OFFICIAL Wests Tigers Unite: Call to Arms

[Magpie_Magic]

Of course it’s a furphy ! But that’s not why people are upset . You still don’t get it ?
They’re upset because there’s dinosaurs in positions of power with this on thier brain , one of of which sits on the WTs board , so he’s not some debenture turning up to HBG meetings .
This whole pathway of thought is a massive dead end , and it’s a Freudian slip and insight into how this guy burgess, and others , hold onto antiquated, toxic ideologies at thier core .
Who the f**k thinks like this in 2024? Enough to mention it to a Balmain board member ? What’s the point in tjinking it let alone saying it .
It’s messed up on a million different levels . And it’s an insight into your bias that you don’t see what the issue is …

Which means that the way the issues are handled is based on subjective perceptions.

 

[Snidest 0]

You associated Parramatta's governance failures, illegalities re their salary cap issues with HBG.......hence your proposition to present the petition to Liquor and Gaming and the minister of Gaming.

What's the petition questioning?

Illegalities re structure?

Unconstitutional behaviour and compliance?

What is the purpose of the petition? Lack of compliance re governance?

What is implied or accused that you would ask the minister and Liquor and Gaming to act on?

Yes... that is what is being alleged by their fellow Directors

 

[Lestronge]

Which means that the way the issues are handled is based on subjective perceptions.

What ? Most issues are handled on the basis of subjective perceptions .
But when you’ve got a guy making decisions , whose motives are questioned how can anyone trust his decision making .

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I could be wrong,
But I don't feel anyone takes issue with the Governance of the HBG, Or who does it....
It's when the clusterf*ck spills into the WT's boardroom and those same particular incompetent Board members are serving on both Boards - It's not working.

Put Football People on the Football Club board, Let them get the job done
and have them report back to you... Intervene only if it goes bad.
It 'Should' be that easy.

Don't disagree with your post.

But there has been all manner of different people, football people, former premiership etc.

The majority of the board was different when Wests took majority ownership.......most chairs were former Balmain fans so it's a little more complex.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I agree that it should be their members, but there is cross over. I think Rick is following up on members to try to get the board composition changed.

The directors have a fuciary duty to their members and community, which they are ignoring. You can see that here https://www.sport.nsw.gov.au/running-your-club/club-governance/duty-of-care

They are definitely in breach of a, b and c. So I'd say NSW liqour and gaming commission would be very interested in the outcomes of the petition.

That's a serious charge.

Could you substantiate it?

 

[hammertime]

That's a serious charge.

Could you substantiate it?

My personal opinion based on what we know so far. That's what a forum is for. Opinions and discussion. A review would help substantiate any of this.

 

[Lestronge]

Don't disagree with your post.

But there has been all manner of different people, football people, former premiership etc.

The majority of the board was different when Wets took majority ownership.......most chairs were former Balmain fans so it's a little more complex.

Isn’t that just an olive branch ?
And 25 years later how is that even a thing you’re talking about .
It’s only complex if you view things as if it’s 1999ie. Wests vs Balmain.
But here’s the other little tidbit . Most people who are going to have the ability to be chair , are people of certain educations and wealth and power . And statistically speaking those people will be found closer to the city centre of the city they live in . So it stands to reason that the inner city club would be the one that would be able to offer a wider range of people to pick from .
That’s not to say that there arnt just as good candidates from out west , but that’s a truism I would think . A resource to tap into .
(Relax everyone , it’s not an anti west thing . Just stating the facts . Like the Bondi/ Randwick area would have even more access to this resource than Balmain .)

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Isn’t that just an olive branch ?
And 25 years later how is that even a thing you’re talking about .
It’s only complex if you view things as if it’s 1999ie. Wests vs Balmain.
But here’s the other little tidbit . Most people who are going to have the ability to be chair , are people of certain educations and wealth and power . And statistically speaking those people will be found closer to the city centre of the city they live in . So it stands to reason that the inner city club would be the one that would be able to offer a wider range of people to pick from .
That’s not to say that there arnt just as good candidates from out west , but that’s a truism I would think . A resource to tap into .
(Relax everyone , it’s not an anti west thing . Just stating the facts . Like the Bondi/ Randwick area would have even more access to this resource than Balmain .)

But Go grew up in Rooty Hill?

And Wests are also inner city.

Point is 3 of the 4 chairs commissioned whilst WA/HBG had ownership were former Balmain fans possessing supposedly solid formal qualifications and business acumen showing the owners didn't appoint from a narrow former Magpies base and most of the issues occurred under their chairmanship.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Signed. Thanks to those involved for your efforts. Hopefully the toxic power culture can be cut lose and the wests tigers can move forward as a united powerhouse.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

What ? Most issues are handled on the basis of subjective perceptions .
But when you’ve got a guy making decisions , whose motives are questioned how can anyone trust his decision making .

Still subjective.

But the whole board was questioned.....including Wayde by @hammertime previously so it's coming across as a anti former Magpies thing.

 

[hammertime]

Isn’t that just an olive branch ?
And 25 years later how is that even a thing you’re talking about .
It’s only complex if you view things as if it’s 1999ie. Wests vs Balmain.
But here’s the other little tidbit . Most people who are going to have the ability to be chair , are people of certain educations and wealth and power . And statistically speaking those people will be found closer to the city centre of the city they live in . So it stands to reason that the inner city club would be the one that would be able to offer a wider range of people to pick from .
That’s not to say that there arnt just as good candidates from out west , but that’s a truism I would think . A resource to tap into .
(Relax everyone , it’s not an anti west thing . Just stating the facts . Like the Bondi/ Randwick area would have even more access to this resource than Balmain .)

