Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Snake]

All this sympathy towards Farah being shown the door has me wondering how much of this is his fault?

1) The decision to allow Farah to find another club was made 7 weeks ago. The club and Ayoub agreed to keep it in-house and not advise Farah to allow Ayoub to find another club for him.

2) All was going to plan until last Tuesday ,,,,
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3) Farah was told by the club last Tuesday

4) Someone leaked it to the press that Farah was going to allowed to be shopped around… so the club got on the front foot and released a statement BEFORE the press news went to air.

5) The biggest issue to come out of the news last Tuesday was the fact Farah was told he would be playing reserve grade next year and not be training with the FT squad....this was made public by Farah in his statement.
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The proverbial hit the fan last Tuesday...how much was Robbie behind leaking this to the press?

Why did Farah chose to make public the conversation that was had in-house?..it was WRONG what he did.

Notice how many times JT was pushed to reveal in-house discussions yet he refused!

Bet your bottom dollar it was Farah who leaked to the press the fact he is being allowed to find another club..

Over the last few years one of the biggest issues in the WT has been information being leaked to the press by an insider....could it be that Farah can't shut his mouth when it comes to keeping what's said in-house stays in-house?

Thanks for everything you have done over the last 12 years Robbie....but I cant wait for the club to usher in the new player era in 2016...

Great post and probable not far from the truth.. He had to be pulled into line at an origin press conference and told to act like an adult.so maybe the penny will finally drop soon as to what the club has been putting up with. IfFarah wants to pursue this further the club should pull the files out about his behaviour last season and the deliberate actions to derail the teams season some supporters have a short memory.

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Who knows the truth,it will probaly come out eventually after Robbie leaves.
I don't believe this 7 week(it was originally a Month) time line thing,it came from Ayoub to a Journo,not JT or the Board..
The Board didn't ask Robbie to leave until the meeting with Maguire leaked out,the person or people that leaked that Info. also tipped off the Tele.
People are comparing this to the Lewis saga,that was done clinically,this is a mess with more twists & turns to go i expect.

 

[lathami]

All this sympathy towards Farah being shown the door has me wondering how much of this is his fault?

1) The decision to allow Farah to find another club was made 7 weeks ago. The club and Ayoub agreed to keep it in-house and not advise Farah to allow Ayoub to find another club for him.

2) All was going to plan until last Tuesday ,,,,
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3) Farah was told by the club last Tuesday

4) Someone leaked it to the press that Farah was going to allowed to be shopped around… so the club got on the front foot and released a statement BEFORE the press news went to air.

5) The biggest issue to come out of the news last Tuesday was the fact Farah was told he would be playing reserve grade next year and not be training with the FT squad....this was made public by Farah in his statement.
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The proverbial hit the fan last Tuesday...how much was Robbie behind leaking this to the press?

Why did Farah chose to make public the conversation that was had in-house?..it was WRONG what he did.

Notice how many times JT was pushed to reveal in-house discussions yet he refused!

Bet your bottom dollar it was Farah who leaked to the press the fact he is being allowed to find another club..

Over the last few years one of the biggest issues in the WT has been information being leaked to the press by an insider....could it be that Farah can't shut his mouth when it comes to keeping what's said in-house stays in-house?

Thanks for everything you have done over the last 12 years Robbie....but I cant wait for the club to usher in the new player era in 2016...

Great post and probable not far from the truth.. He had to be pulled into line at an origin press conference and told to act like an adult.so maybe the penny will finally drop soon as to what the club has been putting up with. IfFarah wants to pursue this further the club should pull the files out about his behaviour last season and the deliberate actions to derail the teams season some supporters have a short memory.

What a suprise the haters club here again..
Maybe they should open the files on how inept potter was last year, and that not one single club had picked up this great coach!!!!
Plus not one other player at the WT said anything to support potter, that says a lot.
In your world here say is all that's needed to convict someone.
If Cameron smith was at our club during the great era of potter, he too would have had his arse out the door. The problem with farah is he is smart guy, and would easily see potter us a fool. Pity u guys aren't as smart.
Again where is potter now? If he is the great coach u think he is where us he now assistant gigs are open everywhere, even reddy got a gig.
What I am saying haters is practise what u preach.
I love how u haters were all bagging Taylor for how crap we were playing. And now u support him because it supports your agenda. What a suprise!!!!
Where were u on Sunday yelling support of Taylor at the game? Cause I couldn't here you….

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

I love how u haters were all bagging Taylor for how crap we were playing. And now u support him because it supports your agenda. What a suprise!!!!

This!

Im not even sure im talking to the same people anymore, theyve changed their opinions so quickly these guys. He can coach now, funny that.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Im not even sure im talking to the same people anymore, theyve changed their opinions so quickly these guys. He can coach now, funny that.

