Tim Simona - Deregistered

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“There’s been a screenshot of his phone placing the bets. The NRL’s got the screenshot.”

What's this mean?
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I'm guessing he shared screenshots of his bets to friends.
Probably conspirators.
 
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“There’s been a screenshot of his phone placing the bets. The NRL’s got the screenshot.”

What's this mean?

I'm guessing he shared screenshots of his bets to friends.
Probably conspirators.
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How can they tell the screenshot is from HIS phone?
 
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#SaveTimSim

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Ban him for half the season like they did with Pearce and fine him whatever you want. He will get the idea and never do it again. Don't ban him for life.

#SaveTimSim
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Do you think any of his team mates would want to play with him after this? He sabotaged them, unforgivable in a team sport. Kyle Lovett is something you can forgive because he was only hurting himself. Simona conspired to screw over his team mates. Absolute dog act
 
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#SaveTimSim

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Ban him for half the season like they did with Pearce and fine him whatever you want. He will get the idea and never do it again. Don't ban him for life.

#SaveTimSim
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I WAS a fan of Tim but once you bet against your team and your team mates out you go for life.
How do we know that he didn't cost the WT a spot in the final 8.
Bye bye Tim nice knowing you.
 
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“There’s been a screenshot of his phone placing the bets. The NRL’s got the screenshot.”

What's this mean?

I'm guessing he shared screenshots of his bets to friends.
Probably conspirators.

How can they tell the screenshot is from HIS phone?
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Probably because whoever he has sent it to has shown the NRL the screenshot within the conversation between him and Simona.
 
@ said:
#SaveTimSim

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Ban him for half the season like they did with Pearce and fine him whatever you want. He will get the idea and never do it again. Don't ban him for life.

#SaveTimSim
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Personally I wouldn't want someone who had been sabotaging our games playing for us.
 
wow a life ban is big and as many have said, others have got away with worse.

I guess a line will be drawn in the sand, if Simona is guilty.

In reading about whats gone on, this is no longer about how much he bet, but what he may have done to impact the outcome of the wager. thats fraud and dishonest and for that reason i dont have a problem with a life ban if the NRL are consistent. Sad but his mistake if true.

Sure the NRL have to protect the integrity of the game and i get that, but the double standards are what have me confused. So if you take drugs you are not impacting the integrity of the game or is it that the problem of drugs is wide spread in the NRL and banning players may lead to a host of big name sackings.

What message is the NRL sending, being involved with drugs isn't as bad as cheating.
 
If true this is very disappointing. However for all those feeling sorry for Tim & wanting to give him a 2nd chance, would you have him playing at the Tigers ever again? I wouldn't.

Lets just hope he has a support base to get him through life after footy if all of this is true.
 
No, he couldn't play at the Wests Tigers again but if he is allowed to play elsewhere, WT should be compensated for having one of their players playing against them after serving a suspension. This has been a sore point in the game for many years and players like Ferguson and Dugan come to mind with Canberra on the rough end of those particular pineapples.
 
Lifetime ban seems very excessive. I would be concerned for Tim's well being if the NRL gave him the flick for life
 
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wow a life ban is big and as many have said, others have got away with worse.

I guess a line will be drawn in the sand, if Simona is guilty.

In reading about whats gone on, this is no longer about how much he bet, but what he may have done to impact the outcome of the wager. thats fraud and dishonest and for that reason i dont have a problem with a life ban if the NRL are consistent. Sad but his mistake if true.

Sure the NRL have to protect the integrity of the game and i get that, but the double standards are what have me confused. So if you take drugs you are not impacting the integrity of the game or is it that the problem of drugs is wide spread in the NRL and banning players may lead to a host of big name sackings.

What message is the NRL sending, being involved with drugs isn't as bad as cheating.
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I have to say that players who, during a match, are under the influence of drugs can definitely effect the outcome of the match. Unfortunately the NRL is turning a blind eye to these players are getting away with habitually using these drugs.
 
