Coronavirus Outbreak

[Cairnstigers]

We will never know the true numbers on CV inn Australia

Probably hundreds of people right now with CV who don't know it because you can't get tested

Tracking won't get everyone and certainly won't get to people in time to stop the progress


Which is why all just need to isolate.

I actually think our testing is as good as it can be. We are one of the highest testing countries in the world with 210000 tests. thats getting near 10% of the population which is a lot compared to the 4000 cases and the number of at risk/symptomatic people. The other thing that gives me confidence in the testing is the absolute constant nature of the data coming out, new infections, deaths and hospital beds are all absolutely constant and predictable.

Brazil on the other hand, 3rd or 4th most populous country in the world has the same number of confirmed cases as us but 415 deaths. That to me points a problem in testing.

Sorry mate
Not being smart
But 210,000 is less than 1% of our population

 

[diedpretty]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

 

[Tiger5150]

We will never know the true numbers on CV inn Australia

Probably hundreds of people right now with CV who don't know it because you can't get tested

Tracking won't get everyone and certainly won't get to people in time to stop the progress


Which is why all just need to isolate.

I actually think our testing is as good as it can be. We are one of the highest testing countries in the world with 210000 tests. thats getting near 10% of the population which is a lot compared to the 4000 cases and the number of at risk/symptomatic people. The other thing that gives me confidence in the testing is the absolute constant nature of the data coming out, new infections, deaths and hospital beds are all absolutely constant and predictable.

Brazil on the other hand, 3rd or 4th most populous country in the world has the same number of confirmed cases as us but 415 deaths. That to me points a problem in testing.

Sorry mate
Not being smart
But 210,000 is less than 1% of our population

Ahhhh of course. What’s a zero between friends?

 

[happy_tiger]

We will never know the true numbers on CV inn Australia

Probably hundreds of people right now with CV who don't know it because you can't get tested

Tracking won't get everyone and certainly won't get to people in time to stop the progress


Which is why all just need to isolate.

I actually think our testing is as good as it can be. We are one of the highest testing countries in the world with 210000 tests. thats getting near 10% of the population which is a lot compared to the 4000 cases and the number of at risk/symptomatic people. The other thing that gives me confidence in the testing is the absolute constant nature of the data coming out, new infections, deaths and hospital beds are all absolutely constant and predictable.

Brazil on the other hand, 3rd or 4th most populous country in the world has the same number of confirmed cases as us but 415 deaths. That to me points a problem in testing.

So the circle of CV can just go round and tound

 

[cochise]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

Except it doesn't work that way and he would be in breach of the constitution?

 

[hammertime]

Upon a little more reflection, having given some benefit of the doubt, it is time to give more direction in closing things down as looking at the news and social media reports including those on here. When so many employers are joining the chorus and the two most populous states somewhat biting their tongues, whilst businesses are already showing that the current aim doesn't work in practice.

Why wait another week or fortnight and extend the pain as it plays out naturally, at the expense of more loss and anxiety, when it is going to occur regardless as long as each infected person is passing it on to more than one other, even if at a low rate.

We are just treading water until the spread rate is less than 1 and our pain will just continue until it is well below that rate.

Yes ...but we can only tread water for so long ...if the rates continue at the current rate a Tsunami is heading our way

It already is heading our way Hap and we must be prepared for it....the people who are defying the expert advice are the people who are going to make this much bigger than expected...It goes to show right through history that the ones doing the right thing have to suffer because of the ones who do the wrong thing....

The people that seem to be not complying and thumbing there noses at the self distancing are the ones when this is over ...will be financially harnessed for a decade or longer . Watching this unfold on the TV it seems that the younger up to 40s odd are the culprits .
These fools just do not realise what financial hardships that are going to follow for there flippant behaviour and they are the ones that with a government basically bankrupted will be paying the cost !

Most of the issues are being caused by Australians who traveled overseas post 29 January when travel insurance companies started to revise policies. Elderly Australians who took cruises in particular even after the cruise ship debacle in Japan are extremely selfish and now expecting DFAT to rescue them. Once home we've all watched the whinging from passengers forced into compulsory isolation in the Swisshotel from the cruise ship which finally was allowed to birth in Hawaii. O

Yep could not agree with you more. The Australian Chinese whom the Govt moved back from Wuhan when things were bad, were far more grateful to be sent to either Christmas Island or the mining site at Darwin to spend their isolation. I would send these self entitled cruises there and let them have a good whinge. Things could be a lot worse.

100%. This is making me so angry right now. The 5 star swissotel, fully fed, funded by the taxpayer and they're having a whinge about not getting deliveroo. Does it more entitled and self centered than that?

 

[hobbo1]

Upon a little more reflection, having given some benefit of the doubt, it is time to give more direction in closing things down as looking at the news and social media reports including those on here. When so many employers are joining the chorus and the two most populous states somewhat biting their tongues, whilst businesses are already showing that the current aim doesn't work in practice.

Why wait another week or fortnight and extend the pain as it plays out naturally, at the expense of more loss and anxiety, when it is going to occur regardless as long as each infected person is passing it on to more than one other, even if at a low rate.