Speaking of changing opinions, check out Rothfield's opinion just 12 months ago:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/robbie-farahs-negative-influence-ruining-wests-tigers-writes-phil-rothfield/story-fni3fh9n-1227003489658
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**Robbie Farah’s negative influence ruining Wests Tigers
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July 27, 2014 7:32pm
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Phil RothfieldThe Daily Telegraph**

WESTS Tigers captain Robbie Farah can be a difficult and grim character.

It’s one of the reasons NSW didn’t appoint a vice-captain for State of Origin this year.

No one wanted him in the role. Laurie Daley is too nice a person to say it publicly, but it’s true.

And it’s a contributing factor to why there is so much drama at the Wests Tigers right now over coach Mick Potter.

Farah carries enormous influence at the club, particularly with the younger players.

There is no secret in the fact he does not rate his coach.
Gorden Tallis revealed on Triple M over the weekend that Farah had told him that to his face. He repeated it on air to Farah’s manager Sam Ayoub on Sunday afternoon.

At the after-match press conference, Farah denied saying it but Tallis is sticking to his guns and insisted the comments were made.

You only had to listen to the Tigers’ press conference after last week’s win over the Bulldogs to understand the friction that so obviously exists.

Farah tells reporters he has been at Potter for weeks, nudging him to pick Mitchell Moses in the side.

By doing so he’s either trying to take credit himself for the youngster’s outstanding performances or telling fans the coach was too slow to recognise and acknowledge the kid’s potential.

It was said with a total lack of respect for his coach.

Farah has a bit of history in this area.

He spat the dummy and fell out with his previous coach Tim Sheens when he failed to make the Test team on a Kangaroo tour of England. It didn’t matter that Cameron Smith is a future ­Immortal and far superior player.

**Sadly, no one at the Wests ­Tigers has the courage to stand up to him.**

In this area, chief executive Grant Mayer has a lot to answer for. He was the one who hired the old and unemployed coach Brian Smith to conduct the ­review that almost brought Potter down.

He is the one who hasn’t had the courage to pull Farah into line like stronger leaders would.

He is also the man who had similar issues when he was chief executive at the Sea Eagles before the board got rid of him.

On Sunday the Tigers played as one might expect they would.

Down 22-0 at half-time, they rallied in the second half but were never going to win.

Still, they remain just two points away from the top four.

The madness and stupidity of the whole situation is that Potter has proven himself an excellent coach in a short space of time.

He was the one who had the nerve to bench Benji Marshall last year when his poor form warranted it but other coaches might have not had the courage to do it.

He is the one who has carefully and cautiously introduced Moses, Luke Brooks and Curtis Sironen to first grade and has overseen the development of Aaron Woods into the best young front-rower in the game.

This doesn’t just happen. With so many outstanding youngsters, no club is better placed for the future than the Wests Tigers.

**It’s just that they need some stability and a strong management that is prepared to back their coach.**

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

Im not even sure im talking to the same people anymore, theyve changed their opinions so quickly these guys. He can coach now, funny that.

Speaking of changing opinions, check out Rothfield's opinion just 12 months ago:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/robbie-farahs-negative-influence-ruining-wests-tigers-writes-phil-rothfield/story-fni3fh9n-1227003489658
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Haha this doesnt surprise me one bit, suits his agenda to make the focus of the paper about the Wests Tigers. Gallen has a story the Sharks are trying to cover up dont they?

Only saving grace for Rothfield is that it took him all of 12 months to change his opinion, others here its more like 12 minutes.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Thanks for posting that Gary, I hadn't seen that one.

 

[Wimpy's Well]

With Robbie winning the PR battle & no clubs in NRL interested in Robbie, each side has to give a bit to fix this mess.

Robbie should be given next season and he should then opt out of 2017 & take an offer in the SL, he could easily get a 400k pound deal a yr as a marquee. Hes earnt the right to finish his Tigers career in this fashion not getting rid of him in the last couple of rounds

 

[Muffstar]

I thought I read in one of the many articles written over the past week that's what he said he may do. Hand over the captaincy next year, play in 2016 and seek an opportunity to play SL from 2017.

But who knows how this will pan out.

 

[BornBlack_amp_Gold]

I think it's a really good compromise myself. I too heard/read Robbie was prepared to do just as suggested in the OP. If Robbie relinquishes captaincy I think that goes a long way to eliminating Taylor's fear of Robbie undermining him also.
We don't save much money getting a rival nrl club to take up only part of his contract and cherrington isn't ready for 80 minutes of nrl yet.
I think it can work for all concerned.

 

[Tigerdon]

That situation would suit the WTs playing group best. Cherrington is good in attack but not ready as an 80 minute player yet. As 2016 progresses Cherrington will play more minutes.
It's was interesting that JT put them both on at the same time..however we did have a 20plus lead at that stage.

 

[jirskyr]

Thanks for posting that Gary, I hadn't seen that one.

