Farah/Taylor Thread...

[851]

It's amazing when you have a coach such as Bennett who can coach, has excellent communication skills and is respected.

Those brown paper bags sure buy you a lot of respect!!

Tevita Pangai rang Bennett because he wanted to play under him!

Is he any relation to David Pangai who played for Balmain and WTs under 20s and went to NQ?

I think he is Mosese brother who played for us around 2009, from memory there are quite a few brothers.

 

[Nelson]

I think he is Mosese brother who played for us around 2009, from memory there are quite a few brothers.

Mosese was with us as recently as 2013 before going and joining Canberra where his two younger brothers were then playing.

It looks like he's in the Townsville Blackhawks squad for this season (I also noticed Brendan Santi and Delouise Hoeter in that squad).

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

you just wrote another one :smiley: and it didn't have a single fact to back that up

Most people's problems with Taylor are there in front of you on the field , and in Pressos on almost any game day, and in a lot of his interviews. And selections before the ( mythical or not) Bucketts is alleged to have joined him in selections.

Whereas most of the comments about Farah are to do with things that no one would really know for sure about unless they were there. This last eruption seems to have come from a comment Robbie made in answer to a question that he was asked.
When asked how did he feel about the threat to be dropped, He answered that it hurt, and he'd never forget it.
To me, that's a perfectly normal answer for any one to give .
To my knowledge ( correct me if I'm wrong). he never said anything about JT, and I and a lot of people took it as meaning that he was talking about The feelings itself. He didn't bag JT for doing it, ( no matter what he thought) .
Reports , supposedly from someone who seems to have more info than you or me , say that Farah had no problem with Taylor, and was training hard and there was no problems

His ducks and Drakes with the hooker position this week have set the media off again.
I was a supporter of Taylor coming here at the start, , not just because of Potter, but because I genuinely thought that he would do a good job here . but instead I've seem no evidence that he's improved any thing here except maybe our injuries situation, it seemed that that was the case early , but I don't have any figures to really back that up . Our Halves have gone backwards, and seems to not know how to help them.
And it seems that he is prepared to disrupt the club at any cost to try again to force
Farah out.

Did you write out that 20 line whinge fest all over again or did you just copy and paste it from somewhere else you'd moaned it?

are you disputing anything there , or are you just whinging for the sake of whinging. ?
I at least tried to put the reasons for my opinion about Taylor clearly and tried to be as factual as I could while doing it
rather than just say JT is a cancer in the club

See the difference, maybe you should try and tell us what facts you don't agree with and why, it really won't take long . But I admit is is easier to just say "I want Farah out "

 

[philgood]

Here is an interesting fact. Neither our attack or defence has improved under jason taylor. The guy is a rubbish coach who the players are not responding to.

The halves have regressed and instead of using Farah's creativity around the ruck to take the pressure off the young halves, he chooses to play a brand of football that clearly does not suit the players in the side.

Aa long as JT is in charge, the results wont change imo

 

[Nelson]

are you disputing anything there , or are you just whinging for the sake of whinging. ?
I at least tried to put the reasons for my opinion about Taylor clearly and tried to be as factual as I could while doing it
rather than just say JT is a cancer in the club

See the difference, maybe you should try and tell us what facts you don't agree with and why, it really won't take long . But I admit is is easier to just say "I want Farah out "

I agree with plenty of what you are complaining about, just as I have agreed the last 50 times you've said it. You seem to think I see this as a Farah vs Taylor thing but I don't, I want them both out. I never thought JT had done a good job as a coach, I just didn't think the club could afford to dump another coach so soon after axing Potter. After the Canberra loss I thought it was clear that he just wasn't getting the team up for games and so I joined in the chorus of people wanting him dumped.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

are you disputing anything there , or are you just whinging for the sake of whinging. ?
I at least tried to put the reasons for my opinion about Taylor clearly and tried to be as factual as I could while doing it
rather than just say JT is a cancer in the club

See the difference, maybe you should try and tell us what facts you don't agree with and why, it really won't take long . But I admit is is easier to just say "I want Farah out "

I agree with plenty of what you are complaining about, just as I have agreed the last 50 times you've said it. You seem to think I see this as a Farah vs Taylor thing but I don't, I want them both out. I never thought JT had done a good job as a coach, I just didn't think the club could afford to dump another coach so soon after axing Potter. After the Canberra loss I thought it was clear that he just wasn't getting the team up for games and so I joined in the chorus of people wanting him dumped.

