Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506053) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506048) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506047) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505994) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505959) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505795) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505794) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505793) said:
Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

How about we send Simpkin to Belmore.

He has played 9 games Liddle 56 Simpkin needs to be given a chance Liddle is exposed and ceiling reached one dimensional good runner poor passing game.
Hopefully Sheens urges Madge to push him to belmore or Canberra

What’s the obsession with Liddle going to the Dogs?

don't care where he goes but logically it is dogs or Canberra it could be gold Coast for all I care

Why is the Dogs you always mention though? He was linked there 3 years ago. Pretty sure that link is dead now
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506044) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506041) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506040) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506038) said:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/ron-massey-cup-wentworthville-magpies-filia-utoikamanu-awarded-rookie-of-the-year/news-story/7ffff56bb4c28ec5c49e274f835a18e3%3famp

Stef”s brother, Filia is back playing. Maybe we can offer a train and trial deal? He is an edge backrower

Hopefully he’s got more going for him than just being Stef’s brother.

Junior rep player. So he is talented

Is that the one that pick up a bad injury at r
Eels?

Yes, broken neck and he only has one artery left to his brain, the other one is damaged. I read that somewhere.
 
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506056) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506044) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506041) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506040) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506038) said:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/ron-massey-cup-wentworthville-magpies-filia-utoikamanu-awarded-rookie-of-the-year/news-story/7ffff56bb4c28ec5c49e274f835a18e3%3famp

Stef”s brother, Filia is back playing. Maybe we can offer a train and trial deal? He is an edge backrower

Hopefully he’s got more going for him than just being Stef’s brother.

Junior rep player. So he is talented

Is that the one that pick up a bad injury at r
Eels?

Yes, broken neck and he only has one artery left to his brain, the other one is damaged. I read that somewhere.

Sounds like he should be focusing on other things rather than footy.
 
@lupo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505972) said:
Refer to previous Australian Rugby League Players Award 2000, Current Collective Bargaining Agreement agreed with the Rugby League Players Association, TPAs etc. The market you refer to is the NRL and participating clubs have collectively signed off to operate within a nominated salary cap. Players know the operating constraints before signing a contract. Even in the land of litigation USA, the NFL & NFLPA have agreed to $208.2M salary cap ceiling for 2022 season.

Yep....your point being?

As I said the ARLPA Award 2000 sets out the ***minimum*** salary as does the CBA.

No the market I refer to is ***NOT*** the NRL, that is the whole point. Yes players sign up to a NRL contract under the "nominated" salary cap, so what stops them earning money outside of their Contract with their employer?

The REAL market is a lot wider than the NRL and that is the whole point. What if the Steyne Hotel wants to get Tom Turbo to DJ each saturday night through Summer for $500K? What if Tradie want Munster, JAC and Finucane to advertise their undies or deodorant or whatever the hell they are selling? What if Foxtel wanted Craig Wing to appear on a fashion show.........what regulation stops these guys making $$$.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505989) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505982) said:
@tonza said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505978) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505934) said:
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505665) said:
Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?


It was. But if you think that’s an excuse, look at Cini.

Cini was a "cult hero" after his debut because he didnt screw up and had a mullet.

It was his second game that was a problem.
 
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505994) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505959) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505795) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505794) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505793) said:
Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

How about we send Simpkin to Belmore.
I think he would be all for it
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506058) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506037) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506035) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506034) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505989) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505982) said:
@tonza said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505978) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505934) said:
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505665) said:
Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?


It was. But if you think that’s an excuse, look at Cini.

Are you not referring to the conversation were these people where talking about Simpkin missing a tackle against souths? Or are you just randomly spurting out points?

You acted like I brought that up. I just asked why it was warranted to hate on for him one bad game, while the other is getting a rails run by a section of the forum.

Ok cool, now Im just telling you why they are two completely different scenarios. Giving up faith in Cini has multiple factors to it.. Wheres he gonna play? Fullback? No I think most would rather see Dillon or Laurie there, centre? Pass. Wing? Not quick enough. Simpkin on the other hand, his only competitor is Liddle in this squad, of whom cant pass a ball. Clearly the club see it fit to keep him on given no one has established themselves in that position.

Liddle can't pass a ball? Really? Sorry, I (semi-) respectfully disagree. Liddle is the best hooker in the club, and one of WT best players of 2021. End of story. Simpkin has a lot of improving to do in 2022 to unseat the starting hooker role from Liddle.

Liddle wasn’t consistently one of our best he had good games like everyone else but was never consistent week in and out some games he was gassed after 20 minutes and threw some shocking passes from dummy half that went way forward Simpkin made mistakes too but he hasn’t played 10 NRL games yet Liddle has played 59 games some of those mistakes he made shouldn’t be happening its no wonder why Luciano was mad at him in the off-season before this season started one thing I’ll praise about Liddle is he can run when he’s got space but that’s it
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506048) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506047) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505994) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505959) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505795) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505794) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505793) said:
Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

How about we send Simpkin to Belmore.