We are just treading water until the spread rate is less than 1 and our pain will just continue until it is well below that rate.

Yes ...but we can only tread water for so long ...if the rates continue at the current rate a Tsunami is heading our way

It already is heading our way Hap and we must be prepared for it....the people who are defying the expert advice are the people who are going to make this much bigger than expected...It goes to show right through history that the ones doing the right thing have to suffer because of the ones who do the wrong thing....

The people that seem to be not complying and thumbing there noses at the self distancing are the ones when this is over ...will be financially harnessed for a decade or longer . Watching this unfold on the TV it seems that the younger up to 40s odd are the culprits .
These fools just do not realise what financial hardships that are going to follow for there flippant behaviour and they are the ones that with a government basically bankrupted will be paying the cost !

Most of the issues are being caused by Australians who traveled overseas post 29 January when travel insurance companies started to revise policies. Elderly Australians who took cruises in particular even after the cruise ship debacle in Japan are extremely selfish and now expecting DFAT to rescue them. Once home we've all watched the whinging from passengers forced into compulsory isolation in the Swisshotel from the cruise ship which finally was allowed to birth in Hawaii. O

Yep could not agree with you more. The Australian Chinese whom the Govt moved back from Wuhan when things were bad, were far more grateful to be sent to either Christmas Island or the mining site at Darwin to spend their isolation. I would send these self entitled cruises there and let them have a good whinge. Things could be a lot worse.

100%. This is making me so angry right now. The 5 star swissotel, fully fed, funded by the taxpayer and they're having a whinge about not getting deliveroo. Does it more entitled and self centered than that?

No
And they get free bog roll and a fully stocked mini bar ?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Upon a little more reflection, having given some benefit of the doubt, it is time to give more direction in closing things down as looking at the news and social media reports including those on here. When so many employers are joining the chorus and the two most populous states somewhat biting their tongues, whilst businesses are already showing that the current aim doesn't work in practice.

Why wait another week or fortnight and extend the pain as it plays out naturally, at the expense of more loss and anxiety, when it is going to occur regardless as long as each infected person is passing it on to more than one other, even if at a low rate.

We are just treading water until the spread rate is less than 1 and our pain will just continue until it is well below that rate.

Yes ...but we can only tread water for so long ...if the rates continue at the current rate a Tsunami is heading our way

It already is heading our way Hap and we must be prepared for it....the people who are defying the expert advice are the people who are going to make this much bigger than expected...It goes to show right through history that the ones doing the right thing have to suffer because of the ones who do the wrong thing....

The people that seem to be not complying and thumbing there noses at the self distancing are the ones when this is over ...will be financially harnessed for a decade or longer . Watching this unfold on the TV it seems that the younger up to 40s odd are the culprits .
These fools just do not realise what financial hardships that are going to follow for there flippant behaviour and they are the ones that with a government basically bankrupted will be paying the cost !

Most of the issues are being caused by Australians who traveled overseas post 29 January when travel insurance companies started to revise policies. Elderly Australians who took cruises in particular even after the cruise ship debacle in Japan are extremely selfish and now expecting DFAT to rescue them. Once home we've all watched the whinging from passengers forced into compulsory isolation in the Swisshotel from the cruise ship which finally was allowed to birth in Hawaii. O

Yep could not agree with you more. The Australian Chinese whom the Govt moved back from Wuhan when things were bad, were far more grateful to be sent to either Christmas Island or the mining site at Darwin to spend their isolation. I would send these self entitled cruises there and let them have a good whinge. Things could be a lot worse.

100%. This is making me so angry right now. The 5 star swissotel, fully fed, funded by the taxpayer and they're having a whinge about not getting deliveroo. Does it more entitled and self centered than that?

Should have made them wait it out on the boat.

 

[Geo]

I's all good Mrs Scomo went out and bought Jig saw puzzle's for the kids..

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Upon a little more reflection, having given some benefit of the doubt, it is time to give more direction in closing things down as looking at the news and social media reports including those on here. When so many employers are joining the chorus and the two most populous states somewhat biting their tongues, whilst businesses are already showing that the current aim doesn't work in practice.

Why wait another week or fortnight and extend the pain as it plays out naturally, at the expense of more loss and anxiety, when it is going to occur regardless as long as each infected person is passing it on to more than one other, even if at a low rate.

We are just treading water until the spread rate is less than 1 and our pain will just continue until it is well below that rate.

Yes ...but we can only tread water for so long ...if the rates continue at the current rate a Tsunami is heading our way

It already is heading our way Hap and we must be prepared for it....the people who are defying the expert advice are the people who are going to make this much bigger than expected...It goes to show right through history that the ones doing the right thing have to suffer because of the ones who do the wrong thing....

The people that seem to be not complying and thumbing there noses at the self distancing are the ones when this is over ...will be financially harnessed for a decade or longer . Watching this unfold on the TV it seems that the younger up to 40s odd are the culprits .
These fools just do not realise what financial hardships that are going to follow for there flippant behaviour and they are the ones that with a government basically bankrupted will be paying the cost !

