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boonboon

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The issue isn't Potter or Taylor its the squad we have this year. Wayne Bennett would have them 16th (like he did with Knights for most of the last year).

We came 13th last year and then offloaded 8 FG in Blair, Gavet, Fulton, Austin, Patterson, Anasta, Koroibete, Thompson with over 1000 FG games between them and replaced them with Kevin Naquiama and under 20s.

We have been competitive in almost every game this year whereas last year we were flogged in nearly every loss.

JT has worked miracles to make us competitive and we are probabaly 2 players short of competing for the top 8 when in reality we were 10 players off it last year under Potter.

Our salary cap is fecked and even when it isn't we can't compete based on Third party payments.

We have the worst facilities in the comp and yet somehow JT has managed to take us from the most injured team in the comp to one of the least.

JT is doing a great job with what he has
 
"JT has worked miricles"

dont insult the fans by saying the coach has worked miricles when we are coming last. No one is going to buy that. We know the roster is not top 8 however it does include 2 origin players, Kiwi International and some of the best kids in the league.

I think all people expected were small improvements on the field as the season progressed. Individuals improving due to good coaching. There has been little evidence of either to date. It is too early to write him off but to say he has worked miricles is basically insulting the fans. Its garbage and you know it.

If he had worked miracle we would be in the Top 4\. But no according to you JT has worked miracles to achieve what no other coach at WT has acheived and that is to be in last place. Check out our roster in 2002, 2003, it was horrendous yt we avoided the spoon both years.

Remmeber Taylor was very bullish pre season about how he would immediately improve the defence. So even by his own expectations he is not delivering.
 
This will go well,,,

I expected them not to turn it up and they didn't…
 
I like our squad, with a decent coach who could get them to play as a strong unit and near their potential we could be a lower 8 team.
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What i expect though is for his supporters to be as stubborn as him and just flat out refuse he is responsible for this mess.
 
His supporters will try anything in the book.

It is desperate times for them so some go missing (southern tiger- this bloke gave Potter a hiding for 2 years but you dont here from him now after singing taylors praises relentlessly for the first 2 months.

Others say JT has worked miracles at the place to have us this competitive in last place. Soon they will be telling us it was taylors plan to come last all along and it is for the better.

it is actually quite amusing. Its like Taylor himself the supporters adopt the same spin. Rather then say he needs to coach better and get more out of the group, they go through the list of excuses. Or they create spin to say despite running last we are improving.
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
I like our squad, with a decent coach who could get them to play as a strong unit and near their potential we could be a lower 8 team.
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What i expect though is for his supporters to be as stubborn as him and just flat out refuse he is responsible for this mess.
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Exactly. I think with a decent coach we would have had a lot better season. JT has been terrible.
 
I rated the squad 13th or worse so bottom 4 is what i expected. But it is not like you have no bullets to fire. Tedesco, Simona, Moses, Brooks, Farah, Woods, Taupau - its the nucleaus of a pretty good side.

Even though i did not expect much this year, i didnt expect to be running outright last with 6 rounds to go.
 
Wow the Threads just keep getting more comical trying to Defend what can't be defend able.

Jason Taylor can't Coach hasn't got game plans to suit the players we have and is also not willing to change tactics throughout a game when things a clearly not working .
He's to good for his own stubbornness.
 
Some on here said the Broncos were going to out 60 on us… So we did well then!!!

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@foreveratiger said:
Wow the Threads just keep getting more comical trying to Defend what can't be defend able.

Jason Taylor can't Coach hasn't got game plans to suit the players we have and is also not willing to change tactics throughout a game when things a clearly not working .
He's to good for his own stubbornness.
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Exactly. Just stop defending the guy now. Its over. We are dead last and JT is the worst coach we have ever had.
 
@Boonboon2 said:
The issue isn't Potter or Taylor its the squad we have this year. Wayne Bennett would have them 16th (like he did with Knights for most of the last year).

We came 13th last year and then offloaded 8 FG in Blair, Gavet, Fulton, Austin, Patterson, Anasta, Koroibete, Thompson with over 1000 FG games between them and replaced them with Kevin Naquiama and under 20s.

We have been competitive in almost every game this year whereas last year we were flogged in nearly every loss.

JT has worked miracles to make us competitive and we are probabaly 2 players short of competing for the top 8 when in reality we were 10 players off it last year under Potter.

Our salary cap is fecked and even when it isn't we can't compete based on Third party payments.

We have the worst facilities in the comp and yet somehow JT has managed to take us from the most injured team in the comp to one of the least.

JT is doing a great job with what he has
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You don't really mean any of that. If you do maybe see a doctor.
 
@Boonboon2 said:
The issue isn't Potter or Taylor its the squad we have this year. Wayne Bennett would have them 16th (like he did with Knights for most of the last year).