What an astute gentleman you are, I look forward to you agreeing with me for the next 50 times, but I've told you a million times, not to exaggerate . :smiley:

 

[Nelson]

What an astute gentleman you are, I look forward to you agreeing with me for the next 50 times, but I've told you a million times, not to exaggerate . :smiley:

To clarify what I agreed with was the stuff about JT. We still do not agree on Farah and I doubt we ever will.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Ah, but that doesn't suit some of the forums agendas.
You shouldn't post things that'll tshow that Farah isn't sticking knives into Taylor every day and twice on Sunday's . That's not what they want to hear

The irony of you complaining about people having agendas… :laughing:

It's true, it would kill some of you to not have something that you can build into a conspiracy for Farah to do or say something to affect Taylor. How do you explain that TTs report about the Team doesn't show any thing to back up the usual bleats about Farah.

my complaints about our underachieving coach , have been backed up on numerous occasions, and concern his erratic behaviour( bleating on radio stations,)
Comments at Press conferences that go completely against what we all see in the game.
I won't bother repeating all of those.
His bizarre habit of playing 3, or so hookers, or no recognised hookers at all.
Wasting bench players by only giving a few mins in a game
Breaking his public boast that we would no longer play injured players, or players out of position.
Having a player who showed , without doubt ,that he was exactly what we needed as a lock , moved to hooker in his next game
His inability to improve the team and specifically , our halves .
Would you like more, because there's plenty.
This bloke has most people that I know, laughing their heads off that we are stuck with such an incompetent HD . You do realise that we are a joke don't you?

**Of course we are, and if you don't realise that our infamous no 9 is one of the most hated players by opposition supporters you are one delusional human being.**

Farah may be hated for a number of wrong reasons but the only one due to football is his capacity to do a good job on the field, Benny Elias was probably hated for the same reasons by Qlders that Farah was. Both were successful in SOO and had other similar traits endowed by nature and nurture.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

There are a few doggy fans keen on robbie joining.

One calls him the "coachslayer" :stuck_out_tongue:

Wants him over there to get Rid of Hasler.

Right now i'd be happy to swap Robbie and Des :roll

that could be mutual as far as Robbie is concerned, he could take out another GF before retiring, he would love that - make his day. He could get another tattoo to match 2005 and 2014.

 

[Blaze]

It's amazing when you don't have a player that indermines the coach…...... Seriously, give it up.

Nice deflection but this is about coaching ability, not the players. Go re familiarise yourself with the pre match interview with Freddie last week. Just plain embarrassing and you get the sense of why JT could never inspire a team.

I'm familiar with the interview, there was nothing embarrassing about it. Your hatred and ability to deflect anything and everything onto Taylor without actual facts to support it apart from your point of view is beyond ridiculous, you don't like the guy, good for you. But don't try and tell us the inner workings of the team and its personalities and relationships. Simple fact is you don't know, nor does anyone else on here, and that's fine. But give it a rest mate, I struggle to find any post of yours that doesn't have a go at Taylor. That's fine, your point is made. Thanks for that. Same as I THINK Farah is the one upsetting the team harmony, difference is I don't write 20 odd posts about it on every thread everyday… Enjoy your night.[/quote
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you just wrote another one :smiley: and it didn't have a single fact to back that up

Most people's problems with Taylor are there in front of you on the field , and in Pressos on almost any game day, and in a lot of his interviews. And selections before the ( mythical or not) Bucketts is alleged to have joined him in selections.

Whereas most of the comments about Farah are to do with things that no one would really know for sure about unless they were there. This last eruption seems to have come from a comment Robbie made in answer to a question that he was asked.
When asked how did he feel about the threat to be dropped, He answered that it hurt, and he'd never forget it.
To me, that's a perfectly normal answer for any one to give .
To my knowledge ( correct me if I'm wrong). he never said anything about JT, and I and a lot of people took it as meaning that he was talking about The feelings itself. He didn't bag JT for doing it, ( no matter what he thought) .
Reports , supposedly from someone who seems to have more info than you or me , say that Farah had no problem with Taylor, and was training hard and there was no problems

His ducks and Drakes with the hooker position this week have set the media off again.
I was a supporter of Taylor coming here at the start, , not just because of Potter, but because I genuinely thought that he would do a good job here . but instead I've seem no evidence that he's improved any thing here except maybe our injuries situation, it seemed that that was the case early , but I don't have any figures to really back that up . Our Halves have gone backwards, and seems to not know how to help them.
And it seems that he is prepared to disrupt the club at any cost to try again to force
Farah out.