Most of the issues are being caused by Australians who traveled overseas post 29 January when travel insurance companies started to revise policies. Elderly Australians who took cruises in particular even after the cruise ship debacle in Japan are extremely selfish and now expecting DFAT to rescue them. Once home we've all watched the whinging from passengers forced into compulsory isolation in the Swisshotel from the cruise ship which finally was allowed to birth in Hawaii. O

Yep could not agree with you more. The Australian Chinese whom the Govt moved back from Wuhan when things were bad, were far more grateful to be sent to either Christmas Island or the mining site at Darwin to spend their isolation. I would send these self entitled cruises there and let them have a good whinge. Things could be a lot worse.

100%. This is making me so angry right now. The 5 star swissotel, fully fed, funded by the taxpayer and they're having a whinge about not getting deliveroo. Does it more entitled and self centered than that?

Have these ugly Australians heard of cabin fever? Would they like to be still on the cruise ship confined in their cabin because coronavirus is rampant throughout the ship? Do. They realise they are in the highest risk demographic and the next medical check they may receive is in ICU.

 

[twentyforty]

Government gearing up for "foreign entities with ties to their governments" snapping up Australian assets weakened by current economic conditions.Let us hope they are up the task.

Let's hope the Government bans future foreign ownership of land in this country
Lease ok but ownership no
And a lease like standard industrial property with a 3 x 3 or 5 x 5 year lease
Not a 99 year lease

And limits share in any company in this country to less than 49% with all taxes to be paid in this country, not taken off shore

Time to take ownership of this country and not sell it off

Someone tried to do that 50 years ago and was booted out of office by the buffoons with no foresight.


Following that a more modern day buffoon came with a more stupid idea. We should charge $50,000 for citizenship. I think he went by the name Rudd.

Whats that got to do with what i said - absolutely nothing.

Lol, maybe I misunderstood? Thought you were discussing foreigners buying Australian assets. My view is that if anyone who has $50k would make you feel more comfortable.

 

[Snake]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

Except it doesn't work that way and he would be in breach of the constitution?

As stated above ...Please do some research.. the Feds can only advise ! the constitution does not allow the Feds to take control ...the Federation of states .. The PM must be frustrated not to have total control .. to many cooks one thinks !

 

[Tim Sheens]

Couldn't believe the guy that I just watched on the news complaining about being put up at the Ibis hotel instead of the Intercontinental. The gall of some people to complain about being housed and fed, along with medicinal needs etcetera for the public good.

 

[OzLuke]

Couldn't believe the guy that I just watched on the news complaining about being put up at the Ibis hotel instead of the Intercontinental. The gall of some people to complain about being housed and fed, along with medicinal needs etcetera for the public good.

don't forget that for most of these people it was a choice to travel, for whatever reason, and the government warned them that it might happen.....

Irony was that at work a lot of my "clients" were watching it, and up went a cheer when the flog on the tv was complaining about inmates getting treated better......hahahahaha

 

[Guest]

How is the form of the 33. medical professionals who defied the new quarantine rules and returned to their home States on domestic flights ? Six were caught by Federal Police and made to quarantine. Does this. mean all other passengers on those flights have to quarantine? If so those arrogant knobs should pay all expenses as well as being punished,

I had fun with that yesterday...not! Ropable...:angry:

 

[Guest]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

Except it doesn't work that way and he would be in breach of the constitution?

As stated above ...Please do some research.. the Feds can only advise ! the constitution does not allow the Feds to take control ...the Federation of states .. The PM must be frustrated not to have total control .. to many cooks one thinks !

Correct.

 

[innsaneink]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

It's not that simple.... Schools for example all fall under state govt jurisdiction...Fed Govt has no control there, I'm sure there's many other instances like that

 

[cochise]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

It's not that simple.... Schools for example all fall under state govt jurisdiction...Fed Govt has no control there, I'm sure there's many other instances like that

The majority of things involved in this crisis fall under state control such as hospitals, schools, police, legal systems etc. That's why all of Morrison's announcements have to be put into law by the states!

 

[Cairnstigers]

Information from USA Today on Saturday

The U.S. counted more than 124,000 cases of coronavirus Saturday, with at least 2,100 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins University data dashboard. More confirmations are expected as the U.S. ramps up testing. 

About 660,000 people are known to have been infected with COVID-19 globally, and more than 30,000 have died.

For those of you who struggle with maths that is almost 5% of people who contract the disease

 

[Geo]

Government - Can't have more than 5 people at a Wedding or Funeral

Same Government - 3 million Queenslaners get out there, line up and vote.

Not the same government

That's the problem. State and Federal aren't on the same page and they need to be in regards to this.

No, a true leader would have taken control and told states it was a national emegency and all states would be following the decisions made by Federal govt as one. As it is now its no better than a dogs breakfast - all over the place.

It's not that simple.... Schools for example all fall under state govt jurisdiction...Fed Govt has no control there, I'm sure there's many other instances like that

Not only that Independent and Catholic Schools can do there own thing as well..my school had started remote learning 3 weeks ago