Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Tim Sheens]

"We'd love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year and play really, really well."

Am I the only one that cringes when I read that quote from JT ?

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The most spasticated quote ever made by anyone trying to move on a player.
Unfortunately some just don't have much upstairs.

You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have to put it in terms which denigrate disabled people.

Yeah, had not picked that up before Eye.

Poor form FT, particularly as you are in the medical care field and thus unlike some you know exactly what spasticity is, and that it has absolutely no relevance to Taylor's actions

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

"We'd love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year and play really, really well."

Am I the only one that cringes when I read that quote from JT ?

No different to some of Sheens' comments. When Gibbs and Heighington went to Cronulla, Sheens was criticised. He responded with, "they are getting a better deal at Cronulla than if they stayed here."

 

[foreveratiger]

"We'd love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year and play really, really well."

Am I the only one that cringes when I read that quote from JT ?

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The most spasticated quote ever made by anyone trying to move on a player.
Unfortunately some just don't have much upstairs.

You are entitled to your opinion but you don't have to put it in terms which denigrate disabled people.

Yeah, had not picked that up before Eye.

Poor form FT, particularly as you are in the medical care field and thus unlike some you know exactly what spasticity is, and that it has absolutely no relevance to Taylor's actions

Yeah agreed , My apologies .
I just used the word loosely but wasn't meaning to denigrate disabled people despite expressing myself with the wrong terminology i obviously didn't think that through .

I apologize for any offence i may have caused and in future will endeavour to carefully think through my words .

 

[stevetiger]

He's becoming the new Steve Folkes on the forum.

We don't need some made up messiah. I honestly think Taylor deserves more of a chance however at the same time I can't stand hearing how his coaching this year was some of some grand plan or some other palava.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I don't think he has overruled anybody however, is being pragmatic and intelligent.
The approach utilised by Taylor to bully, intimidate and damage personal reputations has diminished the value of the player they were trying to remove in Farah. I think the biggest issue to be spotlighted is the vindictive and calculated methods of Taylor in this sorry episode. He is no leader of men.

I think both parties know Farah is going and would rather it look like it was Farah's call. The club saves face and Farah looks like he's in control.

I don't think it's about anyone saving face. It's saying, ( without threatening anyone ), That farah can look around if he wants to. When asked is Farah wanted to stay would he be playing for WTs ? the answer was "yeah)!!!!
Can't be more clear than that.
Not sure, Gallagher , how you get that Farah is going anywhere at all.
It's purely how it should have been handled in the first place , without stupid threats.
It certainly looks like there won't be lawyers involved, which is Good .
And I doubt there will be any wriggling out of what was said in the release.
It would be crazy for any CEO to come in and do anything different to what he has said quite plainly .
Looks like he's not stuffing around. Which may just eventually make players from other clubs have a bit more respect for this club.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

There was never going to be legal action.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Not sure where people are getting the idea that Taylor's position is untenable based off of what Pascoe said. He basically just reiterated the clubs position that Farah is free to leave if he finds another club.

Exactly. He is stepping in to force a deal…...cause that is what CEO's do.

Nup

The WT's walked up to that line in the sand a month ago and just took a step backwards yesterday

Remind me who runs this club again , the players and some rogue fans threatening not to renew memberships ??

Looks like the new CEO is. And he has started pretty well.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

…“I hope everyone rests assured that the decision to let Robbie negotiate with other clubs, if that’s what he chooses to do, was not made lightly.”.........

I agree with 'formerguest', that says to me; There were good reasons Wests Tigers took the drastic step of releasing the team Captain.

I don't read anything there that says Taylor's position is untenable.

Re: Pascoe making a call that reverses Taylor and the board's decision. I thought I read that he would not be making a call about anything until he had familiarised himself with various situations. If so, it's unlikely he'd make a call like that so soon, especially with Farah still away.

