Coach 2017????

[Spartan117]

1 more season and possibly an extension.

We dont have the cattle and the spine is young.

I still think we over achieved this year as a some the bigger clubs imploded i.e. Manly, Souths, Dragons, Eels (Points)

We need to stop the "Gve Up" Culture that sees the Tigers lose badly. Canberra X2, Dogs, Penrith and dont start me on dropping the game against the Knights

 

[Eddie]

I can understand if you think that Jason Taylor deserves another year, seeing as our position on the ladder is improved from last year. But, I have serious misgivings about his ability as a coach, and on balance I think it would be better if we replaced him now.

His part in the RF affair did him no credit. He came across as a dictator, not a leader, and definitely not a manager of a team. One of his main jobs was to create harmony in the group and get the best out of all the players in the squad. He ran a personal vendetta against RF and drove him out of the club. In return for what? 200K and the proof to everybody else that he was boss. This is what the club will take into its next contract negotiations with Moses, Brooks, Tedesco, Woods and so on, who have had to watch a great player be put down and be treated with no dignity or loyalty. They can be expect to be treated in the same way if they displease the coach in some way.

It is seasons end and the coach has still failed to find a role for Luke Brooks. This is what is at the heart of the problem with Brooks' lack of involvement. He has no role to fulfill anymore.

Last Sunday was the classic moment for Jason Taylor to prove that he had the qualities of a coach. A place in the playoffs, a packed Leichhardt Oval, the hype and excitement - all that energy to muster and inspire a group of young men to produce their best, to fight to the end. Canberra have a big and fast team that would be a great challenge, so I wasn't surprised that we lost, but the way we capitulated by half time. It was a disgrace and the coach has to wear his proportion of the blame. I really doubt that he is capable of inspiring, of lifting a team above itself.

So I hope that we find a new coach, as soon as possible.

These are exactly the same misgivings I have.

I don't think he is a coach that can take us to the next level.

 

[Eddie]

genuinely surprised it's 37-49 against JT

I am not that surprised.

If he had just coached the team without running his mouth it might be more in his favour.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

genuinely surprised it's 37-49 against JT

I am not that surprised.

If he had just coached the team without running his mouth it might be more in his favour.

I'm not surprised at all.

What I am surprised at is the low numbers for the "anyone but JT" option. Seems as though many have an idea of who they want to replace him. I've seen a number of people comment that they don't care whom comes in as long as JT is gone.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

We have a smallish pack which is why I favoured Toovey or Kimorley as these guys pound for pound punched way up above their weight as well as knowing how to read the play.

 

[tigers2005]

I can understand if you think that Jason Taylor deserves another year, seeing as our position on the ladder is improved from last year. But, I have serious misgivings about his ability as a coach, and on balance I think it would be better if we replaced him now.

His part in the RF affair did him no credit. He came across as a dictator, not a leader, and definitely not a manager of a team. One of his main jobs was to create harmony in the group and get the best out of all the players in the squad. He ran a personal vendetta against RF and drove him out of the club. In return for what? 200K and the proof to everybody else that he was boss. This is what the club will take into its next contract negotiations with Moses, Brooks, Tedesco, Woods and so on, who have had to watch a great player be put down and be treated with no dignity or loyalty. They can be expect to be treated in the same way if they displease the coach in some way.

It is seasons end and the coach has still failed to find a role for Luke Brooks. This is what is at the heart of the problem with Brooks' lack of involvement. He has no role to fulfill anymore.

Last Sunday was the classic moment for Jason Taylor to prove that he had the qualities of a coach. A place in the playoffs, a packed Leichhardt Oval, the hype and excitement - all that energy to muster and inspire a group of young men to produce their best, to fight to the end. Canberra have a big and fast team that would be a great challenge, so I wasn't surprised that we lost, but the way we capitulated by half time. It was a disgrace and the coach has to wear his proportion of the blame. I really doubt that he is capable of inspiring, of lifting a team above itself.

So I hope that we find a new coach, as soon as possible.

These are exactly the same misgivings I have.

I don't think he is a coach that can take us to the next level.

Thats wny i think we shouldnt waste another year. With so many players off contract and still unsigned, its not going to help our cause without knowing who the coach will be. If they are planning on making a decision on JT after 6 or 10 rounds then agsin another year full of drama. If they decide he isnt the one, wow it will make the farah saga look tiny.

 

[matchball]

The next coach has to be really handsome.
A lot of people who seem fixed on JTs looks, pasty face and scarecrow for example.
Craig Wing is looking for a coaching gig.

