Tigers and Storm Player Loan Swap

[Roar_Power]

All of a sudden the walls are caving in as we stare at the wooden spoon....

 

[PabloX]


I've been calling him Harry...

 

[Geo]


I've been calling him Harry...

Don't really get the negotiation bit...I was of the understanding both Clubs had already agreed to have it knocked back by the NRL due to non cap compliance on the Storms part...what's too negotiate..

 

[The_Patriot]

I'm confused at the love fest for Momo too. Don't rate him at all. Some even saying that we need him because goal kicking cost us games last year. That may be true, but wasn't he the guy who kicked 1 or 2 out of 5 against the bulldog, including shanking one almost in front to get us to extra time....and crouched to the ground embarrassed and was consoled by the opposition.......and we want to keep him for his kicking....????

Was one of his first games as kicker. Smashed it after that and was great to see it didn't continue to haunt him.

Yep that's the difference, he bounced right back and didn't let it get to him. In that sense, the opposite of Esan Marsters.

Exactly.

Masters was never the same after that.

What makes Momirovski a good player is his mentality. He has it in spades.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

 

[Furious1]

I'm confused at the love fest for Momo too. Don't rate him at all. Some even saying that we need him because goal kicking cost us games last year. That may be true, but wasn't he the guy who kicked 1 or 2 out of 5 against the bulldog, including shanking one almost in front to get us to extra time....and crouched to the ground embarrassed and was consoled by the opposition.......and we want to keep him for his kicking....????

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but i think that was the same game Marsters refused to step up after Mbye lasted a minute before being injured. Marsters was too scared of failure so it fell into the hands of 15 game rookie. I can't compare their attacking abilities because i'm too lazy, but from a mental toughness perspective the club is way, way in front with Momo. That"s one reason for his popularity, the other being he seems to have an uncanny knack of finding the tryline.

 

[jadtiger]

MBye is a jack of all trades master of none.That is not a criticism but imo will never be great in any position but adequate in many

 

[JD Tiger]

How did the Storm suddenly get this under the salary cap, if it's going to move forward? Everything was already in place last time, except Storm's account-keeping.

They would have been only a little bit over, something like $15k. Another few weeks have passed, they would only have to pay him for less time now, hence less money.

 

[TrueTiger]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I think CB people get to invoved directly in a players reputation and how good he is and his worth...big name players that get paid huge dollars to play for a club must live up to the rep or get critised or moved on...Momo is a good player,he isn't on huge money and may not get to the Ingliss or Mitchel standard of NRL players,however he is always putting in when given a challenge,wether playing in the centres or wing or goal kicking...
He proved his worth to our team last year and did his very best when on the field,some may say his worth doesn't equate to NRL standard,but don't forget it is a team effort and everyone has to do their bit he certainly did his...I honestly think that Bellamy rates Momo and can see what he has to offer, otherwise I don't think he would swap a top line up and coming talent for him....

 

[Tim Sheens]

I'm confused at the love fest for Momo too. Don't rate him at all. Some even saying that we need him because goal kicking cost us games last year. That may be true, but wasn't he the guy who kicked 1 or 2 out of 5 against the bulldog, including shanking one almost in front to get us to extra time....and crouched to the ground embarrassed and was consoled by the opposition.......and we want to keep him for his kicking....????

I blame the coaching staff and senior players for THAT miss, as if any of them had been awake, it was plain as day that he was not ready to take that kick and even just a few words from any of them would very likely have had Paul much more relaxed and taking his time. Yet what played out was a nervous Nellie left alone in rushing his attempt.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I think CB people get to invoved directly in a players reputation and how good he is and his worth...big name players that get paid huge dollars to play for a club must live up to the rep or get critised or moved on...Momo is a good player,he isn't on huge money and may not get to the Ingliss or Mitchel standard of NRL players,however he is always putting in when given a challenge,wether playing in the centres or wing or goal kicking...
He proved his worth to our team last year and did his very best when on the field,some may say his worth doesn't equate to NRL standard,but don't forget it is a team effort and everyone has to do their bit he certainly did his...I honestly think that Bellamy rates Momo and can see what he has to offer, otherwise I don't think he would swap a top line up and coming talent for him....

I'm not against the loan. We have a few options at centre and not many at hooker, much less good options. Momo is far from a garbage footballer though which is what I challenge.

Goal kicking is a worry but goal kicking is a non issue if you can't score tries because you don't have a decent hooker running things.

 

[ATown]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I’d prefer he didn’t kill puppies.

 

[TrueTiger]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I think CB people get to invoved directly in a players reputation and how good he is and his worth...big name players that get paid huge dollars to play for a club must live up to the rep or get critised or moved on...Momo is a good player,he isn't on huge money and may not get to the Ingliss or Mitchel standard of NRL players,however he is always putting in when given a challenge,wether playing in the centres or wing or goal kicking...
He proved his worth to our team last year and did his very best when on the field,some may say his worth doesn't equate to NRL standard,but don't forget it is a team effort and everyone has to do their bit he certainly did his...I honestly think that Bellamy rates Momo and can see what he has to offer, otherwise I don't think he would swap a top line up and coming talent for him....

I'm not against the loan. We have a few options at centre and not many at hooker, much less good options. Momo is far from a garbage footballer though which is what I challenge.

Goal kicking is a worry but goal kicking is a non issue if you can't score tries because you don't have a decent hooker running things.

Totally agree with your comments CB,I was more alluding to the people who don't rate Momo or cant see why he is liked as a footballer...he does have a fair bit to offer within the team,there have been a lot of players over the years who have been rated by many and haven't produced to the expectations...Momo is just a very good footballer without a huge reputation to fulfil...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I’d prefer he didn’t kill puppies.