What would help the match fixing and betting problems in the NRL is if they get new sponsors. Half the bloody adds are gambling related. A quick fix before the game on how much the Tigers are at or back Teddy to be first try scorer. This is just shooting yourself in the foot NRL.

Lets ban players for life for betting to set an example but have a major sponsor a betting company that comes on in every single ad break.

This just baffles me :crazy
 
If it's all true then a life ban is fitting. I don't care if it's Tedesco or whoever if a player is caught fixing matches they should be banned for life. It makes me feel sick that someone at our club would do that
 
Just watching NRL360 …what should come on during the break...

TAB Add...Back any player to score the first TRY in round 1-4 and your player doesn't score we give you your money back in bonus bets up to a value of $50..I'll be there 'til the stars don't shine 'Til the heavens burst and the words don't rhyme ... We'll find a place where the sun still shines. And I will love you, baby, always...At TAB we love a BET..

Mud sticks ..even if untrue ..his career is finished..every miss tackle every dropped ball every kick on the 1st in the clear will be questioned...
 
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Going to get life sentence no matter what he says according to http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/paul-kent-nrl-360-exclusive-tim-simona-to-get-life-nrl-bans-bets/news-story/4a010f0a8e05a7f6c26949613a9b7b59
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Dam! Crazy stuff if true.

Full Article…

Paul Kent NRL 360 exclusive: Tim Simona to get life, NRL bans bets
PAUL KENT NRL 360 EXCLUSIVE, The Daily Telegraph

LATER this week Tim Simona will walk in to League Central where he is expected to fall on his very sharp sword.

It will do him no good.

Simona currently stands accused of betting against himself, backing his opponent to be first tryscorer, the greatest act of treachery that can be committed in team sport.

At 25, he will be banned for life, his career over.

At such a young age, it is understandable to sympathise in a small way for Simona and his poor choices.

What led a player to such steps? Why didn’t he fully grasp the repercussions of his actions?

And then you look at his teammates.

The Tigers missed the playoffs by a single competition point last season.

This at a club where coach Jason Taylor has to be a success or else his NRL coaching days are over.

Where the young careers of his playmakers would have benefited enormously from a finals appearance.

Simona was affecting all their careers and, understandably, Tigers players are angry.

He was also tinkering with something far greater.

Inch by inch, the NRL is taking steps to ensure the integrity of the game remains above question.

Without integrity and a belief in the result, the game is nothing.

So last month NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg sent an email to clubs, quietly and without fuss, warning them of their obligations surrounding gambling.

It followed the investigation into Simona that began last year and escalated in September when he was interviewed at league headquarters and denied the allegations against him.

Now, six months later and with the evidence against him overwhelming, it is expected Simona will confess to a gambling addiction and plead for mercy.

Greenberg will not listen. He cannot.

Allegations last year of match-fixing led to the subsequent formation of Strike Force Nuralda to investigate the claims, prompting Greenberg to state with considerable energy that anybody caught match fixing would be banned for life.

He cannot back down.

The work did not finish there.

Greenberg took it a step further and told bookies over the summer the code was banning them from offering various exotic bets.

Gone are most runs head to head, most run metres head to head, over/under run metres, over/under tackles, player versus player points, 40/20 kicks, first try scoring options and team to trail in the match.

Greenberg knew all could be easily manipulated without suspicion and were a drama the game could do without.

Significantly, they also banned betting on under-20s games, where player-ins and -outs had enormous impact on the result. An early tip was akin to printing money.

Naturally the betting agencies fought back.

Their reason is simple.

Bookies learned long ago that the big money in punting was in the small money.

It sounds backward.

Where a first look suggests that the big punters are where bookies will make the most money, given the sheer size of their bets, the actual secret is volume.

All those five and 10 dollar bets add up to so much more.

So novelty bets were created to attract the punters. A lazy five here, another five there.

Problem was, the bets are so easily manipulated it created great headaches for the code.

Who could really tell whether a player was down on runs because he was off his game, or shut down by the opposition, or running dead?

So the bets are gone.

The opportunity for smoke and mirrors surrounding team selections has also been reduced.

