joke .
i just hope we have two better replacements .
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Agree. I hope lote is only on a 1 year deal and is on less money than what beau would have been on.
 
@1/4 chicken said:
I can wear both leaving,but retaining Lote is a joke .
i just hope we have two better replacements .
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Lote over Ryan is one of the dumbest decisions I have heard in a long time.

I can handle both Ryan and Heighno leaving although they have been great for the club and I think we could have retained them however retaining Lote and letting both of those players go when we don't have to sign Lote period is just dumb.
 
It's pretty simple, Ryan wanted a 3 year deal Lote 1 year…. We have Nofo & Koro coming through who will both be cheaper and better then both above players however you need some experience for 1 year while the young blokes get a handle on first grade. Understandably Beau wants a longer deal as he will be 30 once it's up, would u want a 30 year old Ryan or a 20 year old Koro ?? Lote is a 1 year insurance policy.

It makes perfect sense to me.
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