 

[magpiecol]

First post but not my first time here. There are some real negative "supporters" here. You moan about your losses but you never celebrate your successes. You hate the coach, the players and each other. Maybe you need to find a different team to support, cause you ain't doing a very good job of supporting this one. :wink:

So True. This forum has really become a haven of negativity. The team gets to within one point of qualifying for the semi finals and so many members (not true supporters) use the forum to offload agendas they have been carrying all throughout the year.

I know right? We've only conceded 118 points in the last 3 weeks (with our season on the line).

And you my friend are one of the worst.

:blush:

 

[Knuckles]

Would be interesting to see who would put up their hand up for the job should the board embark on a change of coach. It's not a job for the faint hearted at the best of times given our recent track track record with coaches. The club should be thinking ahead in case the team has another below par performance in 2017 … That's what smart boards and management teams should be thinking.

Our track record with coaches??

5 in 17 years after 3 finals appearances?

I would say we have treated coaches OK.

If you look at the teams whose coachs are in trouble, id say it would be Warriors, Dragons and Tigers. For Toovey or Cleary, if they dont want to move countrys, i reckon the tigers are alot more appealing. True or not, if they worried about the influence of Farah he is no longer there. The worry for me is if we get of to a bad start next year, with all our players off contract and we realise JT isnt the long term solution.

Taylor deserves another year …. Albeit 2017 is his year of reckoning. Nothing less than a top eight finish should be accepted. I think most forum fans would agree to that.

 

[sheer64]

We need to be in the market place with our coach for 2018 in 2017 not after all the cream has been signed!
This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to sign for 2018!

 

[gallagher]

genuinely surprised it's 37-49 against JT

I am not that surprised.

If he had just coached the team without running his mouth it might be more in his favour.

Its too small of a poll to take any notice of. :laughing:
Just having a laugh eddie.
It will take a bit for taylor to win some fans over.

 

[ToddSanchez]

We were tipped to be bottom 4\. With a bit of luck we could have easily been entrenched in the 8\. People are so quick to point to statistics with the defence yet totally ignore the ladder. We went from 15th to 9th. That is an improvement no matter how you try and twist it. He deserves one more yr.

If you consider that the Eels had their salary cap issues, Eastern Suburbs had the Mitchell Pearce saga coupled with the massive injuries to Jarrad Warrea-Hargreaves and Boyd Cordner and the Warriors lost RTS to an ACL inside the first 5 weeks of the season maybe it would be better to adjust that final position to about 12th?

We were nearly handed a position in the 8 as a result of other teams misfortunes and we still couldn't make it. The Robbie situation made life tough for us and Tedesco's injuries weren't helpful nor was Brooks' one when he was starting to find form. Next seasons competition is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than it was this year. Realistically if we avoided the Farah drama we make the 8 - that was the crucial bit of coaching that defined our season.

2016 was Taylor's opportunity to get this team to the finals and not only did he fail but with that final performance only reinforced his lack of motivational quality and tactical nous.

For money purposes we should keep him on for next year. But crediting his coaching ability isn't on. He is comfortably one of the worst coaches at the first grade level

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We were tipped to be bottom 4\. With a bit of luck we could have easily been entrenched in the 8\. People are so quick to point to statistics with the defence yet totally ignore the ladder. We went from 15th to 9th. That is an improvement no matter how you try and twist it. He deserves one more yr.

If you consider that the Eels had their salary cap issues, Eastern Suburbs had the Mitchell Pearce saga coupled with the massive injuries to Jarrad Warrea-Hargreaves and Boyd Cordner and the Warriors lost RTS to an ACL inside the first 5 weeks of the season maybe it would be better to adjust that final position to about 12th?

**We were nearly handed a position in the 8 as a result of other teams misfortunes and we still couldn't make it. The Robbie situation made life tough for us and Tedesco's injuries weren't helpful nor was Brooks' one when he was starting to find form. Next seasons competition is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than it was this year. Realistically if we avoided the Farah drama we make the 8 - that was the crucial bit of coaching that defined our season.**

2016 was Taylor's opportunity to get this team to the finals and not only did he fail but with that final performance only reinforced his lack of motivational quality and tactical nous.

For money purposes we should keep him on for next year. But crediting his coaching ability isn't on. He is comfortably one of the worst coaches at the first grade level

Going to be a long off season reading about how so many teams are going to improve every day for 6 months.

As far as us making the finals if Farah hadn't been dropped - We won more than we lost in that period so you're clutching with that excuse :deadhorse:

FYI, we smacked the Warriors in the first round with a fit RTS.