Still no facts tho are there… What has Taylor said about Farah? Keeping in mind it was another coach who has since been released that actually said the infamous reserve grade comment. Our team hasn't gone backwards, we are fighting mostly everyday with a team full of potential simply because we can't afford anyone and this is what we have got. It's not as if the coach has his perfect team as was the same with potter, we are trying hard to get thru this cap mess AND play competitively, unfortunately, you can't have both. This is the hard times, and will only get better when Farah leaves, simply to free up money... I really don't care for Farah or Taylor to be honest, I'm just prepared to stick with crap for the moment while we get our house back in order. Just sick of the bashing of the coach and Farah for that matter, the media love you guys so they keep serving it up... Every week!! It's getting boring...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He's a short, kinda ugly looking little guy. This may sound stupid on the surface, but is a lot of the hate directed to him have to do with how he looks? Because honestly, 90% of the insults he cops are about his looks. Burn the scarecrow etc. People use it against him. Surprising that grown men would care so much for another man's looks. It's very catty.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

So Blaze,

A record of 13 from 37 over 18 months is hardly a case for retention. In fact, the newspapers would be all over any other coach if they had the same record. Why do you think JT skates?

As far back as last year Matt Head on ABC Radio (you know the Matt Head who is now involved with the Dragons and was SG BAll coach of Balmain) stating that the team had gone backwards under JT from game 1.

We've witnessed the disgraceful treatmentof Farah by JT and subsequent huge outpouring of support for Farah at CSS. Despite the worst efforts of the JT lovers and anti Farah conglomerate on this forum, the wider WTs' community overwhelming support Farah.

We've witnessed the embarrassing press conferences by JT over 18 months including his wonderful effort mentioned previously with Fittler. This was discussed on this forum in the context of how bad JT was during the interview. You must have missed that one.

And team selections; Farah, buying Ballin, the inequitable treatment of players in terms of selection. Nofoaluma and Kev retained yet others dropped and advised to look around. If the same standards were applied to JT, he would have gone after six games.

I'll continue to post on this forum and you can keep posting your fact free posts. I note your little dig at Farah at the end which no doubt you couldn't resist. I find this amusing because if you put Farah's record up against JT's, JT doesn't come out of it very well.

 

[Juro]

There are far too many JTs in the NRL…

 

[MacDougall]

I think it is because he is clearly a bad coach. Has documented issues leading. Has been punched in the face by his own player. Has had players rebel against his strategies. Has failed to implement his ideas and when he does they don't really work very well anyway. He is Terry Lamb good.

 

[happy_tiger]

JT is Hobbo's mancrush

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I love Paws logic that if you hate Farah, you must automatically love Taylor. So much ignorance. Paws, you're so far ott on this subject, it's almost like you're a parody.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Really? I noted the JT Lovers and Anti Farah conglomerate on this forum GNR. Both co exist on this forum although there is sure to be a cross over between the two. Besides GNR, I would have thought you had learnt from having your arse kicked last night on this forum.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

According to the Smh this morning we can look forward to the rest of the season with a makeshift hooker in quite a lot of our games as Taylor continues his Vendetta against the second best Hooker in the game
What a Richard Head
13-37

 

[Pawsandclaws]

At some point, you would think even our Board will have to act. The petulant behaviour of Taylor is astounding. Farah may not be universally liked, but there is no doubt he is our best hooker.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

From the Brisbane Times. If this is true, it is a very poor reflection on our club and no doubt will lead to further unsettled times.

While team chemistry is one of the reasons why Taylor is restricting his hooker's game time, it is also understood the Tigers are using it as a ploy to tempt Farah to walk out on the final year of his contract in 2017.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nrl-robbie-farah-benched-as-future-at-wests-tigers-remains-unclear-20160608-gpelrr.html