It wouldn't take long forb an experienced administrator to familiarise himselrf with this situation.
A 😛layer has contract

B:club cannot force him out without paying him out in full

C: it's players right to go elsewhere or stay here.

D: Coach should first know what he CAN do , before Opening his mouth

If anyone thinks that he came in here cold a couple of days ago. Theyre a bit nieve.
He's had plenty of time to get across a lot of this before even getting here .
It doesn't need Farah to be here at all .

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I am sure after 3 days he now knows who runs the club … Just hope he is not late for Farahs pickup at the airport, I am sure he will have plenty of bags to carry.

I hate these comments. Where is the proof that Robbie runs the club ? Robbie was signed to a longer contract than what he should have been. Its not Robbie's fault although I'm sure he and his manager pushed for it.

Robbie isn't going to get paid elsewhere what we are paying him simply because we are paying overs. I'm worried who else we are paying overs too.

In some circles it's called sour grapes.

 

[cqtiger]

The decision to ask Farah to leave has been a public relations disaster for the Tigers.

Its the way it has been handled that is poor. We need to move Robbie on but we could have played him until the end of his contract and we may have to anyway.

It was always going to be a hard sell. I don't think the WT's were ever thinking about winning a PR war when trying to force out a club legend. Their sole objective was to get the "elephant" out of the dressing room to be blunt.

Personally, I was disappointed about the decision but I sort of understand why it was made. Anyway, I really don't think the decision will be reversed and I am sure that another club will pick RF up at a basement price. The dust will settle eventually.

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[foreveratiger]

I am sure after 3 days he now knows who runs the club … Just hope he is not late for Farahs pickup at the airport, I am sure he will have plenty of bags to carry.

I hate these comments. Where is the proof that Robbie runs the club ? Robbie was signed to a longer contract than what he should have been. Its not Robbie's fault although I'm sure he and his manager pushed for it.

Robbie isn't going to get paid elsewhere what we are paying him simply because we are paying overs. I'm worried who else we are paying overs too.

It's a perception people have that Farah has kicked out every Coach we have had , hence why people think he runs the Club.
I agree he was signed for 2 years to long and our lesson should have been learned from when we signed Lawrence on his current 5 year deal .

Certainly Farah is well and truly past his best but like you say Steve hardly his fault for having the best Agent in the game Ayoub and getting that deal for his Client….love him or hate him but i've been told from a former player that he used to be Managed by Ayoub and his Opinion of Ayoub is very high in terms of getting the best deal for his Client .
Some will question how he's handled certain things......but at the end of the Day his Sole focus is on his Client and getting the best deal for his Players and that is what his paid to do .

It says more about our Club on how we have handled certain situations in the past couple of years with a number of Contracts never honoured .

I think Pascoe realizes how important it is in demonstrating that Contracts will be honoured from this point forward , so players that might be chased by our Club in the next couple of years can feel that Contracts will be honoured if not players won't bother unless we pay them massive overs.

 

[fibrodreaming]

I am sure after 3 days he now knows who runs the club … Just hope he is not late for Farahs pickup at the airport, I am sure he will have plenty of bags to carry.

I hate these comments. Where is the proof that Robbie runs the club ? Robbie was signed to a longer contract than what he should have been. Its not Robbie's fault although I'm sure he and his manager pushed for it.

Robbie isn't going to get paid elsewhere what we are paying him simply because we are paying overs. I'm worried who else we are paying overs too.

It's a perception people have that Farah has kicked out every Coach we have had , hence why people think he runs the Club.
I agree he was signed for 2 years to long and our lesson should have been learned from when we signed Lawrence on his current 5 year deal .

Certainly Farah is well and truly past his best but like you say Steve hardly his fault for having the best Agent in the game Ayoub and getting that deal for his Client….love him or hate him but i've been told from a former player that he used to be Managed by Ayoub and his Opinion of Ayoub is very high in terms of getting the best deal for his Client .
Some will question how he's handled certain things......but at the end of the Day his Sole focus is on his Client and getting the best deal for his Players and that is what his paid to do .