He has played 9 games Liddle 56 Simpkin needs to be given a chance Liddle is exposed and ceiling reached one dimensional good runner poor passing game.
Hopefully Sheens urges Madge to push him to belmore or Canberra

What’s the obsession with Liddle going to the Dogs?

One of the few clubs with a worse hooker.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506063) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506048) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506047) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505994) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505959) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505795) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505794) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505793) said:
Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

How about we send Simpkin to Belmore.

He has played 9 games Liddle 56 Simpkin needs to be given a chance Liddle is exposed and ceiling reached one dimensional good runner poor passing game.
Hopefully Sheens urges Madge to push him to belmore or Canberra

What’s the obsession with Liddle going to the Dogs?

One of the few clubs with a worse hooker.

Liddle is definitely better than JMK I’ll admit that but he’s still not that good either
 
@glenji95 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506064) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506063) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506048) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506047) said:
@russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505994) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505959) said:
@ultimate-warrior said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505795) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505794) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505793) said:
Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

How about we send Simpkin to Belmore.

He has played 9 games Liddle 56 Simpkin needs to be given a chance Liddle is exposed and ceiling reached one dimensional good runner poor passing game.
Hopefully Sheens urges Madge to push him to belmore or Canberra

What’s the obsession with Liddle going to the Dogs?

One of the few clubs with a worse hooker.

Liddle is definitely better than JMK I’ll admit that but he’s still not that good either

He’s the best we currently have.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506058) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506037) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506035) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506034) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505989) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505982) said:
@tonza said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505978) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505934) said:
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505665) said:
Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?


It was. But if you think that’s an excuse, look at Cini.

Are you not referring to the conversation were these people where talking about Simpkin missing a tackle against souths? Or are you just randomly spurting out points?

You acted like I brought that up. I just asked why it was warranted to hate on for him one bad game, while the other is getting a rails run by a section of the forum.

Ok cool, now Im just telling you why they are two completely different scenarios. Giving up faith in Cini has multiple factors to it.. Wheres he gonna play? Fullback? No I think most would rather see Dillon or Laurie there, centre? Pass. Wing? Not quick enough. Simpkin on the other hand, his only competitor is Liddle in this squad, of whom cant pass a ball. Clearly the club see it fit to keep him on given no one has established themselves in that position.

Liddle can't pass a ball? Really? Sorry, I (semi-) respectfully disagree. Liddle is the best hooker in the club, and one of WT best players of 2021. End of story. Simpkin has a lot of improving to do in 2022 to unseat the starting hooker role from Liddle.

The argument for him being better than Simpkin - okay fair comment and discussion

Saying he was one of our best players in 2021 is trying to hard to make your point that we should keep him. Completely incorrect statement
 
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506067) said:
Mitchell Pearce on NBN news just now endorsing the club to lure Luke Brooks to the knights asap.

As hard as it is to believe, they may just be a more inept run club than us, constantly trying to publicly lure a contracted player, whose club have said back off.
 
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506056) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506044) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506041) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506040) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506038) said:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/ron-massey-cup-wentworthville-magpies-filia-utoikamanu-awarded-rookie-of-the-year/news-story/7ffff56bb4c28ec5c49e274f835a18e3%3famp

Stef”s brother, Filia is back playing. Maybe we can offer a train and trial deal? He is an edge backrower

Hopefully he’s got more going for him than just being Stef’s brother.

Junior rep player. So he is talented

Is that the one that pick up a bad injury at r
Eels?

Yes, broken neck and he only has one artery left to his brain, the other one is damaged. I read that somewhere.

Then why does he want to play NRL? Also I don't think Wests tigers would be interested after the experience they had a couple of years ago with a centre /forward who had a bad neck problem.
 
@bradexl said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506067) said:
Mitchell Pearce on NBN news just now endorsing the club to lure Luke Brooks to the knights asap.


I am very suprised to hear this,i would have expected his mind to be concentrated on French Poodles
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506044) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506041) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506040) said:
@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1506038) said:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/sport/ron-massey-cup-wentworthville-magpies-filia-utoikamanu-awarded-rookie-of-the-year/news-story/7ffff56bb4c28ec5c49e274f835a18e3%3famp

Stef”s brother, Filia is back playing. Maybe we can offer a train and trial deal? He is an edge backrower

Hopefully he’s got more going for him than just being Stef’s brother.

Junior rep player. So he is talented

Is that the one that pick up a bad injury at r
Eels?

I'm prerty sure he will spend his life in a wheelchair
 
@lupo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1505972) said:
Refer to previous Australian Rugby League Players Award 2000, Current Collective Bargaining Agreement agreed with the Rugby League Players Association, TPAs etc. The market you refer to is the NRL and participating clubs have collectively signed off to operate within a nominated salary cap. Players know the operating constraints before signing a contract. Even in the land of litigation USA, the NFL & NFLPA have agreed to $208.2M salary cap ceiling for 2022 season.

That's their playing salary. Not whatever endorsements they can get for use of their image or name for being associated with other products. What you're saying would be like telling Michael Jordan that he could not have made money from Nike for them using his name, image and likeness during his playing career. It is restraint of trade stopping players earning money outside of their playing salary
 

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