 

[cqtiger]

I don't rate JT based on his two years with us, but he's done enough to see out his contract though. No excuses next year though - results or bust.

This

 

[innsaneink]

Would be interesting to see who would put up their hand up for the job should the board embark on a change of coach. It's not a job for the faint hearted at the best of times given our recent track track record with coaches. The club should be thinking ahead in case the team has another below par performance in 2017 … That's what smart boards and management teams should be thinking.

Our track record with coaches??

5 in 17 years after 3 finals appearances?

I would say we have treated coaches OK.

If you look at the teams whose coachs are in trouble, id say it would be Warriors, Dragons and Tigers. For Toovey or Cleary, if they dont want to move countrys, i reckon the tigers are alot more appealing. True or not, if they worried about the influence of Farah he is no longer there. The worry for me is if we get of to a bad start next year, with all our players off contract and we realise JT isnt the long term solution.

Taylor deserves another year …. Albeit 2017 is his year of reckoning. Nothing less than a top eight finish should be accepted. I think most forum fans would agree to that.

Disagree…. I cant

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Don't think anyone will disagree with that. A finish outside the 8 would show we've regressed. Simple.

 

[TCL]

The next coach has to be really handsome.
A lot of people who seem fixed on JTs looks, pasty face and scarecrow for example.
Craig Wing is looking for a coaching gig.

And must have good hair, I'm bald and live my hairstyle vicariously through the coach :laughing:

 

[timmings01]

The next coach has to be really handsome.
A lot of people who seem fixed on JTs looks, pasty face and scarecrow for example.
Craig Wing is looking for a coaching gig.

lol

Isn't Craig Wing still sitting in jail?

I think a coach should be selected from this forum. There are so many experts here.

I wonder what would be happening if this time next year Tigers are in the top 4? Will all the JT haters still be hating? I kinda think they will. lol

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The next coach has to be really handsome.
A lot of people who seem fixed on JTs looks, pasty face and scarecrow for example.
Craig Wing is looking for a coaching gig.

lol

Isn't Craig Wing still sitting in jail?

I think a coach should be selected from this forum. There are so many experts here.

I wonder what would be happening if this time next year Tigers are in the top 4? Will all the JT haters still be hating? I kinda think they will. lol

Think you mean Craig Field.

 

[TCL]

We were tipped to be bottom 4\. With a bit of luck we could have easily been entrenched in the 8\. People are so quick to point to statistics with the defence yet totally ignore the ladder. We went from 15th to 9th. That is an improvement no matter how you try and twist it. He deserves one more yr.

If you consider that the Eels had their salary cap issues, Eastern Suburbs had the Mitchell Pearce saga coupled with the massive injuries to Jarrad Warrea-Hargreaves and Boyd Cordner and the Warriors lost RTS to an ACL inside the first 5 weeks of the season maybe it would be better to adjust that final position to about 12th?

We were nearly handed a position in the 8 as a result of other teams misfortunes and we still couldn't make it. The Robbie situation made life tough for us and Tedesco's injuries weren't helpful nor was Brooks' one when he was starting to find form. Next seasons competition is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than it was this year. Realistically if we avoided the Farah drama we make the 8 - that was the crucial bit of coaching that defined our season.

2016 was Taylor's opportunity to get this team to the finals and not only did he fail but with that final performance only reinforced his lack of motivational quality and tactical nous.

For money purposes we should keep him on for next year. But crediting his coaching ability isn't on. He is comfortably one of the worst coaches at the first grade level

It's unreasonable to suggest that the only reason we were so high is that others bombed out, every year teams underperform for a multitude of reasons and you can be assured that it's going to happen again next year. Given our own handicaps we did well to be in with a shot for the 8 the last week (fluke or what ever reason). Yes our performance was rubbish and yes JT should have at least had us in the compitition on Sunday. I'm not a fan of JT but regardless of what we say here he is going to be our coach next year.
It's his third year so no more excuses. If they are not competing at the start of the year I'm confident that the club will show him the door cause if they don't their own jobs go on the line.
Who we get as a coach is anyone's guess, there are some options but you don't know what's is going to happen between now and then.
Defence and consistency was JT's mantra he hasn't delivered. But he ain't going to get the sack.
The board have set him up perfectly to be the fall guy (this board is cleaver) if and when they pull the pin. That will depend on the performance for 2017.
What I do think is that 2018 is going to be a turning point for us as we will have come out of a cap issues. A coach will have been decided on and we will build from there, if we are competitive before then that's a bonus.
But you can't put a broom through the organisation! Cause that will be worse than the RF saga and send us back to 2014.