It says more about our Club on how we have handled certain situations in the past couple of years with a number of Contracts never honoured .

Which contracts have not been honored in the past FT? I don't recall the club being taken to court by a player before.
I think Pascoe realizes how important it is in demonstrating that Contracts will be honoured from this point forward , so players that might be chased by our Club in the next couple of years can feel that Contracts will be honoured if not players won't bother unless we pay them massive overs.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Taken from Article by Steven Zemek 24/9/2015

Pascoe's comments are at odds with the stance of coach Jason Taylor who when asked in August if there was any chance that Farah could remain, said it was best if he moved on.
Farah was told he was free to negotiate with rival clubs and that he if he wished to remain, he would spend the 2016 season in reserve grade.
"My feelings are that we need a fresh start and Robbie needs a fresh start," Taylor said at the time.
"We'd love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year and play really, really well."
The decision to ask Farah to leave has been a public relations disaster for the Tigers.

That article right there proves every single thing that is wrong with how the media have taken this.

The ONLY direct quote that people can pin on JT is " My feelings are that we need a fresh start & Robbie needs a fresh start- we'd love nothing more than to see Robbie play for an opposition club next year & play really, really well"

However- the article pins "he would spend the 2016 season in reserve grade" & that his stance & Pascoe's are at odds- when clearly Pascoe really only restates the clubs stance on it all.

The only people/person that is making 'reserve grade' comments, or 'disrepectful', 'shame' & 'embarrass' type claims are Robbie & Ayoub.

I think by now, given that that is one of the big sticking points with a lot of people in this disaster. . If the threat hadn't been ,made, I'm sure that there would have been a firm denial from Taylor or the board. They didn't have to make a massive story out of it, just a simple denial that Farah had not been threatened, would have taken a lot of the heat of the club, …........but nothing,
I don't think there's any doubt that it was said.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

There was never going to be legal action.

Probably wasn't, but thanks for confirming that for me.

 

[innsaneink]

…“I hope everyone rests assured that the decision to let Robbie negotiate with other clubs, if that’s what he chooses to do, was not made lightly.”.........

I agree with 'formerguest', that says to me; There were good reasons Wests Tigers took the drastic step of releasing the team Captain.

I don't read anything there that says Taylor's position is untenable.

Re: Pascoe making a call that reverses Taylor and the board's decision. I thought I read that he would not be making a call about anything until he had familiarised himself with various situations. If so, it's unlikely he'd make a call like that so soon, especially with Farah still away.

It wouldn't take long forb an experienced administrator to familiarise himselrf with this situation.
A 😛layer has contract

B:club cannot force him out without paying him out in full

C: it's players right to go elsewhere or stay here.

D: Coach should first know what he CAN do , before Opening his mouth

<big>If anyone thinks that he came in here cold a couple of days ago. Theyre a bit nieve.
He's had plenty of time to get across a lot of this before even getting here .</big>
It doesn't need Farah to be here at all .

How would he get across all this before even getting here?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

…“I hope everyone rests assured that the decision to let Robbie negotiate with other clubs, if that’s what he chooses to do, was not made lightly.”.........

I agree with 'formerguest', that says to me; There were good reasons Wests Tigers took the drastic step of releasing the team Captain.

I don't read anything there that says Taylor's position is untenable.

Re: Pascoe making a call that reverses Taylor and the board's decision. I thought I read that he would not be making a call about anything until he had familiarised himself with various situations. If so, it's unlikely he'd make a call like that so soon, especially with Farah still away.

It wouldn't take long forb an experienced administrator to familiarise himselrf with this situation.
A 😛layer has contract

B:club cannot force him out without paying him out in full

C: it's players right to go elsewhere or stay here.

