Big name player in trouble

@ghost said:
@jirskyr said:
Or even read through a few of these:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Drunken-debacles/2005/05/27/1117129898579.html

Well said re ur post…peeps are getting mightly excited over very little.

Lest we forget what our very own Toddy Payten did.

And there are some doozies in that list.

I play in a supercoach comp called the I Shat in Schlossies Shoe Shield.

Our end of year parties should not be on video!

What has Payten got to do with this? He was publicly shamed and dealt with by the Police for what he did. Based on some your comments in this thread I think we can safely assume that your moral standards are quite low which is nothing to brag about.
 
jirskyr, you make some pretty good points mate. I agree, I don't think it's as bad as some other incidents. Lui, Lodge, Packer, Jennings, Inglis, SKD etc… the list goes on. Domestic Violence is far worse than being absolutely disgusting. But I personally think those guys should be rubbed out of the game entirely if found guilty too. The NRL is a bit weak in that regard.

But I tend to think about it as a normal job. If I did that and my boss saw it on a video, you could be damn sure I would be vilified and out of a job too. Especially if that job is in the upper-echelons of management and you were getting paid the big $'s

Whether pierce realizes it or not, he is probably in the top 30 in terms of standing in the game. Halfbacks is the most important position in a team and he is the NSW half. With that comes a massive paycheck and responsibility. While the majority of the paycheck is based on his playing ability, some has to be based on him not damaging the clubs (or the NRLs) reputation.

You can be sure that it's done that. If uncle Nick doesn't take action, I'm sure the sponsors would be screaming for it. Steggles certainly can't use him in any promos with live chickens... god knows what he'll do!
 
@willow said:
@ghost said:
@jirskyr said:
Or even read through a few of these:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Drunken-debacles/2005/05/27/1117129898579.html

Well said re ur post…peeps are getting mightly excited over very little.

Lest we forget what our very own Toddy Payten did.

And there are some doozies in that list.

I play in a supercoach comp called the I Shat in Schlossies Shoe Shield.

Our end of year parties should not be on video!

What has Payten got to do with this? He was publicly shamed and dealt with by the Police for what he did. Based on some your comments in this thread I think we can safely assume that your moral standards are quite low which is nothing to brag about.

Yep. Payten is hardly at the same level. Show me a bloke who hasn't had a leak in public and I'll show you a liar.

He just picked a very bad spot to do so.
 
I feel sorry for them when they get penalised so much for just being stupid on the grog when they have not really hurt anyone. It should have been kept under wraps. Don't his friends want to protect him?
 
@willow said:
I think we can safely assume that your moral standards are quite low which is nothing to brag about.

Wow….when do I get cuffed Mr 2 cent piece???

My moral standards??Well i dont cuff anyone,oh hang on yes I do.

Seems we do have something in common.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I feel sorry for them when they get penalised so much for just being stupid on the grog when they have not really hurt anyone. It should have been kept under wraps. Don't his friends want to protect him?

Agreed,if he had bashed someone or a gal or something like that fair call but for being a dill on the soup??As far as I can see he hasnt broken any laws at all.

The Johhny Do-gooders are taking over the building.

When did we become so judgy???

Arent we renowned for our larrikan spirit,sense of fun.

Doesnt look like it.
 
The bottom line he has got his mug on the front page and the leading TV news story on most stations in the land for all the wrong reason. To make matters worse he is a second time offender.

The NRL and Chooks brand name takes another massive hit because a player puts himself in a really bad situation. There has to be consequences for his actions, a message has to be sent out there to all the players the game doesn't tolerate this sort of behaviour.

Anyway I guess he will cop a hefty fine,some community work,some self help program and a month on the side line and all will be forgotten once the season is up and running
 
What's got me tricked in all of this is the common thread of the Roosters.

People think that we're a basket case of a club but how many times is it going to happen at the Roosters?

Pearce / Kenny-Dowell / Carney / Friend and let's add Ferguson and to a degree Jennings into the mix, how about someone calls the Rooster's culture into question!

Apologies I forgot that Third Party Agreements cover off a multitude of sins….
 
Good point RR.What a bunch!!

Was Nate Myles at the Roosters when he went a pooping too?

Thats quite a line up!
 
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/rooster-nate-myless-night-of-shame/story-e6frfgf6-1225747116794

Yes he was!!
 
There has been a culture change in the media, now it is often women being commentators, reporters etc. that a lot of guys are not used to. I prefer guys commentating on male games and females on female games in all sports. They should not be sending females in male dressing rooms, surely they can stay outside the door. Do we see males reporters going into female dressing rooms? If the present mix-mix continues then the males should be professional in their attitude to fellow professionals when being interviewed etc but both male sportsmen and female commentators should not be in this position. A female reporter could easily give the wrong signal if they admire a real hunk almost nude. But the guy would not be complaining like the females complain.
 
When I started getting the twitter updates and texts prior to the footage coming out, I was almost expecting some sort of beastiality show.

What I saw instead was a goose off his head, unable to handle his drink, having a pretend root with a fluffy white dog.

Hardly the crime of the century, and hardly up there with some of the things other players have gotten up to in the past (drug dealing & assault both come to mind) and who are still running around playing the game.

Yeah Mitch is an A Grade goose, and yeah he's a repeat offender when he is on the sauce, and yeah he plays for a club we all hate. But in all seriousness, he wont be sacked, and his career will most certaintly not be over as a result of his puppy fetish.