We definitely need at least 1 strong businessman from the west on there. The panthers have it and would add serious value to the board.

 

[Lestronge]

But Go grew up in Rooty Hill?

And Wests are also inner city.

Point is 3 of the 4 chairs commissioned whilst WA/HBG had ownership were former Balmain fans possing supposedly solid formal qualifications and business acumen showing the owners didn't appoint from a narrow former Magpies base and most of the issues occurred under their chairmanship.

I literally just said that . It’s not about where they grew up , it’s about their multi million dollar house over looking Sydney harbour in hunters hill or Balmain , or whatever . Like i said a resource to tap into . I knew you’d do that , make it an east vs west thing , as a badge of honour thing . As if it’s relevant .
And as a general rule , most people under the age of 45-50 , if they do reference wests magpies at all , would make the association with Cambo , not Ashfield .
So that’s why I was referencing that .
The chairman is not a hands on role though ! I believe The fedora made it about himself , and changed the perception of that .
The issue from what I understand as a club is ideas would be put towards the old board , and members of that board would politic for thier own self interest , rather than take the football idea being implemented by the football person .
Former mediocre musicians would think they knew better . And that’s a huge problem…: hence the need for the first review .

 

[hammertime]

Still subjective.

But the whole board was questioned.....including Wayde by @hammertime previously so it's coming across as a anti former Magpies thing.

Huh? Any of my questioning of the whole board would have been before we knew about who was driving in the right direction. The good thing is we know now who wants to fix it and who has a level of self interest.

None of this it anti wests. Can you quit with that?!!? It's incredibly frustrating and you're misreading and twisting everything.

I have never, ever said anything anti wests. I have a crack at balmain too. I do not agree with anyone who still talks about this as wests or balmain, like yourself.

 

[batboy]

Don't disagree with your post.

But there has been all manner of different people, football people, former premiership etc.

The majority of the board was different when Wests took majority ownership.......most chairs were former Balmain fans so it's a little more complex.

Not really,
Most of those appointments you speak of have been and are continued to be made by HBG / Wests Ashfield - outside the ones that were imposed.

Do we know what the real reason Wayde, Andreachhio and Gilbert have been ousted is?

 

[Lestronge]

Not really,
Most of those appointments you speak of have been and are continued to be made by HBG / Wests Ashfield - outside the ones that were imposed.

Do we know what the real reason Wayde, Andreachhio and Gilbert have been ousted is?

It can’t be because someone called someone’s wife “darl” or an argument that had one director call another a “suck” or whatever . I mean that’s not even written warning worthy let alone lose your job worthy .
There was some reference to sexual misconduct though. I think it was on the westslife interview .

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Huh? Any of my questioning of the whole board would have been before we knew about who was driving in the right direction. The good thing is we know now who wants to fix it and who has a level of self interest.

None of this it anti wests. Can you quit with that?!!? It's incredibly frustrating and you're misreading and twisting everything.

I have never, ever said anything anti wests. I have a crack at balmain too. I do not agree with anyone who still talks about this as wests or balmain, like yourself.

Ain't true,

You mocked Wayde last year here and just equated the whole board minus Gilbert and Lee as unsuitable.....till now when it lines up with your agenda.

Driving in the right direction is a subjective opinion .

 

[Merlot]

much more trash n innuendo gets thrown up here then in the media,im totally at a loss on what is truth anymore ,dont care either,may the strongest survive.Rugby league im guessing will still be alive n well when the most of us ,as of here n now are dearly departed

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Not really,
Most of those appointments you speak of have been and are continued to be made by HBG / Wests Ashfield - outside the ones that were imposed.

Do we know what the real reason Wayde, Andreachhio and Gilbert have been ousted is?

Point is the club was failing under those chairs.....a day different directors unaffiliated with the magpies or WA.

If ine doesn't like Burgess that's fine.

But can't blame everything on him.

 

[hammertime]

Ain't true,

You mocked Wayde last year here and just equated the whole board minus Gilbert and Lee as unsuitable.....till now when it lines up with your agenda.

Yes. That is exactly what I said. I beliveve they do not have the right experience to run the club, the difference is that these guys are smart and moralistic enough to realise it and want to implement the review. Which is the information we have now. Do you understand now? Its not an agenda. I'm not backing away from that.

David Gilbert is the exception. He's very strong.

I have to say, I was impressed with how Rick spoke on the podcast.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I literally just said that . It’s not about where they grew up , it’s about their multi million dollar house over looking Sydney harbour in hunters hill or Balmain , or whatever . Like i said a resource to tap into . I knew you’d do that , make it an east vs west thing , as a badge of honour thing . As if it’s relevant .
And as a general rule , most people under the age of 45-50 , if they do reference wests magpies at all , would make the association with Cambo , not Ashfield .
So that’s why I was referencing that .
The chairman is not a hands on role though ! I believe The fedora made it about himself , and changed the perception of that .
The issue from what I understand as a club is ideas would be put towards the old board , and members of that board would politic for thier own self interest , rather than take the football idea being implemented by the football person .
Former mediocre musicians would think they knew better . And that’s a huge problem…: hence the need for the first review .

Really?

What evidence do you have of this?

Could you perhaps name instances or even directions the club took because of this?