D: Coach should first know what he CAN do , before Opening his mouth

<big>If anyone thinks that he came in here cold a couple of days ago. Theyre a bit nieve.
He's had plenty of time to get across a lot of this before even getting here .</big>
It doesn't need Farah to be here at all .

How would he get across all this before even getting here?

Actually Ink, these days we have phones, he had plenty of time to talk to the board, and may have had preliminary talks to anyone involved if he wanted to.
I'm sure the club could have had a spare copy ofbFarahs contract somewhere .
There was not too much to go through
I'm sure a 10 minute chat with a lawyer could have confirmrd all that was in his release .
It's not a big deal.
It was made a big deal by the way it was handled.

 

[innsaneink]

Well yeah that possible… It's also speculation and guessing.
I'm glad you didn't say "he got across it thru the media ".. Like i thought you were going to.

I did read he started on Tuesday... I'll go with that

 

[GNR4LIFE]

There was never going to be legal action.

Probably wasn't, but thanks for confirming that for me.

Probably wasn't? You and Bobo were convinced a few weeks back that it was a formality. Better late than never in realizing it though,

 

[gallagher]

I don't think he has overruled anybody however, is being pragmatic and intelligent.
The approach utilised by Taylor to bully, intimidate and damage personal reputations has diminished the value of the player they were trying to remove in Farah. I think the biggest issue to be spotlighted is the vindictive and calculated methods of Taylor in this sorry episode. He is no leader of men.

I think both parties know Farah is going and would rather it look like it was Farah's call. The club saves face and Farah looks like he's in control.

I don't think it's about anyone saving face. It's saying, ( without threatening anyone ), That farah can look around if he wants to. When asked is Farah wanted to stay would he be playing for WTs ? the answer was "yeah)!!!!
Can't be more clear than that.
Not sure, Gallagher , how you get that Farah is going anywhere at all.
It's purely how it should have been handled in the first place , without stupid threats.
It certainly looks like there won't be lawyers involved, which is Good .
And I doubt there will be any wriggling out of what was said in the release.
It would be crazy for any CEO to come in and do anything different to what he has said quite plainly .
Looks like he's not stuffing around. Which may just eventually make players from other clubs have a bit more respect for this club.

If Farah doesn't go, who do you think will be picking the team each week? Not Pascoe! That's where i get Farah leaving from.

 

[happy_tiger]

…“I hope everyone rests assured that the decision to let Robbie negotiate with other clubs, if that’s what he chooses to do, was not made lightly.”.........

I agree with 'formerguest', that says to me; There were good reasons Wests Tigers took the drastic step of releasing the team Captain.

I don't read anything there that says Taylor's position is untenable.

Re: Pascoe making a call that reverses Taylor and the board's decision. I thought I read that he would not be making a call about anything until he had familiarised himself with various situations. If so, it's unlikely he'd make a call like that so soon, especially with Farah still away.

It wouldn't take long forb an experienced administrator to familiarise himselrf with this situation.
A 😛layer has contract

B:club cannot force him out without paying him out in full

C: it's players right to go elsewhere or stay here.

D: Coach should first know what he CAN do , before Opening his mouth

If anyone thinks that he came in here cold a couple of days ago. Theyre a bit nieve.
He's had plenty of time to get across a lot of this before even getting here .
It doesn't need Farah to be here at all .

You keep taking pot shots at Taylor

Yes he must have had a major say , but the board had to rubber stamp it

If this call was such a major thing and such a conspiracy why didn't the board wait for the new CEO to start

As far as the entire board and the coach was concerned this was black and white and accepted across the board

I'm sorry until they changed their minds yesterday , they were doing the right thing by this club , we need to stop putting one person ahead of all others

Other teams can do it , why can't we just accept it

I'm sick of hearing all the things about how we all owe Robbie our first borns because of what he has done for the club in the past

Performance wise , since 2012 , what has Robbie done for the WT's to get the mega bucks he gets ??

His last game in 2011 he lost us a premiership , he owes us big time for that alone