We live in the age of sensationalism, where confected outrage and click-bait rule what is reported on and how, and this is a prime example of that.
 
@supercoach said:
The bottom line he has got his mug on the front page and the leading TV news story on most stations in the land for all the wrong reason. To make matters worse he is a second time offender.

The NRL and Chooks brand name takes another massive hit because a player puts himself in a really bad situation. There has to be consequences for his actions, a message has to be sent out there to all the players the game doesn't tolerate this sort of behaviour.

Anyway I guess he will cop a hefty fine,some community work,some self help program and a month on the side line and all will be forgotten once the season is up and running

A hefty fine is not much of a sacrifice for most top first grade players but a month on the sideline is a big sacrifice for a club like the Roosters. My guess is that only the former will result.
 
@jirskyr said:
I met Jr Jr in The Cross, on a night on the tiles, many moons ago… he would have been about 18 pr 19\. I was well dosed but he was completely hammered, totally glazed look in his eyes. That being said, he didn't do or say anything inappropriate, he was happy and friendly enough for that short time.

What he did this time, I don't think it's that big a deal. People are outraged basically because he got caught, because these incidents are happening all the time all across the country. I think it's hypocritical in this age of the smart phone to pulverise individuals just because they are famous, when most of these drunken incidents aren't even against the law. The internet is full of this stuff from less famous people.

So by all means be outraged if you are, but direct your energy towards the problem of alcohol abuse in young people, rather than try and fix everything by crucifying Pearce for being loose on the booze. I feel the penalty they are discussing is about right, not just for abusing the dog and trying to abuse the young lady, but for the sheer stupidity of his actions.

Because that is what this is half about - about the clear stupidity, verging on personal troubles, of Mitchell Pearce. Contrast this with Matt Lodge - he's already had his contract torn up, but Lodge was already on domestic violence charges before his US rampage. Nobody is taking the moral high-ground against Lodge, because that kid is clearly messed up, needs mental health support. Mitchell Pearce, well maybe he needs psychological help too, but at this stage it just looks like normal stupidity.

You should get in trouble for stupidity because you are a representative of your sport and your club, they pay your wages, and your actions hurt the money-making potential of these institutions. You should be financially penalised for bringing on the media storm. You should be heavily penalised for repeatedly causing trouble in a business that is damaged by such trouble.

But I want to ensure there is appropriate perspective, including running off a few names of players who are still playing - Lui, SKD, Inglis, Greg Bird. You tell me Pearce has done anything even close to physically abusing his partner - he's been a pest on at least two occasions, but so far as I am aware he never struck a woman.

Pearce is about halfway along the Todd Carney path, of getting the sack for being a repeated idiot. If Politis really does alter his contract, then the Roosters are positioning themselves to part ways. Don't doubt for a minute though that if Roosters ever do sack Pearce, another club will be ready to counsel him then sign him right up.

On Todd Carney, that guy has the longest rap sheet of any footballer I ever heard of. Not as serious as some like John Elias or Craig Field, but consistently and endlessly stupid. That will ultimately get you fired as well. Todd Carney had a restraining order taken out against him by the town of Goulburn, don't think Jr Jr is anywhere like that yet. And I can tell you for a fact that Carney's list of transgressions was far longer than the media ever knew about.

Some really good points there Jirskyr. As unacceptable and stupid as Pearce's actions were, I don't put them anywhere near into the same category as glassing and other acts of violence against women.
 
@ghost said:
@Byron Bay Fan said:
I feel sorry for them when they get penalised so much for just being stupid on the grog when they have not really hurt anyone. It should have been kept under wraps. Don't his friends want to protect him?

Agreed,if he had bashed someone or a gal or something like that fair call but for being a dill on the soup??As far as I can see he hasnt broken any laws at all.

The Johhny Do-gooders are taking over the building.

When did we become so judgy???

Arent we renowned for our larrikan spirit,sense of fun.

Doesnt look like it.

I can answer for me, but not others.

As soon as someone's "fun" physically, emotionally or psychologically has a detrimental effect on others then I have an issue with it.

I don't think my view is unreasonable.

And I've done stupid things on the grog before, but I feel genuine remorse for the poor people who had to put up with that stupidity. I don't choose to laugh off my mistakes and not improve my behaviour. It is possible to get wasted and have a good time without harassing people, urinating on yourself or the property of others or trying to hump a dog. If that's too much for some people maybe they need rehab, nor footy.
 
Look no doubt the media are grabbing this at every angle and that is all that is being talked about on every Radio Station .

Matty John's summed it up when he said :
"There's embarrassment, there's pain, there's all those obvious things but the greatest hurt is what it does to your family… the pain that you see it causes them, that's just unbelievable," said Matty.

Mitchell needs to admit he needs help , if he can't admit that there was nothing wrong with what his done ? then you have no chance of rectifying yourself and changing to become a better man .

You want to get the big bucks that the NRL players offer, they obviously have to know that there is a price that comes with it.......you have a responsibility to your Club , Sponsors , Family , fans to conduct yourself in a Professional manner , whether you agree with it or not.
There is a Cultural issue within the NRL players in Alcohol , Drugs , Performance enhancing and the NRL have one hell of a battle getting on top of this .

The sad thing is your own mates who you might think are ? will sell you out for a dollar in a blink of an eye.

Here's Matty Johns and MG thoughts

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2016/1/whats-next-for-mitchell-pearce/
 
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