We came 13th last year and then offloaded 8 FG in Blair, Gavet, Fulton, Austin, Patterson, Anasta, Koroibete, Thompson with over 1000 FG games between them and replaced them with Kevin Naquiama and under 20s.

We have been competitive in almost every game this year whereas last year we were flogged in nearly every loss.

JT has worked miracles to make us competitive and we are probabaly 2 players short of competing for the top 8 when in reality we were 10 players off it last year under Potter.

Our salary cap is fecked and even when it isn't we can't compete based on Third party payments.

We have the worst facilities in the comp and yet somehow JT has managed to take us from the most injured team in the comp to one of the least.

JT is doing a great job with what he has
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Paragraphs 1..2..5..6 are on the money somewhat. ..The rest is crap
 
@Eddie said:
His supporters will try anything in the book.

It is desperate times for them so some go missing (southern tiger- this bloke gave Potter a hiding for 2 years but you dont here from him now after singing taylors praises relentlessly for the first 2 months.

Others say JT has worked miracles at the place to have us this competitive in last place. Soon they will be telling us it was taylors plan to come last all along and it is for the better.

it is actually quite amusing. Its like Taylor himself the supporters adopt the same spin. Rather then say he needs to coach better and get more out of the group, they go through the list of excuses. Or they create spin to say despite running last we are improving.
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There is a WTS FB group where the club invited one of the groups admin to training and a.pre game and post game in coaches box and in the sheds.
This bloke now just does.nothing but sing his new best buds praises….He doesn't realize he's been used as a cheap form of PR by the club
 
I enjoyed the game, the 10 minutes where we actually played at least lol. We were never going to win, and being 26-0 down at half time this time last year, with a better squad, meant 50+ margin.

I'm not ready to sing JTs praises however, because for a few weeks there we played with 0 positive intent, but we have a mix of first graders, now cup "plodders" and u20s kids and they really didn't do any worse than our premiership favourites of 2012 would have today. On that note, Blair continued being the opposition's man of the match, just like when he played for us lol.
 
Interesting that the OP uses the following players as losses:
Koroibete 1 game
Fulton 6 games (knocked out in at least half)
Patterson 9 games (couple on the wing/centre)
Gavet 12 games (all from the bench)
Anasta 13 games

Are we really missing their input from last year?

Austin, Blair and Thompson are all definite misses but the rest either didn't play enough games to have any real impact or were shit anyway when they played.
Just keep rolling out the excuses for JT.

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@Boonboon2 said:
The issue isn't Potter or Taylor its the squad we have this year. Wayne Bennett would have them 16th (like he did with Knights for most of the last year).

We came 13th last year and then offloaded 8 FG in Blair, Gavet, Fulton, Austin, Patterson, Anasta, Koroibete, Thompson with over 1000 FG games between them and replaced them with Kevin Naquiama and under 20s.

We have been competitive in almost every game this year whereas last year we were flogged in nearly every loss.

JT has worked miracles to make us competitive and we are probabaly 2 players short of competing for the top 8 when in reality we were 10 players off it last year under Potter.

Our salary cap is fecked and even when it isn't we can't compete based on Third party payments.

We have the worst facilities in the comp and yet somehow JT has managed to take us from the most injured team in the comp to one of the least.

JT is doing a great job with what he has
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Competive in most games ?????
We gave away our customary Two SOFT tries early early in the game,
we still can't defend for any length of time.
Our propensity for forward passes is getting legendary. ( even though we scored off one of the worst ones today, ) that would please all who think that the refs just hate us

We had patches of good stuff today, but that's Wests Tigers, patchy at best, but at least they had a go for parts of the game
The kids were a bit more effective today in in attack, but still missed 11 tackles between them (brooks 4, Moses 7
But Nothing's changed, no matter what type of mind bending drugs we take, the fact remains.
We are a soft team
A fact that I hope is not emphasised too much in the next six or so weeks
The only miracle that we have seen is that he's still here.
 
@Eddie said:
His supporters will try anything in the book.

It is desperate times for them so some go missing (southern tiger- this bloke gave Potter a hiding for 2 years but you dont here from him now after singing taylors praises relentlessly for the first 2 months.

Others say JT has worked miracles at the place to have us this competitive in last place. Soon they will be telling us it was taylors plan to come last all along and it is for the better.

it is actually quite amusing. Its like Taylor himself the supporters adopt the same spin. Rather then say he needs to coach better and get more out of the group, they go through the list of excuses. Or they create spin to say despite running last we are improving.
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Hey Eddie, stevetiger et al - we are all on the same side here.

We don't need to crucify people for their opinions. Isn't that what a Forum is for?
 
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