So do I. It was poetic licence.

 

[Russell]

https://youtu.be/ejHB3YQl-ls

We still sleeping on momirovski?

Can find the line. And looks to be one of the only players in our side with any sort of pace (from last years squad anyway).

Dudes beating 4-5 guys to find the line in a majority of those tries. Scores a double in his debut in the finals for the roosters. Missed the sitter of a kick against the dogs but didn't kick stones and lose all confidence like Marsters, which I thought showed just how mentally tough and mature the bloke is. Kids a weapon.

The dude is beating 2-3 guys AT the line to score but in ever try someone has put him in space or beaten his opposite with a pass. Mono doesn’t beat one player in general play in that whole highlight reel. It’s a decent reel for a winger. That’s what he looks like there.


For mine a good first grade centre beats his Man in general play with pace or power. I’ve never seen him do that. He is worth a centre spot in first grade but he is our Shane Elford. Struck match between him and Mbye at centre for mine.

"Doesn't beat one player" - you need to go to spec savers.


Help me out mate, give me a time code on that video where he beats a player in general play (not at the line).

Oh right, you can't score tries unless you beat someone in open play. Beating 3 or 4 players on the line to get the ball down doesn't count.

I don't care if he never beats a player in open play - I'll just take all the tries he scores.

Guess Latrell Mitchell scores a lot of tries that don't count either.


BTW, how are you going with the time code for a moment in that video where he beats his man in open play?

Which one of us is off to specsavers?

You win Mate, I can't be bothered talking to someone who has a stubborn point of view.

You can put Momo in your A grade team if you like - maybe he will beat his opposition centre there. That'll make you happy.

I'm happy to watch him in the NRL scoring tries and playing centre for us.

So now we are both happy. See ya.

 

[Swordy]

Looks like I'm in the minority on Momo. That's ok. I'm very prepared to eat humble pie and apologise publicly on here if I'm wrong,

(And I did giggle at the post comparing his missed shank from infornt against the bulldogs in some who cares round twenty something game, with Jonathon Thurston hitting the upright from the sideline to win a grand final. Very funny.)

 

[earl]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I think CB people get to invoved directly in a players reputation and how good he is and his worth...big name players that get paid huge dollars to play for a club must live up to the rep or get critised or moved on...Momo is a good player,he isn't on huge money and may not get to the Ingliss or Mitchel standard of NRL players,however he is always putting in when given a challenge,wether playing in the centres or wing or goal kicking...
He proved his worth to our team last year and did his very best when on the field,some may say his worth doesn't equate to NRL standard,but don't forget it is a team effort and everyone has to do their bit he certainly did his...I honestly think that Bellamy rates Momo and can see what he has to offer, otherwise I don't think he would swap a top line up and coming talent for him....

I'm not against the loan. We have a few options at centre and not many at hooker, much less good options. Momo is far from a garbage footballer though which is what I challenge.

Goal kicking is a worry but goal kicking is a non issue if you can't score tries because you don't have a decent hooker running things.

I like Momo. I think he is a decent first grade player now and he could improve. I also think Mbye is a better player now in the centres. Jennings could also slot into the centres. I doubt Momo is significantly better than Jennings. You could even play Chee-Kam or Lawrence there.

We have stop gap measures at hooker unless we can somehow get a hooker. I think we'd be crazy not to push for this swap deal. It's also such a critical position.

 

[sheer64]

You could even play Chee-Kam or Lawrence there.

NOOOOOOOO!

 

[TieDye]

I'm confused at the love fest for Momo too. Don't rate him at all. Some even saying that we need him because goal kicking cost us games last year. That may be true, but wasn't he the guy who kicked 1 or 2 out of 5 against the bulldog, including shanking one almost in front to get us to extra time....and crouched to the ground embarrassed and was consoled by the opposition.......and we want to keep him for his kicking....????

I blame the coaching staff and senior players for THAT miss, as if any of them had been awake, it was plain as day that he was not ready to take that kick and even just a few words from any of them would very likely have had Paul much more relaxed and taking his time. Yet what played out was a nervous Nellie left alone in rushing his attempt.

Bit of an overreaction to blame coaching staff, indeed he was a nervous Nellie. Yet only Benji on the field at the time who could’ve taken it.

Hindsight isn’t so wonderful! Besides Momi’s bounce back mentality sets him apart.

 

[Cairnstigers]

I can’t see how anyone can see this swap as a bad move. We get a very classy no9 in a position we are very weak and arguably the most important position on the field. In return we are sending a potentially good centre to play in a very strong system for a year that play a similar structure to us and we probably have 4 players still on our books who can play centre.

I see the only risk is for Momo, and that is a young guy like Talau kills it this year and there is no gap in the top grade come 2021, but he obviously is backing himself to come back a better player. Of course you never know, if the both are successful and happy the deal could be extended


Because some people are genuinely happy to finish 9th. Momirovski is considered one the good guys of the game so fans dont want to get rid of him. Having likeable players is more important than winning.

The exception being those who highlighted how it impacts our goal kicking. Those guys get a pass mark.

Except that's not just it Pat. The guy scored eight tries in 11 games. He can cross the line. I know that's not everything but it's not about him being a good guy, I wouldn't know what he's like away from the game. He could kill puppies in his spare time for all I care if he's going to score 15+ tries a year. Mbye played 17 games last year, 11 at fullback and six at centre and only scored one try. I know who I'd rather.

I’d prefer he didn’t kill puppies.

So do I. It was poetic licence.

Is he allowed to kill Bulldog puppies