Teams for round one were announced last night using the new system where a 21-man squad must be named before it gets pruned to 19 a whole 24 hours before kick-off.

Any club hoping to add a player not named must now get special exemption from the NRL.

Final line-ups do not have to be named until an hour before kick-off.

It is a step the right way for a game coming to terms with the sad reality of what is possible
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Does this mean that 1st try scorer is no longer an option at the TAB? Spewing if that is the case.
 
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Going to get life sentence no matter what he says according to http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/paul-kent-nrl-360-exclusive-tim-simona-to-get-life-nrl-bans-bets/news-story/4a010f0a8e05a7f6c26949613a9b7b59
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Dam! Crazy stuff if true.

Full Article…

Paul Kent NRL 360 exclusive: Tim Simona to get life, NRL bans bets
PAUL KENT NRL 360 EXCLUSIVE, The Daily Telegraph

LATER this week Tim Simona will walk in to League Central where he is expected to fall on his very sharp sword.

It will do him no good.

Simona currently stands accused of betting against himself, backing his opponent to be first tryscorer, the greatest act of treachery that can be committed in team sport.

At 25, he will be banned for life, his career over.

At such a young age, it is understandable to sympathise in a small way for Simona and his poor choices.

What led a player to such steps? Why didn’t he fully grasp the repercussions of his actions?

And then you look at his teammates.

The Tigers missed the playoffs by a single competition point last season.

This at a club where coach Jason Taylor has to be a success or else his NRL coaching days are over.

Where the young careers of his playmakers would have benefited enormously from a finals appearance.

Simona was affecting all their careers and, understandably, Tigers players are angry.

He was also tinkering with something far greater.

Inch by inch, the NRL is taking steps to ensure the integrity of the game remains above question.

Without integrity and a belief in the result, the game is nothing.

So last month NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg sent an email to clubs, quietly and without fuss, warning them of their obligations surrounding gambling.

It followed the investigation into Simona that began last year and escalated in September when he was interviewed at league headquarters and denied the allegations against him.

Now, six months later and with the evidence against him overwhelming, it is expected Simona will confess to a gambling addiction and plead for mercy.

Greenberg will not listen. He cannot.

Allegations last year of match-fixing led to the subsequent formation of Strike Force Nuralda to investigate the claims, prompting Greenberg to state with considerable energy that anybody caught match fixing would be banned for life.

He cannot back down.

The work did not finish there.

Greenberg took it a step further and told bookies over the summer the code was banning them from offering various exotic bets.

Gone are most runs head to head, most run metres head to head, over/under run metres, over/under tackles, player versus player points, 40/20 kicks, first try scoring options and team to trail in the match.

Greenberg knew all could be easily manipulated without suspicion and were a drama the game could do without.

Significantly, they also banned betting on under-20s games, where player-ins and -outs had enormous impact on the result. An early tip was akin to printing money.

Naturally the betting agencies fought back.

Their reason is simple.

Bookies learned long ago that the big money in punting was in the small money.

It sounds backward.

Where a first look suggests that the big punters are where bookies will make the most money, given the sheer size of their bets, the actual secret is volume.

All those five and 10 dollar bets add up to so much more.

So novelty bets were created to attract the punters. A lazy five here, another five there.

Problem was, the bets are so easily manipulated it created great headaches for the code.

Who could really tell whether a player was down on runs because he was off his game, or shut down by the opposition, or running dead?

So the bets are gone.

The opportunity for smoke and mirrors surrounding team selections has also been reduced.

Teams for round one were announced last night using the new system where a 21-man squad must be named before it gets pruned to 19 a whole 24 hours before kick-off.

Any club hoping to add a player not named must now get special exemption from the NRL.

Final line-ups do not have to be named until an hour before kick-off.

It is a step the right way for a game coming to terms with the sad reality of what is possible

Does this mean that 1st try scorer is no longer an option at the TAB? Spewing if that is the case.
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Just had a feeling that this was the case when they said he couldn't train with the club

Guessing a few team mates might be thinking about putting one on his chin
 
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