FYI Cronulla and Gold Coast Game Betting Cancelled

[Yossarian]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

 

[supercoach]

We are getting pages and pages of print media on the NRL and the drug scandal,but what about the AFL. Hardy seen a word since Essedon were named about a month or so ago and my understanding than was the AFL had a lot more to worry about than the NRL.

The Nrl will survive this scandal, but a couple of clubs might not. The Sharks have always been hanging on by a finger nail and if Manly have the same blow up as it has been suggested they also could be in big trouble as their bottom line is very shaky at present.

For those who still think this is a beat up and the authorities have no hard evidence,pull your heads out of the sand

 

[Basil_Tiger]

I think most punters feel there is substance to the story its just the way its been handled from day 1\. Anyone that has followed the game know that Steroids and all there derivatives,feel good pills in various forms,Coke & Caffeine etc have been around elite players since the 1970's,The Wallabies had sanctioned Caffeine pills up until recently.
The big difference here IMO is the club sanctioned use of these supplements,over the past 30 years or so it was the player that sought out methods to improve performance & stamina,the clubs usually turned a blind eye,if the player improved well & good,if he didn't he was dropped.
In the past there was always someone shady hanging around Gyms & Pubs/Nightclubs offering the "gear" to players its just now the ACC feels its getting organised by major crime figures.

 

[stryker]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

Yeah and you need to give your chicken little, gossiping bullcrap a rest. This whole thing is out of control. You are putting ASADA and the ACC on some sort sort of pedestal. They have come up with jack squat so far yet are mouthing off insesantly.

 

[happy_tiger]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

Yeah and you need to give your chicken little, gossiping bullcrap a rest. This whole thing is out of control. You are putting ASADA and the ACC on some sort sort of pedestal. They have come up with jack squat so far yet are mouthing off insesantly.

Not so sure they have nothing Stryker If a QC representing CSFC and its players approaches ASADA and then comes back advising the club to take the 6 months they having something . A lot of something imo .I will say it again , don't be surprised if the Sharks go under if the ARLC doesn't bail them out or relocate them

 

[Twodogs]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

You need to get your eyes tested. The person they engaged was in fact a woman, and she used to be the head of ASADA. Could you be confident of her independence? If I was a player, I would listen to my legal counsel. Thankfully the Players Association has provided one. I strongly suggest they use him.

 

[Twodogs]

Not so sure they have nothing Stryker If a QC representing CSFC and its players approaches ASADA and then comes back advising the club to take the 6 months they having something . A lot of something imo .I will say it again , don't be surprised if the Sharks go under if the ARLC doesn't bail them out or relocate them

It wasn't a QC, it was ASADA's former deputy chair Dr Tricia Kavanagh.

 

[Twodogs]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:
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Yeah and you need to give your chicken little, gossiping bullcrap a rest. This whole thing is out of control. You are putting ASADA and the ACC on some sort sort of pedestal. They have come up with jack squat so far yet are mouthing off insesantly.

I'm with you, Stryker. I smelled a rat from the start and ASADA has admitted that they don't have any evidence. So much am I angry after hearing about the AFL's apparently preferential treatment that this morning I started a blog at https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=419697018120043&id=419682768121468.

I call BS on ASADA!

 

[Twodogs]

For those who still think this is a beat up and the authorities have no hard evidence,pull your heads out of the sand

They've admitted they have no hard evidence.

From http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/8402512/Cronulla-Sharks-stand-down-coach-amid-scandal

"Smith also reiterated the Sharks would field a team against the Gold Coast Titans on Sunday.

"Earlier this week we asked ASADA to provide us with the names of any player it currently has sufficient evidence to request the NRL issue an infraction notice under our anti-doping code.

"The response we received back from ASADA was that its investigation continues and will for a number of weeks.

"ASADA indicated it is not currently in a position to request the NRL to issue any infraction notices. Without an infraction notice, the NRL will not stand down any player."

 

[happy_tiger]

Yeah so lets get the players to fork out 10 of thousands of dollars for legal representation and still to lose Two Dogs

You do realize even though the clubs have given them the "medication" to take it is still the players responsibility to say "what is this stuff'

Calling BS is a load of BS . Its coming and many league fans should stop turning a blind eye and actually accept it

Or maybe you should click your heels three times and close your eyes and say "Theirs no place like home three times " Back to Dreamsville

 

[innsaneink]

Doesnt matter who eventually is right or wrong or who guessed correctly or not….whatever the outcome, as it stands right now its cast a black cloud over the 2013 comp and its pissing me off, particulalrly when Ive been waiting all summer for it

 

[Yossarian]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

Yeah and you need to give your chicken little, gossiping bullcrap a rest. This whole thing is out of control. You are putting ASADA and the ACC on some sort sort of pedestal. They have come up with jack squat so far yet are mouthing off insesantly.

It's not gossip champ. And there is a large difference between what they have and what they've released. Just trying to present the facts as I understand them. You can ignore my posts if you want.

 

[Yossarian]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

You need to get your eyes tested. The person they engaged was in fact a woman, and she used to be the head of ASADA. Could you be confident of her independence? If I was a player, I would listen to my legal counsel. Thankfully the Players Association has provided one. I strongly suggest they use him.