Yeah nice one Gary, shows what a peanut Rothfield is, changes his opinion on the turn of a heel.

 

[jirskyr]

The proverbial hit the fan last Tuesday…how much was Robbie behind leaking this to the press?

Why did Farah chose to make public the conversation that was had in-house?..it was WRONG what he did.

Notice how many times JT was pushed to reveal in-house discussions yet he refused!

Bet your bottom dollar it was Farah who leaked to the press the fact he is being allowed to find another club..

I think we can all agree that it is not in Tigers' best interests to reveal internal communications on this issue, so such information must almost certainly come from the aggrieved camp.

Put it another way - what do you do if you find out your company plans to end your employment? You either go quietly, or you raise a sh!tstorm.

As I said before, if KG was in this situation, how long would the papers run with it for? Farah's minders know his media stock, so facing no recourse with the Tigers or other clubs, they have begun a media campagin to try and publicly pressure the club. And I'm not totally upset by that, he has a right to fight for his career.

Some of the anti-Farah comments in the papers are probably small bits of club feedback, informally, to balance out the arguments. WT are not going to officially slander Farah, it serves no real purpose and invites litigation. Club could air all the dirty laundry and shut Farah right down, or fans might turn on the club even more.

No, Tigers are just going to weather this storm for as long as it lasts, make public statements only if they feel the need to correct misinformation or address some further critical issue.

Personally I think WT has over-commented on this topic already, they should have avoided all pressers and just released one statement, until there was a resolution.

Be assured that if Farah had already lined up an acceptable new club on the quiet, it would not have played out like this.

 

[jirskyr]

What does winning the PR battle even mean?

We have one more game, the papers will drop this story quickly enough when the finals are on and Tigers are in post-season.

We might not have a resolution by the end of the year, but the story will run out of puff soon enough.

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

I thought that that was originally discussed between Ayoub and the club. It was JT that called last weeks meeting and told Farah that if he stayed he would be playing reserve grade. Very unprofessional and childish of JT. Bad for him Farah and the club.

Its a great compromise for all parties. If JT cant handle Farah or any other player then his clearly not good enough to be a first grade coach.

 

[NT_Tiger]

It appears he likes sticking it to WT at any opportunity using whatever information is available. That just says something about his character, it doesn't mean the information was bad. It certainly had a strong ring of truth to it at the time.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Thanks for posting that Gary, I hadn't seen that one.

Yeah nice one Gary, shows what a peanut Rothfield is, changes his opinion on the turn of a heel.

It appears he likes sticking it to WT at any opportunity using whatever information is available. That just says something about his character, it doesn't mean the information was bad. It certainly had a strong ring of truth to it at the time.

 

[NT_Tiger]

This compromise won't work, full stop. As much as I'd personally like it to, it won't.
I say this because, as noted above, this was the compromise originally discussed in private behind closed doors. Somehow it came out into the public eye because somebody did not like it as a compromise. If they didn't like it then in private, they ain't suddenly gonna like it in public.

Who stood to gain from this? The club? Taylor? Not likely. It brings them under increased public scrutiny. Farah?

 

[tig_prmz]

What does winning the PR battle even mean?

We have one more game, the papers will drop this story quickly enough when the finals are on and Tigers are in post-season.

We might not have a resolution by the end of the year, but the story will run out of puff soon enough.

the ramifications are massive.

the fans think robbie is hard done by from the media, the ex tigers players, robbie's well connected sources- everyone's taken robbie's side.

the club doesn't need negative publicity like this. what it does is puts even more pressure (as if this isn't enought) on our already young and inexperienced spine. we lose a high number of supporters which we cant afford and lose corporate sponsorship. short term pain for long term gain? POSSIBLY.

i agree with OP- i think a bit of compromise from both parties will go a long way to helping both.

 

[Snake]

What does winning the PR battle even mean?

We have one more game, the papers will drop this story quickly enough when the finals are on and Tigers are in post-season.

We might not have a resolution by the end of the year, but the story will run out of puff soon enough.

the ramifications are massive.

the fans think robbie is hard done by from the media, the ex tigers players, robbie's well connected sources- everyone's taken robbie's side.

the club doesn't need negative publicity like this. what it does is puts even more pressure (as if this isn't enought) on our already young and inexperienced spine. we lose a high number of supporters which we cant afford and lose corporate sponsorship. short term pain for long term gain? POSSIBLY.

i agree with OP- i think a bit of compromise from both parties will go a long way to helping both.

I can assure all that a hug part of the supporter base actually supports the club on this issue ..and the well connected sources please this is why no other club wants anything to do with him and it is not the money! There will be no compromise the line has been drawn and that is the way it should be , It will be Farah or the coach and I believe if there is a compromise Taylor will walk That will make you all happy Farah Rids 2 coaches in 2 yrs then it can really hit the fan!