Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Lachlan Galvin is a good player
but lets not get carried away he was kept out of his rep position by Latu, who imo has the much higher ceiling

galvin reminds me of burton/wighton he will have a good career but it will be in the centers or second row

luai is a three time premiership winner a proven leader amongst young polynesian men who make up the majority of our team

we should be doing everything to get him
Building for 2025 should be the goal. We don’t NEED to give up Galvin and Klemmer to get Luai. We could have Luai, Galvin and Klemmer for 2025.

Don’t think giving up a starting front rower and young gun for 1 year of Luai makes any sense .
 
I actually think we're better with Klemmer and not Luai next year.

Either way, next year is likely to be a development year. So, it will be great to get some consistent 1st grade for Latu and Sullivan there to help accelerate their development. With Klemmer, we keep our forward pack which will give them plenty of space.

If we keep 2024 open for those blokes and then have Luai land in 2025, then we can do some serious damage. By then, Sullivan or Latu may be a center, 13 or 14.

4. Doueigh
6. Latu
7. Luai
14. Sullivan
11/12/13/15. Galvin

We can fit them all in.
Doueihi is NOT in the plans you do realise??

Do you watch games?
 
If we miss Luai and Galvin doesn't live up to the hype, expect this to be brought up on here every time Galvin has a bad game.
Yes indeed it will.

However, what’s more important than the end result is whether the process behind the decision is sound. No person or club can get every decision correct and many more decisions will need to be made other than signing and swapping for Luai. For too long the WT have been laying out plans only to move away from the plans when immediate success doesn’t occur.

We have invested heavily in juniors and see ourselves as a development club but then go and block a pathway for one of Finau, Sullivan and/or Galvin by signing Luai.

The problem is the club has been horrendous at developing young talent into first grade level players so we have gaps in our top 23 or so players and we react with immediate fixes at the expense of our long term plan to develop, promote and play juniors.

If we are really a development club with two of the most highly rated junior halves in Galvin and Finau we shouldn’t even think about signing Luai.

I’m not saying signing Luai is right or wrong, I’d just like what the club says it is to align with what the club does.
 
Lachlan Galvin is a good player
but lets not get carried away he was kept out of his rep position by Latu, who imo has the much higher ceiling

galvin reminds me of burton/wighton he will have a good career but it will be in the centers or second row

luai is a three time premiership winner a proven leader amongst young polynesian men who make up the majority of our team

we should be doing everything to get him
You have pretty good oil.

What’s the plan then with Luai, sullivan, latu and Galvin?

How does that work for the next 4 years?
 
Totally agree losing Galvin would be a disaster he’s the same age as Fainu and a better player, Galvin can organise, kick and run the kid is the total package. Would be the perfect half for Luai but once again we have spent big bucks on Sullivan and Fainu. If this was any other commercial entity the financial management they show is mind blowingly amateur. Paying out mistakes has been accepted as fail safe measure by this board. Now the liklehood of paying out Klemmer and Fulton is about to happen but it’s ok it’s only a couple of million bucks, no problemo.
Come ON! You think we couldn’t play Latu at lock or in the centres as well as Galvin in the centres? You need 17 good players to,win a premiership,, as well as depth as good as the 17 starters.. they all need competition.. saying we already have 1 good potential half so,we have made a massive error in signing another is massively short sighted .. having a group of super talented 18-21 year olds all come playing under a coach that they look up to and respect is a recipe for a potential TEAM of players that play for each other and the Jersey they represent.. if Benji can manage this correctly and they all play to their potential then we can have a big future .. I am starting to be excited. I want to see what happens .. it feels good to have a bit of faith in Benjis vision for the club,, his heart seems to be 110% a Tiger
 
Klemmer and a gamble on a youngster still to make first grade for Luai seems like a decent no brainer swap to me.

Idk what is too difficult about that decision.

We are all complaining about having shit halves .. So bite the bullet and make it fkn happen. Do we want to get the club moving or what ? Do we want to finally have good halves .. , or still just stay in a rut.
If Klemmer is gone who are your run on front rowers? And who are your back up front rowers?
Luai would be lucky to see the ball, and get smashed when he did. A nonsense idea IMO.
 
Galvin to centre or lock
latu to 6
luai to 7
sullivan to 14.
I don’t think there’s anyway we can keep bula, TDS, Api, Galvin, Luai, sullivan and fainu for the next 3 years if we sign Luai for $1.1.

Have to give up at least sullivan and either Galvin or fainu. If you want to keep luai, bulla and a gun Hooker.

And from all reports TDS is like the best thing in our juniors too.

I don’t know how it all stacks

Usually you get to keep 3 gun spine players at best!!!
 
Doueihi is NOT in the plans you do realise??

Do you watch games?
Huh? Yeah, I watched him in our starting side when he went down injured. Did you somehow watch him after that?

He's not in the plans at 6. But how are you summising that means he's gone? Hes likely to be on a small contract for 2025 and we're short of centres.

Do you know something I don't? Maybe with a bit more substance than "do you watch games".
 
Regarding Nofa- I think it's a little unfair with the totally negative narrative on him. He is, at best, an average reader of the opposition when it comes to his defence. His actually tackling technique is ok, but as we note- he's almost always rushing in. That said, is his defence SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE than any other outside back at the club? No.

He is our BEST winger at running the ball back from dummy half on the early tackles. Tupou is a superior athlete, but does not consistently generate metres in those scrappy runs early in a tackle count. Nofa does. Is he as good as he once was- no. But, he's better at it than Tupou & Staines.

He isn't a liability under the high ball. Again, is he great? No. But is he the opposition target? No.

I still believe he is the most natural finisher we have in the club. If there is a try to be scored, and he's 50/50 about getting there, I'd bet on him more often than not to get the try.

His distinct 'lack of speed' was highlighted ONCE all season. There was 1 run where he was in the open & looked to be running in concrete boots (we still scored on that play, but I digress). Other than that, I don't ever remember people saying "Nofa is too slow". He's generally quick enough to get the try when offered.

My biggest critisism of Nofa is when he does the crab run. When he tucks it & runs forward, he's a perfectly fine player. When he runs sideways, he's generally holding the ball in the wrong hand to start with, but it is costly regardless. Thing is, this ISN'T his 70% run. His crab run happens 20-25% of his runs, and it seems to come in bunches. If you get that OUT of his game (and one might suspect some on field direction might help..) then his forward runs are quite effective.

If our ENTIRE outside back group can learn to defend as one unit, and if we can remove even 10% of Nofa's crab runs, I think he is a servicable to good NRL winger. His contract value, which he gets sandbagged for, isn't HIS fault. That said, I believe he gets a cap reduction now, doesn't he?
You really want us to come last every season for the next decade, don't you. I seem to always disagree with 10000% with everything you say, and the way you defend mediocrity.
I'd be willing to pay 300k to get Nof off our books
 
If Klemmer is gone who are your run on front rowers? And who are your back up front rowers?
Luai would be lucky to see the ball, and get smashed when he did. A nonsense idea IMO.
Everyone just needs to chill and remember that these rumours are agenda-driven by external parties (player agents or other clubs).

I must say the Benji - Fulton combo hasn’t yet paid stupid ‘overs’ for players like previous regimes nor released anyone of value to us. Maybe they know what they are doing!

It sounds like they are trying to rectify previous bad contracts i.e Nofa & not bend over to pay overs for the likes of Olam.

Now it’s very possible that Isaac Moses is anti-Tigers atm especially with Fulton more pro Tartak & Black Money, and who does Moses manage but Galvin & Klemmer. Fair chance Mole’s source is right there.
 

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