Yes my apologies for calling her a guy. I don't proof-read these posts as well as I should. I make no judgement on her honesty or independence but the fact is she went into her meeting with them with one opinion and left with another that supported the players taking a 6 month plea.

 

[Newtown]

Yeah so lets get the players to fork out 10 of thousands of dollars for legal representation and still to lose Two Dogs

You do realize even though the clubs have given them the "medication" to take it is still the players responsibility to say "what is this stuff'

Calling BS is a load of BS . Its coming and many league fans should stop turning a blind eye and actually accept it

Or maybe you should click your heels three times and close your eyes and say "Theirs no place like home three times " Back to Dreamsville

For the players, coaches and club administrators it lends another meaning to the saying "pushing the envelope". If it is not cleared up where would it finish - every team will be fielding a team of chemically designed robots?

 

[Hardwick]

I'm smelling ASADA's bluff has been called and they are holding a pair of duces. 'Not enough evidence to request NRL to issue infraction notices'. Where is the additional evidence coming from? And a couple of other points:

You need to get your nosed fixed! Even the reported facts tell you a lot. The club engaged a guy to take on ASADA and after he met them he came back and told them to cop 6 months. I think you can assume ASADA has a stronger hand than that. The evidence has been there for some time, we're now just seeing some activity.

You need to get your eyes tested. The person they engaged was in fact a woman, and she used to be the head of ASADA. Could you be confident of her independence? If I was a player, I would listen to my legal counsel. Thankfully the Players Association has provided one. I strongly suggest they use him.

Yes my apologies for calling her a guy. I don't proof-read these posts as well as I should. I make no judgement on her honesty or independence but the fact is she went into her meeting with them with one opinion and left with another that supported the players taking a 6 month plea.

You should have stuck to your guns YOSS. The ex ASADA prosecutor that suggested the Sharks take the plea was a male by the name of Richard Redman. Dr Kavanagh's mandate was completely different.

 

[Snake]

If the worst senario occurs and Cronulla face financial insolvency in no way should they be helped by NRL or anybody else. Cronulla should of been punted 20yrs ago and they would of been except for the support of the league time after time. This is the opportunity to expand to another state, Cronulla IMO have been the beggars of the league for way to long …..have thought this way for 20yrs.

 

[supercoach]

If the worst senario occurs and Cronulla face financial insolvency in no way should they be helped by NRL or anybody else. Cronulla should of been punted 20yrs ago and they would of been except for the support of the league time after time. This is the opportunity to expand to another state, Cronulla IMO have been the beggars of the league for way to long …..have thought this way for 20yrs.

Snake, most clubs in the NRL are walking a financial tight rope, its dosnt take much for things to come crashing down. I think the Sharks have done a great job to be here in 2013 and have assembled a top roster.I would hate to see them crash and burn because like our club they have lots of people who love them and their part of their life. Now what they have done may have been naive, but I dont think they were trying to cheat.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

If the worst senario occurs and Cronulla face financial insolvency in no way should they be helped by NRL or anybody else. Cronulla should of been punted 20yrs ago and they would of been except for the support of the league time after time. This is the opportunity to expand to another state, Cronulla IMO have been the beggars of the league for way to long …..have thought this way for 20yrs.

Snake, most clubs in the NRL are walking a financial tight rope, its dosnt take much for things to come crashing down. I think the Sharks have done a great job to be here in 2013 and have assembled a top roster.I would hate to see them crash and burn because like our club they have lots of people who love them and their part of their life. **Now what they have done may have been naive, but I dont think they were trying to cheat.**

I don't know about that…if you are taking performance-enhancing drugs then you are cheating IMO. People that have been doing it and get caught will pass it off as "just trying to get a little edge over the rest of the competition". But it is straight-out cheating. Not as bad as what the scum from the Storm did though.
Then again, I see no reason why any player involved in this should be stood down or suspended. After all, look at what happened to the Storm players that got caught cheating...none of them missed so much as 1 game, a few have since played SOO, represented Australia in Tests and the biggest turd of all is the captain of his state and country. No wonder clubs and players cheat, their doesn't really seem to be too much, if any, punishment if you do get caught.

 

[tig_prmz]

Doesnt matter who eventually is right or wrong or who guessed correctly or not….whatever the outcome, **as it stands right now its cast a black cloud over the 2013 comp** and its pissing me off, particulalrly when Ive been waiting all summer for it

it was bound to happen sooner or later, no one know how long this is gonna take. would u rather it happen mid season? there was never a good time for it and there never will be.

as supporters, imo all we can do is take it week by week.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If the worst senario occurs and Cronulla face financial insolvency in no way should they be helped by NRL or anybody else. Cronulla should of been punted 20yrs ago and they would of been except for the support of the league time after time. This is the opportunity to expand to another state, Cronulla IMO have been the beggars of the league for way to long …..have thought this way for 20yrs.

It will cost the NRL more money in penalties to the broadcasters for not supplying the product promised, and that is 8 games a week. Cronulla will be propped up.